Week 4 Tiers

[Sammyswordsman]

 

 

Tier 1 -  Mater Dei, St. John Bosco,

Tier 2 -   Duncanville, STA, Katy, St. Louis (Hi), SFA, IMG

Tier 3  -  DLS,  DeMatha,   OLGC, Bishop Gorman, North Shore, Lakeland, Grayson, Lowndes

Tier 4 -   Cen10, SJR,  SJP,  SJC, Marietta, Gonzaga, Cathedral Catholic, Chandler, Saguaro,  McEachern

Tier 5 -   Colerain, , Longview, Pickering Central, Dutch Fork, Mallard Creek, Corner Canyon (UT), Columbia, Mission Viejo,  Colquitt,  Allen,  Mentor, St. Xavier, St. Eds,  Northwestern, Narbonne,  Miami Central, North Gwinett, Valdosta,  Lone Peak

Tier 6  - Guyer, Servite, Alemeny Westlake (Tx), JSerra, Alemeny, Hoover, Grace Bretheren, Milton, Trinity*, Buford, Guyer, Hoban, Iggy, Bergen Catholic, Folsom, Centennial AZ, Lincoln Way East.  East St. Louis, John Curtis

 

*Requests to add your team will be honored.  But must be Tier 6 or above to be placed on a Tier.

Below is an explanation of the Methodolgy used to place the teams on various Tiers.  The Tier concept recognizes that W/L records are a function of quality of opponent, and as such, RELEVANCY of opponent MUST be factored in.  The Tiers recognizes that in some cases, a 10-0 team (ranked in Top 100 by some outlets) could get blown off the field by a 5-5 (unranked) team that played a tougher schedule.  This is why the Tiers was created.

 

*Not attempting to rank every team, only the ones we discuss on this site.

*Teams are ranked appropriately for that week in the season.  Teams can improve and regress comparatively.

* The Tiers are fluid and subject to extreme fluctuations early in the year, leveling out as the year progresses.

*Tier placements consider a teams entire body of work, however are weighted heaviest on recent games and game weights decrease in significance in reverse order.  In other words, early road OOS losses to relevant teams can be overcome as the season progresses.

*Teams placed on the same Tier can compete with other same Tier teams and possibly win 2+ of 10. 

*Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers.  Could vary from a TD to 3 scores depending on the styles of teams playing.  This does not necessarily mean that there is a 30 point difference between Tier 1 and Tier 3, only that the chances of a Tier 3 team beating a Tier 1 team are exponentially less than the chances of a Tier 2 Team beating a Tier 1 team.

*The Tiers will ultimately be made up of (16) teams per Tier that would form competitive playoff brackets.

*Texas teams generally have not played enough OOS games to gauge properly #crapshoot.  There must be a daisy chain OOS connection for a reference point.  Teams with no OOS daisy chain connection may not be placed on a Tier.  (Texas exempt)

*Tiers are based on exhaustive research, Multiple games watched, and good gut feelings.

*This is a crowd sourced rating. All input will be considered and adjustments will be made as appropriate

[SeaShells21]

What happens when Bosco and the Dei play against each other?

[imaGoodBoyNow]

23 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

 

 

Tier 1 -  Mater Dei, St. John Bosco,

Tier 2 -   Duncanville, STA, Katy, St. Louis (Hi), SFA, IMG

Tier 3  -  DLS,  DeMatha,   OLGC, Bishop Gorman, North Shore, Lakeland, Grayson, Lowndes

Tier 4 -   Cen10, SJR,  SJP,  SJC, Marietta, Gonzaga, Cathedral Catholic, Chandler, Saguaro,  McEachern

Tier 5 -   Colerain, , Longview, Pickering Central, Dutch Fork, Mallard Creek, Corner Canyon (UT), Columbia, Mission Viejo, Allen, Colquitt,  Allen,  Mentor, St. Xavier, St. Eds,  Northwestern, Narbonne,  Miami Central, North Gwinett, Valdosta,  Lone Peak

Tier 6  - Guyer, Servite, Alemeny Westlake (Tx), JSerra, Alemeny, Hoover, Grace Bretheren, Milton, Trinity*, Buford, Guyer, Hoban, Iggy, Bergen Catholic, Folsom, Centennial AZ, Lincoln Way East.  East St. Louis

 

*Requests to add your team will be honored.  But must be Tier 6 or above to be placed on a Tier.

