HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 47 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Most of you guys have been doubting this kid since his days at Allen. Hell DJ sd he wd be lucky to play baseball at the next level. The kid is lightening in a bottle. He throws better then Vick ever did and is faster. The way the NFL is going this kid will be an all pro It's ok to doubt any player until they show something. But yes with the softness of the nfl today he might do ok Btw put Vick in today nfl and his numbers would be off the chart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 54 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Most of you guys have been doubting this kid since his days at Allen. Hell DJ sd he wd be lucky to play baseball at the next level. The kid is lightening in a bottle. He throws better then Vick ever did and is faster. The way the NFL is going this kid will be an all pro DJ was just a loud mouth and is now working with cartoons That shows his level of credibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: DJ was just a loud mouth and is now working with cartoons That shows his level of credibility Actually hes not anymore. Hes doing something in atlanta now. He left Tennessee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 9 hours ago, HSFBfan said: U think Gary is a bust? yes....or at least will not play to his full potential as watched him for two years vs SJR...took way too many plays off ...got dominated a lot....he will do enough etc...but would want a beast with a full time motor..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, SJR89 said: yes....or at least will not play to his full potential as watched him for two years vs SJR...took way too many plays off ...got dominated a lot....he will do enough etc...but would want a beast with a full time motor..... Did you watch him at Michigan? I cant say I watched him enough there. I did see he only had 9.5 sacks in 3 years. That to me is a red flag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, thc6795 said: Most of you guys have been doubting this kid since his days at Allen. Hell DJ sd he wd be lucky to play baseball at the next level. The kid is lightening in a bottle. He throws better then Vick ever did and is faster. The way the NFL is going this kid will be an all pro to be clear...its not that I do not like him..he is an exciting player...but as a Giants fan...do not want to gamble on him.....thats all....anyway Arizona is drafting him at #1......baseball money seems small if he gets drafted at #1............ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, SJR89 said: to be clear...its not that I do not like him..he is an exciting player...but as a Giants fan...do not want to gamble on him.....thats all....anyway Arizona is drafting him at #1......baseball money seems small if he gets drafted at #1............ Did you see what Harper got today? 13 years 330 million coming off a year he hit .249 What happens if Murray is out of the league before his rookie deal is up or on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, thc6795 said: Most of you guys have been doubting this kid since his days at Allen. Hell DJ sd he wd be lucky to play baseball at the next level. The kid is lightening in a bottle. He throws better then Vick ever did and is faster. The way the NFL is going this kid will be an all pro I hope he makes it and does well history is against him with lineman being 6' 5" and running as fast as him the last successful short QB was Doug Flutie drafted by the Bills in 1998. His career stats were 86-68 TD/INT ratio They now defend a lot better today than then but he is a great athlete- good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, HSFBfan said: Did you watch him at Michigan? I cant say I watched him enough there. I did see he only had 9.5 sacks in 3 years. That to me is a red flag watched him every snap vs Notre Dame....not impressive.....he is a late first round pick or early second IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, hardhit1 said: I hope he makes it and does well history is against him with lineman being 6' 5" and running as fast as him the last successful short QB was Doug Flutie drafted by the Bills in 1998. His career stats were 86-68 TD/INT ratio They now defend a lot better today than then but he is a great athlete- good luck! In his defense Oklahoma has one of the biggest OL in the game and Murray did fine looking over them Drew brees is pretty successful Russell wilson is a super bowl champ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, SJR89 said: watched him every snap vs Notre Dame....not impressive.....he is a late first round pick or early second IMO Interesting. The nfl mock drafts that I have seen have him going top 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Did you see what Harper got today? 13 years 330 million coming off a year he hit .249 What happens if Murray is out of the league before his rookie deal is up or on the bench first off there is no guarantee he makes the pro's....case closed. so that 3 million could be it...he goes top 5 ...he gets what 5-7 million plus endorsements...and he is playing day one..especially if they trade rosen............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, HSFBfan said: Interesting. The nfl mock drafts that I have seen have him going top 15 i will rely on my eye test.....as a giants fan,,,,no way....I have want the jets to do well...would not touch him with a ten foot pool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, SJR89 said: first off there is no guarantee he makes the pro's....case closed. so that 3 million could be it...he goes top 5 ...he gets what 5-7 million plus endorsements...and he is playing day one..especially if they trade rosen............. I dont remember the rookie wage scale in the nfl but itll be more than that 3 million he got from the athletics as the #8 or 9 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, SJR89 said: i will rely on my eye test.....as a giants fan,,,,no way....I have want the jets to do well...would not touch him with a ten foot pool The jets imo should go get Allen the kid