HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Has decided not to throw at the combine. Do u agree with this decision? Does this put some caution in a GM mind about drafting him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJR89 Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 would not draft him or Gary.....period. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, SJR89 said: would not draft him or Gary.....period. U think Gary is a bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 no need to throw an easy situations like the combine. They have plenty of tape on him just killing it in collegein a real live action. And before anyone says how easy passing is in that conference he did a great job against Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: no need to throw an easy situations like the combine. They have plenty of tape on him just killing it in collegein a real live action. And before anyone says how easy passing is in that conference he did a great job against Alabama He was 51% against alabama. And yeah it's the big 12 not exactly the best defenses in the country. Hell probably go #1 due to the "success" of Baker mayfield this past year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 I've heard some say he played against shitty defenses at Oklahoma, but they need to look at the starting QBs in the NFL and where they played collegiately. I believe the SEC has 2 or 3 starting QBs. Based on strength of opponents you'd think that would be a much bigger number. But, it's not based on strength of opponents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: I've heard some say he played against shitty defenses at Oklahoma, but they need to look at the starting QBs in the NFL and where they played collegiately. I believe the SEC has 2 or 3 starting QBs. Based on strength of opponents you'd think that would be a much bigger number. But, it's not based on strength of opponents. The sec for a long time was a ground and pound game. You didn't need elite QBs to win. All you had to do was not screw it up with a bad INT or fumble. Now that the sec is opening up there should be more QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 hours ago, HSFBfan said: Has decided not to throw at the combine. Do u agree with this decision? Does this put some caution in a GM mind about drafting him It maybe would if it hadn't been done so many times over the years by many big prospects As long as he shines in pro day and individual workouts he won't have any issues being drafted day 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: The sec for a long time was a ground and pound game. You didn't need elite QBs to win. All you had to do was not screw it up with a bad INT or fumble. Now that the sec is opening up there should be more QBs. It's been proven time and again it really doesn't matter where they play in college The cream rises to the top, these other schools just try to bait these prospects for their college services You have same ability to be a stud heading into draft season playing at Troy as you do at bama Only difference is bama has more of those "studs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 After all the best player perhaps ever went to Mississippi Valley State (I believe a D2 program) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Cardinals- rosen UCLA pac 12 Falcons- ryan BC acc Ravens Jackson Louisville acc Bears- the kid from unc acc Steelers Roethlisberger Miami oh mac Brown Mayfield big 12 Bengals dalton TCU big 12 Lions Stafford Georgia sec Packers Rodgers cal pac 12 Vikings cousins msu big 10 New york giants manning sec Jets darnold USC pac 12 Eagles wentz north Dakota big sky I believe Texans watson clemson acc Cowboys Prescott msu sec Oakland carr Fresno state mountain west 49ers garrapolo eastern Illinois Rams goff cal pac 12 Seahawks wilson nc state acc Bucs winston florida state acc Dolphins Tannehill tamu sec Bills Allen Wyoming mountain west Saints brees purdue Titans Mariota Oregon pac 12 Colts luck Stanford pac 12 Pat's Brady Michigan big 10 Redskins Smith utah pac 12 today I believe they were mwc when he played there Panthers newton Auburn sec Jaguars Bortles Ucf american I did these off the top of my head if I forgot any let me know Sec has 5 starting QBs in the league @maxchoboian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: After all the best player perhaps ever went to Mississippi Valley State (I believe a D2 program) Jerry rice. D1AA or what is known today as FCS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: It's been proven time and again it really doesn't matter where they play in college The cream rises to the top, these other schools just try to bait these prospects for their college services You have same ability to be a stud heading into draft season playing at Troy as you do at bama Only difference is bama has more of those "studs" More exposure at alabama than at troy. No disrespect to the sun belt as I watch it weekly on tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Jerry rice. D1AA or what is known today as FCS Thanks for correction but still it does show you don't have to be at Alabama or Ohio State to be a elite player so where they go to school in college means nothing to pro scouts Now you have a better chance of being scouted at these schools because they have many prospects every year that teams are looking at but you get where I'm going with this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 @Columbiafan we can go thru some small school guys Phil sims morehead state Tony Romo eastern Illinois Jimmy g eastern Illinois Big ben Miami oh Kahlil mack buffalo There is a HOF big name from jackson state I always forget his name Carson wentz north Dakota Jerry rice as you stated MVSU List goes on and on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Columbiafan said: Thanks for correction but still it does show you don't have to be at Alabama or Ohio State to be a elite player so where they go to school in college means nothing to pro scouts Now you have a better chance of being scouted at these schools because they have many prospects every year that teams are looking at but you get where I'm going with this Yes your right but as u stated if your at the bigger school you have the exposure as scouts are going there to watch multiple guys. Now with tv though manh many athletes are on tv. I heard a story of a Gm who found one of his players due to flipping thru espn one day and coming across his game. Tv exposure is huge todsy for the smaller conferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: @Columbiafan we can go thru some small school guys Phil sims morehead state Tony Romo eastern Illinois Jimmy g eastern Illinois Big ben Miami oh Kahlil mack buffalo There is a HOF big name from jackson state I always forget his name Carson wentz north Dakota Jerry rice as you stated MVSU List goes on and on Walter Payton I believe went there Also had Steve McNair at alcorn State Deacon Jones went to a small black college (what it was called at the time) but forgot the name of it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Yes your right but as u stated if your at the bigger school you have the exposure as scouts are going there to watch multiple guys. Now with tv though manh many athletes are on tv. I heard a story of a Gm who found one of his players due to flipping thru espn one day and coming across his game. Tv exposure is huge todsy for the smaller conferences. That's where these coaches at major universities use that as a sell point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Walter Payton I believe went there Also had Steve McNair at alcorn State Deacon Jones went to a small black college (what it was called at the time) but forgot the name of it Holy snap I just realized Deacon Jones went to same frekin college as Jerry Rice I never realized it was the same school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Walter Payton I believe went there Also had Steve McNair at alcorn State Deacon Jones went to a small black college (what it was called at the time) but forgot the name of it Yes Walter Payton. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, Columbiafan said: Holy snap I just realized Deacon Jones went to same frekin college as Jerry Rice I never realized it was the same school I didn't know that. If you go through the history of the hbcu schools there are some very big names and HOFs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 One of best defenders of all time and best wr of all time both came from same FCS school (although around 2 decades apart) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Walter Payton I believe went there Also had Steve McNair at alcorn State Deacon Jones went to a small black college (what it was called at the time) but forgot the name of it FAMU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted February 28, 2019 Report Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, DevilDog said: FAMU Famu is definitely among one of the best smaller school football programs in the country They may have fallen off lately but they were very good for a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 1, 2019 Report Share Posted March 1, 2019 Most of you guys have been doubting this kid since his days at Allen. Hell DJ sd he wd be lucky to play baseball at the next level. The kid is lightening in a bottle. He throws better then Vick ever did and is faster. The way the NFL is going this kid will be an all pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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