Below is an explanation of the Methodolgy used to place the teams on various Tiers.  The Tier concept recognizes that W/L records are a function of quality of opponent, and as such, RELEVANCY of opponent MUST be factored in.  The Tiers recognizes that in some cases, a 10-0 team (ranked in Top 100 by some outlets) could get blown off the field by a 5-5 (unranked) team that played a tougher schedule.  This is why the Tiers was created.

 

*Not attempting to rank every team, only the ones we discuss on this site.

*Teams are ranked appropriately for that week in the season.  Teams can improve and regress comparatively.

* The Tiers are fluid and subject to extreme fluctuations early in the year, leveling out as the year progresses.

*Tier placements consider a teams entire body of work, however are weighted heaviest on recent games and game weights decrease in significance in reverse order.  In other words, early road OOS losses to relevant teams can be overcome as the season progresses.

*Teams placed on the same Tier can compete with other same Tier teams and possibly win 2+ of 10. 

*Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers.  Could vary from a TD to 3 scores depending on the styles of teams playing.  This does not necessarily mean that there is a 30 point difference between Tier 1 and Tier 3, only that the chances of a Tier 3 team beating a Tier 1 team are exponentially less than the chances of a Tier 2 Team beating a Tier 1 team.

*The Tiers will ultimately be made up of (16) teams per Tier that would form competitive playoff brackets.

*Texas teams generally have not played enough OOS games to gauge properly #crapshoot.  There must be a daisy chain OOS connection for a reference point.  Teams with no OOS daisy chain connection may not be placed on a Tier.  (Texas exempt)

*Tiers are based on exhaustive research, Multiple games watched, and good gut feelings.

*This is a crowd sourced rating. All input will be considered and adjustments will be made as appropriate

You need to switch SJR with St Louis right now, they were losing to Punahou that’s right Punahou. Magically they won by 5 .... ur agenda is showing 

[Sammyswordsman]

9 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

You need to switch SJR with St Louis right now, they were losing to Punahou that’s right Punahou. Magically they won by 5 .... ur agenda is showing 

SJR hasn't really done anything yet this year.  Their best win is Tier 6 JSerra.  They are one close game from being dropped.

[imaGoodBoyNow]

7 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

SJR hasn't really done anything yet this year.  Their best win is Tier 6 JSerra.  They are one close game from being dropped.

Tiers is a fraud if ur tier 2 team almost lost to Punahou 

[Sammyswordsman]

5 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

Tiers is a fraud if ur tier 2 team almost lost to Punahou 

Punahou is not "bad".  However, we do need to re look at St. Louis.

[imaGoodBoyNow]

Just now, Sammyswordsman said:

Punahou is not "bad".  However, we do need to re look at St. Louis.

How does that one user put it 

 

oh ya

 

 

Punahou is Small market Ball

[Sammyswordsman]

3 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said:

How does that one user put it 

 

oh ya

 

 

Punahou is Small market Ball

Upon further investigation.  Here are some facts.

1. Punahu ret opening kick off for TD

2. St. Louis QB threw for 400 yards,

3.  St. Louis lost 4 fumbles, including 3 in the red zone.

 

Case Dismissed.  Alot of fluke things happened.

Saint Louis' Koali Nishigaya gets free for a big gain in the second half against Punahou. CJ Caraang | SL

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Fri, Sep 20, 2019 @ Aloha Stadium [ 7:30 pm ]

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Punahou

19

Saint Louis

25

Final	1	2	3	4	T
PUN (6-1-0)	7	9	0	3	19
STL (6-0-0)	6	0	13	6	25

Pass: J. de Laura (STL) 405 yd 2 TD

Rush: K. Nishigaya (STL) 69 yd 2 TD

Rec: R. Wilson (STL) 190 yd 2 TD

HALAWA — Halloween may be more than a month away, but the state's top-ranked team got quite the scare Friday night.

Three-time defending Open Division state champion Saint Louis rallied from a 16-6 halftime deficit to squeeze out a 25-19 win over third-ranked Punahou in the nightcap of an Interscholastic League of Honolulu doubleheader at Aloha Stadium.