from kentucky or trade out. They really should be all in on antonio brown. Pay AB all he wants. Jets need a WR badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: In his defense Oklahoma has one of the biggest OL in the game and Murray did fine looking over them Drew brees is pretty successful Russell wilson is a super bowl champ yep agree but 5'10" Murray is they are 6' but your going to say they are not? I hear these things but maybe you know something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Actually hes not anymore. Hes doing something in atlanta now. He left Tennessee. Hmm news to me lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, hardhit1 said: yep agree but 5'10" Murray is they are 6' but your going to say they are not? I hear these things but maybe you know something? Murray was measured at 5'10. Hes a tiny bit shorter than Mayfield who was 6 ft. Wilson is 5'10. Now Wilson hand is like 1 inch bigger than murray if I remember correctly. Oklahoma OL are huge. Go to their website and look at their roster. You dont get much if any bigger. Now Murray if he think is going to scramble alot at 207 pounds hes out of his mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 NFL 2019 rookie wages ...Murray goes #1 he gets 6.4 million...........debate over eam Total Rookie Pool # 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Cardinals $13,132,438 1 $6,446,636 $1,461,429 $783,308 $698,747 $583,346 $547,808 $523,335 49ers $10,107,303 2 $6,151,813 $1,448,027 $780,959 $694,228 $582,568 $546,289 $523,245 Jets $9,252,412 3 $5,964,197 $1,434,626 $780,723 $693,582 $581,907 $545,462 $522,671 Raiders $15,104,033 4 $5,749,782 $1,407,825 $778,195 $692,361 $581,516 $544,438 $522,449 Buccaneers $9,284,639 5 $5,374,548 $1,397,104 $775,431 $690,538 $579,816 $543,343 $521,705 Giants $10,738,650 6 $4,704,495 $1,372,982 $770,168 $689,484 $577,793 $542,464 $521,127 Jaguars $8,767,262 7 $4,168,449 $1,348,859 Forfeited $688,770 $577,191 $541,825 $520,715 Lions $8,985,099 8 $3,632,407 $1,327,418 $764,049 $687,771 $576,576 $541,508 $520,598 Bills $9,762,498 9 $3,605,604 $1,305,976 $760,637 $686,664 $576,373 $540,912 $520,518 Broncos $9,082,697 10 $3,458,191 $1,281,854 $758,946 $685,315 $576,167 $540,300 $520,343 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 I'll give you some insight into the 2020 draft tua from alabama is gonna go in the first round and he may not play a full season of football at alabama. He came in his freshman year to win the NC Last year he never played in the 4th quarter and was taken out of the NC. I think he only played 1 full game. Game against Oklahoma in the cfp Next year is supposed to be the best alabama team under saban. How much is tua gonna play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, SJR89 said: NFL 2019 rookie wages ...Murray goes #1 he gets 6.4 million...........debate over eam Total Rookie Pool # 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Cardinals $13,132,438 1 $6,446,636 $1,461,429 $783,308 $698,747 $583,346 $547,808 $523,335 49ers $10,107,303 2 $6,151,813 $1,448,027 $780,959 $694,228 $582,568 $546,289 $523,245 Jets $9,252,412 3 $5,964,197 $1,434,626 $780,723 $693,582 $581,907 $545,462 $522,671 Raiders $15,104,033 4 $5,749,782 $1,407,825 $778,195 $692,361 $581,516 $544,438 $522,449 Buccaneers $9,284,639 5 $5,374,548 $1,397,104 $775,431 $690,538 $579,816 $543,343 $521,705 Giants $10,738,650 6 $4,704,495 $1,372,982 $770,168 $689,484 $577,793 $542,464 $521,127 Jaguars $8,767,262 7 $4,168,449 $1,348,859 Forfeited $688,770 $577,191 $541,825 $520,715 Lions $8,985,099 8 $3,632,407 $1,327,418 $764,049 $687,771 $576,576 $541,508 $520,598 Bills $9,762,498 9 $3,605,604 $1,305,976 $760,637 $686,664 $576,373 $540,912 $520,518 Broncos $9,082,697 10 $3,458,191 $1,281,854 $758,946 $685,315 $576,167 $540,300 $520,343 And if hes on the bench after a couple of year because he cant cut it? He wont have the opportunity to sign that 13 year 330 million dollar offer lol It was a gamble either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Murray was measured at 5'10. Hes a tiny bit shorter than Mayfield who was 6 ft. Wilson is 5'10. Now Wilson hand is like 1 inch bigger than murray if I remember correctly. Oklahoma OL are huge. Go to their website and look at their roster. You dont get much if any bigger. Now Murray if he think is going to scramble alot at 207 pounds hes out of his mind I thought Wilson was 6' but thats why I rely on your expertise on this. The O line being tall means shit when the D bust the line at 6'5" + and are in his face- no expertise needed here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, hardhit1 said: I thought Wilson was 6' but thats why I rely on your expertise on this. The O line being tall means shit when the D bust the line at 6'5" + and are in his face- no expertise needed here No wilson is 5'10. Mayfield is 6. I agree with the 2nd point. That's why im saying if your the giants I wouldnt touch him. I dont think hes 1st round talent. But someone is going to reach for him. When Murray played the speed of alabama he completed 51% of his passes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: I'll give you some insight into the 2020 draft tua from alabama is gonna go in the first round and he may not play a full season of football at alabama. He came in his freshman year to win the NC Last year he never played in the 4th quarter and was taken out of the NC. I think he only played 1 full game. Game against Oklahoma in the cfp Next year is supposed to be the best alabama team under saban. How much is tua gonna play Do you think that tua declaring may get Beck there with the selling point of being a day 1 starter similar to Trevor Lawrence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: No wilson is 5'10. Mayfield is 6. I agree with the 2nd point. That's why im saying if your the giants I wouldnt touch him. I dont think hes 1st round talent. But someone is going to reach for him. When Murray played the speed of alabama he completed 51% of his passes. I'm in Cleveland I know Mayfield is 6' 1/2" 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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