noonereal Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 hours ago, DarterBlue said: he market will give up yesterday's gains the market fell yesterday,again or am I just not keeping up? Question What was the opening for the year, what was the Q1 close and where is it as of close yesterday? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said: Disagree here. Well-trained, licensed, experienced experts are needed. You don't know hsfbfan. I admitted I dont have the knowledge to even attack the market. So i am being very honest in that regard. BTW 51% approval rating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: You should do the work yourself. Giving someone the responsibility for the most importing thing in your financial life is not smart. It generally ends badly. This posts proves you are honest. People "in the game never say no to investing others peoples money. Another reason to play a fair game, like craps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Disagree here. Well-trained, licensed, experienced experts are needed. Do you also believe in Santa Claus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: Whoever you bank with has local, retail wealth management folks to assist you at your branch. Good to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, noonereal said: the market fell yesterday,again or am I just not keeping up? Question What was the opening for the year, what was the Q1 close and where is it as of close yesterday? Thanks The market gained at least a percent on the worst index yesterday. So, yes, you were not keeping up. It's hard to with all the wide swings. Can't give you the precise stats right now, as I am on the road and don't have access to my spreadsheets. However, as of yesterday's close, the only indexes up on the year were the two NASDAQ indices. They were up about .5% while the DOW and S&P were down around 2%. January was a very good month. However, February and March were bad months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Good to know save your money and buy real estate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: Disagree here. Well-trained, licensed, experienced experts are needed. You don't know hsfbfan. It does not take rocket science to be successful in the markets. If you have average intelligence you can do fine. If you are a trader like me, you need to manage your risk carefully at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, noonereal said: save your money and buy real estate Ill just save my money lol. No reason to get into risky things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: I'll go with you if you like. let me think about it. its hard to just throw money into the wind not knowing if youll see a return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, noonereal said: This posts proves you are honest. People "in the game never say no to investing others peoples money. Another reason to play a fair game, like craps. I try to be as honest as I can be. What I do is not for most people. In fact, the few times I have managed money for friends and family it has affected me negatively. I did not lose their money. But my performance suffered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, HSFBfan said: Ill just save my money lol. No reason to get into risky things. That is why I said real estate. Not speculative real estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: let me think about it. its hard to just throw money into the wind not knowing if youll see a return. You need to take him up on this offer, honest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, noonereal said: That is why I said real estate. Not speculative real estate. Example? Like are you buying land and hoping someone wants to buy it from you to build a house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, noonereal said: You need to take him up on this offer, honest Ill sit down with @GardenStateBaller and discuss in person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Example? Like are you buying land and hoping someone wants to buy it from you to build a house? I'd suggest buying multi family dwellings. If land, buy something that can be rented. The rent covers much of the mortgage and .after it's paid the rent is income forever. I get 10% on the value of my land anually. Good luck getting that kind of return in a bank or with any kind of consistency in the market. Also, in the meantime, my land has doubled in value since purchased. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, noonereal said: I'd suggest buying multi family dwellings. If land, buy something that can be rented. The rent covers much of the mortgage and .after it's paid the rent is income forever. I get 10% on the value of my land anally. Good luck getting that kind of return in a bank or with any kind of consistency in the market. Also, in the meantime, my land has doubled in value since purchased. So you take it up the ass huh LOL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, noonereal said: People "in the game never say no to investing others peoples money. Another reason to play a fair game, like craps. The financial markets are not unfair. You just have to know what your advantages and disadvantages are and play to your advantages. I don't day trade because my transactions costs (commissions and spreads) are higher than the big institutions. I also don't get my data in the millisecond that some institutions do. However, on the plus side, my small positions don't move markets, so if I play my hand right, I can get out much more easily and less costly when markets are moving quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, noonereal said: Question What was the opening for the year, what was the Q1 close and where is it as of close yesterday? Thanks The DOW closed 2017 on 12/29/17 at 24,719. It opened up about 150 points higher on 1/2/18. First quarter close was 24,295. Yesterday's close was 24,035. It is still down on the year as I type this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, DarterBlue said: The DOW closed 2017 on 12/29/17 at 24,719. It opened up about 150 points higher on 1/2/18. First quarter close was 24,295. Yesterday's close was 24,035. It is still down on the year as I type this. So its down about 700 points for the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: So its down about 700 points for the year? Yeah. Just about. Not a whole lot, but it's been a wild ride. Not the smooth sailing we had in 2017 and 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: Yeah. Just about. Not a whole lot, but it's been a wild ride. Not the smooth sailing we had in 2017 and 2016. When your trying to mix up the status quo things are going to go for a wild ride. Will eventually settle out. were back around that 24k level again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: When your trying to mix up the status quo things are going to go for a wild ride. Will eventually settle out. were back around that 24k level again. It's a long way to today's close. Support is actually in the 23,500 level or thereabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: It's a long way to today's close. Support is actually in the 23,500 level or thereabouts. Yep another 2 hours. It could do anything Bitcoin down over 13k since it topped out at 20k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 @DarterBlue 600 point swing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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