A crowd of about 2,500 fans saw the Crusaders (6-0 overall, 5-0 league) avoid their first loss since Sept. 29, 2016 and extend their win streak to 32 games. The Buffanblu (6-1, 4-1) suffered their first defeat of the season.

"The second half we made a little bit of an adjustment, but the first half, give credit to them," Saint Louis coach Cal Lee said of the Buffanblu, who recorded all five of their sacks on Crusaders' quarterback Jayden de Laura before halftime.

"They really put the pressure on Jayden — thankfully he can move around, he got away from a lot of the sacks and we were able to survive," said Lee, the winningest prep football coach in state history.

De Laura, a 5-foot-11, 183-pound senior, threw for a season-high 405 yards on 34-of-40 passing without an interception in the win. He tossed touchdown passes of 10 and 46 yards to Michigan-commit Roman Wilson, who finished with 11 receptions for 190 yards. UCLA-bound Matthew Sykes added nine catches for 131 yards.

The Crusaders trailed at halftime for the first time in a long time, but there was no sense of panic in the locker room.

"Same mood as always," Wilson said. "We knew we just had to go out there and we just had to continue to play football, so I wouldn't say it was any different from any other game."

The score was tied at 19 after Punahou's Quinn Maretzki knocked through a 29-yard field goal three plays into the fourth quarter.

Saint Louis took the lead for good on Koali Nishigaya's 4-yard TD run with 3:36 left to play. Nishigaya started at slotback (where he posted seven grabs for 38 yards), but closed out the game at running back.

"I really like him," Lee said of the 5-foot-6, 155-pound Nishigaya. "I mean, I think he can go to the next level, he's that kind of player, but people look at his size and they just think he's too small, but I think he's a helluva of a football player. I mean, he's not a lineman — he's a receiver — he's got good moves, he's got good speed, he's smart. I really like him, I really do."

Despite just seven carries — all of them coming after halftime — the senior finished with a game-high 69 yards rushing. He also scored on a 1-yard run midway through the third quarter that cut the Buffanblu lead to 16-12.

"Koali is the man. He can do everything, it don't matter if he's small, he's the best slot out there. He shows up in big games," de Laura said.

However, the ensuing extra point was wide right and the Crusaders clung to a six-point lead.

Punahou got to the Saint Louis 39-yard line on on its final drive, but quarterback John-Keawe Sagapolutele had to leave the game for one play after he was slow to get up following a third-down sack. Ian Eveleth, who started the season as the team's third-string quarterback, threw a deep ball to Koa Eldredge along the left sideline on fourth-and-12, but his pass was overthrown and the Crusaders took over on downs and ran out the final two-plus minutes.

"I'm very proud of the kids, they played as well as they could," Buffanblu coach Kale Ane said. "Saint Louis is very deserving of all the accolades they've gotten and our kids stepped up to the challenge and challenged them really well."

Vincent Terrell returned the game's opening kickoff for a 94-yard touchdown to put Punahou ahead early.

Saint Louis got on the board with de Laura's 10-yard scoring strike to Wilson on a fourth-and-7 with 4:19 left in the first quarter.

"I saw the safety — the safety switched it off — so I waited for (Wilson) to pass by the safety and then I threw it," de Laura said of the TD pass.

Wilson added of his quarterback: "He did a good job of reading it and I think that's why he's the best in the state."

However, the PAT was blocked and the Buffanblu held on to a 7-6 lead until Sapolutele's 12-yard TD pass to Eldredge with about seven minutes left in the first half stretched it to a 13-6 advantage. The score came five plays after a Crusaders' fumble that was forced by Andrew Canonico and recovered by DJ Utu for Punahou.

"We tell our players all the time, I mean, you gotta play two halves. Our first half wasn't the greatest and you know, we haven't had too many turnovers for the last three or four games and then all of a sudden we got turnovers and you've got to react and respond to all the turnovers that we had and I think we kind of did that," Lee said.

Saint Louis lost four of its five fumbles on the night — all but one of them lost in the red zone.

"I mean, we just learned from our mistakes, we knew we just had to take care of the ball, we knew what we were doing wrong, so it was easy, just take care of the ball," de Laura said.

Maretzki's 30-yard field goal on the final play of the first half gave the Buffanblu a 10-point lead at the intermission.

The Crusaders outscored the Buffanblu 19-3 after halftime, including 13-0 in the third stanza. After Nishigaya's first TD run, the Saint Louis defense forced a three-and-out by Punahou and five plays later, Wilson got beat single coverage along the right sideline and pulled down high-arching 46-yard scoring pass from de Laura to give their team its first lead at 19-16.

"That was the adjustment," de Laura explained. "We were supposed to run an in (route) on that, but the way they were playing it, I told (Wilson) to fake that in and then take it up and he did that and it worked; he was wide open."

De Laura said the changes offensive coordinator Ron Lee implemented at halftime were simple.

"Our adjustment was just get the ball out of my hands, just gotta get it out fast. When I was holding on to the ball, that's when they were getting to me, so we kind of worked short stuff and just chipped away at it," de Laura said.

Sagapolutele, a freshman who was making his fifth career start since a season-ending knee injury to UPenn-commit Hugh Brady, finished with 245 yards on 27-of-43 passing without an interception.

Eldredge posted a game-high 14 catches for 112 yards in the loss.

Jarrin Sato made a game-high 9 1/2 tackles, Alakai Gilman had 8 1/2, Eli Thompson 7 1/2 and Legend Matautia 6 1/2 for the Buffanblu. Gilman also had a pair of fumble recoveries and Matautia recorded one of his team's five sacks.

"I just think our kids played with a lot of heart and courage and they never quit and against a great Saint Louis team that is ranked number eight in the country, it was great to see our kids play so well," Ane said.

Nicholas Herbig made a team-high seven tackles and recovered a fumble that led to the Crusaders' first score. Bredan Aniya had six tackles, Lawaialani Brown posted 5 1/2 stops and Jordan Botelho added five tackles and a sack in the win.

Saint Louis finished with 557 yards of total offense to Punahou's 275.

The Crusaders now turn their attention to next Friday's showdown against No. 2 Mililani, while the Buffanblu will visit fifth-ranked Campbell next Saturday.

 

[ECHS05]

Damn Lowndes crushes a Tier 3 team by 4 scores (couldve been 5 as they ended the game inside the MNW 3) and now they are only Tier 3.

Tier 2 IMG 24, MNW 7

Tier 3 Lowndes 48, MNW 21 (couldve easily been 55-21)

[imaGoodBoyNow]

5 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

Upon further investigation.  Here are some facts.

1. Punahu ret opening kick off for TD

2. St. Louis QB threw for 400 yards,

3.  St. Louis lost 4 fumbles, including 3 in the red zone.

 

Case Dismissed.  Alot of fluke things happened.

Saint Louis' Koali Nishigaya gets free for a big gain in the second half against Punahou. CJ Caraang | SL

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Fri, Sep 20, 2019 @ Aloha Stadium [ 7:30 pm ]

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Punahou

19

Saint Louis

25

Final	1	2	3	4	T
PUN (6-1-0)	7	9	0	3	19
STL (6-0-0)	6	0	13	6	25

Pass: J. de Laura (STL) 405 yd 2 TD

Rush: K. Nishigaya (STL) 69 yd 2 TD

Rec: R. Wilson (STL) 190 yd 2 TD

HALAWA — Halloween may be more than a month away, but the state's top-ranked team got quite the scare Friday night.

Three-time defending Open Division state champion Saint Louis rallied from a 16-6 halftime deficit to squeeze out a 25-19 win over third-ranked Punahou in the nightcap of an Interscholastic League of Honolulu doubleheader at Aloha Stadium.

A crowd of about 2,500 fans saw the Crusaders (6-0 overall, 5-0 league) avoid their first loss since Sept. 29, 2016 and extend their win streak to 32 games. The Buffanblu (6-1, 4-1) suffered their first defeat of the season.

"The second half we made a little bit of an adjustment, but the first half, give credit to them," Saint Louis coach Cal Lee said of the Buffanblu, who recorded all five of their sacks on Crusaders' quarterback Jayden de Laura before halftime.

"They really put the pressure on Jayden — thankfully he can move around, he got away from a lot of the sacks and we were able to survive," said Lee, the winningest prep football coach in state history.

De Laura, a 5-foot-11, 183-pound senior, threw for a season-high 405 yards on 34-of-40 passing without an interception in the win. He tossed touchdown passes of 10 and 46 yards to Michigan-commit Roman Wilson, who finished with 11 receptions for 190 yards. UCLA-bound Matthew Sykes added nine catches for 131 yards.

The Crusaders trailed at halftime for the first time in a long time, but there was no sense of panic in the locker room.

"Same mood as always," Wilson said. "We knew we just had to go out there and we just had to continue to play football, so I wouldn't say it was any different from any other game."

The score was tied at 19 after Punahou's Quinn Maretzki knocked through a 29-yard field goal three plays into the fourth quarter.

Saint Louis took the lead for good on Koali Nishigaya's 4-yard TD run with 3:36 left to play. Nishigaya started at slotback (where he posted seven grabs for 38 yards), but closed out the game at running back.

"I really like him," Lee said of the 5-foot-6, 155-pound Nishigaya. "I mean, I think he can go to the next level, he's that kind of player, but people look at his size and they just think he's too small, but I think he's a helluva of a football player. I mean, he's not a lineman — he's a receiver — he's got good moves, he's got good speed, he's smart. I really like him, I really do."

Despite just seven carries — all of them coming after halftime — the senior finished with a game-high 69 yards rushing. He also scored on a 1-yard run midway through the third quarter that cut the Buffanblu lead to 16-12.

"Koali is the man. He can do everything, it don't matter if he's small, he's the best slot out there. He shows up in big games," de Laura said.

However, the ensuing extra point was wide right and the Crusaders clung to a six-point lead.

Punahou got to the Saint Louis 39-yard line on on its final drive, but quarterback John-Keawe Sagapolutele had to leave the game for one play after he was slow to get up following a third-down sack. Ian Eveleth, who started the season as the team's third-string quarterback, threw a deep ball to Koa Eldredge along the left sideline on fourth-and-12, but his pass was overthrown and the Crusaders took over on downs and ran out the final two-plus minutes.

"I'm very proud of the kids, they played as well as they could," Buffanblu coach Kale Ane said. "Saint Louis is very deserving of all the accolades they've gotten and our kids stepped up to the challenge and challenged them really well."

Vincent Terrell returned the game's opening kickoff for a 94-yard touchdown to put Punahou ahead early.

Saint Louis got on the board with de Laura's 10-yard scoring strike to Wilson on a fourth-and-7 with 4:19 left in the first quarter.

"I saw the safety — the safety switched it off — so I waited for (Wilson) to pass by the safety and then I threw it," de Laura said of the TD pass.

Wilson added of his quarterback: "He did a good job of reading it and I think that's why he's the best in the state."

However, the PAT was blocked and the Buffanblu held on to a 7-6 lead until Sapolutele's 12-yard TD pass to Eldredge with about seven minutes left in the first half stretched it to a 13-6 advantage. The score came five plays after a Crusaders' fumble that was forced by Andrew Canonico and recovered by DJ Utu for Punahou.

"We tell our players all the time, I mean, you gotta play two halves. Our first half wasn't the greatest and you know, we haven't had too many turnovers for the last three or four games and then all of a sudden we got turnovers and you've got to react and respond to all the turnovers that we had and I think we kind of did that," Lee said.

Saint Louis lost four of its five fumbles on the night — all but one of them lost in the red zone.

"I mean, we just learned from our mistakes, we knew we just had to take care of the ball, we knew what we were doing wrong, so it was easy, just take care of the ball," de Laura said.

Maretzki's 30-yard field goal on the final play of the first half gave the Buffanblu a 10-point lead at the intermission.

The Crusaders outscored the Buffanblu 19-3 after halftime, including 13-0 in the third stanza. After Nishigaya's first TD run, the Saint Louis defense forced a three-and-out by Punahou and five plays later, Wilson got beat single coverage along the right sideline and pulled down high-arching 46-yard scoring pass from de Laura to give their team its first lead at 19-16.

"That was the adjustment," de Laura explained. "We were supposed to run an in (route) on that, but the way they were playing it, I told (Wilson) to fake that in and then take it up and he did that and it worked; he was wide open."

De Laura said the changes offensive coordinator Ron Lee implemented at halftime were simple.

"Our adjustment was just get the ball out of my hands, just gotta get it out fast. When I was holding on to the ball, that's when they were getting to me, so we kind of worked short stuff and just chipped away at it," de Laura said.

Sagapolutele, a freshman who was making his fifth career start since a season-ending knee injury to UPenn-commit Hugh Brady, finished with 245 yards on 27-of-43 passing without an interception.

Eldredge posted a game-high 14 catches for 112 yards in the loss.

Jarrin Sato made a game-high 9 1/2 tackles, Alakai Gilman had 8 1/2, Eli Thompson 7 1/2 and Legend Matautia 6 1/2 for the Buffanblu. Gilman also had a pair of fumble recoveries and Matautia recorded one of his team's five sacks.

"I just think our kids played with a lot of heart and courage and they never quit and against a great Saint Louis team that is ranked number eight in the country, it was great to see our kids play so well," Ane said.

Nicholas Herbig made a team-high seven tackles and recovered a fumble that led to the Crusaders' first score. Bredan Aniya had six tackles, Lawaialani Brown posted 5 1/2 stops and Jordan Botelho added five tackles and a sack in the win.

Saint Louis finished with 557 yards of total offense to Punahou's 275.

The Crusaders now turn their attention to next Friday's showdown against No. 2 Mililani, while the Buffanblu will visit fifth-ranked Campbell next Saturday.

 

just G checking you

[Sammyswordsman]

6 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

Damn Lowndes crushes a Tier 3 team by 4 scores (couldve been 5 as they ended the game inside the MNW 3) and now they are only Tier 3.

Tier 2 IMG 24, MNW 7

Tier 3 Lowndes 48, MNW 21 (couldve easily been 55-21)

Northwestern is Tier 5.  IMG also has wins over SJC and SJP, which are better than Lowndes wins.

[Sammyswordsman]

Just now, GardenStateBaller said:

There’s no way DV and IMG are not Tier 1 at this time. 

Also, please confirm that a Tier 1 team MUST BE undefeated at all times. Thx. 

Have you been ingesting what you have been watching?  Two weeks ago you were on the SFA bandwagon as the greatest team ever in HS football. 

Lets see what a real Tier 1 teams does vs. SJC before you comment.

Lets see if IMG can beat SFA.

The loser of a close game between MD and SJB will stay in Tier 1. 

[SeaShells21]

8 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

Damn Lowndes crushes a Tier 3 team by 4 scores (couldve been 5 as they ended the game inside the MNW 3) and now they are only Tier 3.

Tier 2 IMG 24, MNW 7

Tier 3 Lowndes 48, MNW 21 (couldve easily been 55-21)

Do the tiers ever make sense? It’s pointless trying to do this week after week. Try doing tiers after every 3 games or something.

[imaGoodBoyNow]

3 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

Have you been ingesting what you have been watching?  Two weeks ago you were on the SFA bandwagon as the greatest team ever in HS football. 

Lets see what a real Tier 1 teams does vs. SJC before you comment.

Lets see if IMG can beat SFA.

The loser of a close game between MD and SJB will stay in Tier 1. 

@Sammyswordsman sjr tier 1 WHEN THEY BEAT THE SNOT  out of the Boys from Baltimore 

[SeaShells21]

4 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

There’s no way DV and IMG are not Tier 1 at this time. 

Also, please confirm that a Tier 1 team MUST BE undefeated at all times. Thx. 

Which is why I asked what happens after Mater Dei and St John Bosco play. It’s not even a tier if it only has one team on it. 

[Sammyswordsman]

1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said:

IMO you lose all credibility not having DV and IMG in T1. You’re looking like even more of a Homer now. You’re better than that. 

Sorry to disagree.  IF SJC was a better team you would have a point, but they have not shown that yet.  IMG struggled comparatively against SJC. 

Go watch Mater Dei in person and then get back to me.

FYI - all undefeated teams do not get a claim to Tier 1.

[imaGoodBoyNow]

5 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

IMO you lose all credibility not having DV and IMG in T1. You’re looking like even more of a Homer now. You’re better than that. 

T1 should be Unbeatables, any team  in T1 status should be SuperStar teams 

[Sammyswordsman]

7 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

IMO SFA is still T1 despite the MD loss. The object of this exercise is not to have 1-2 teams in T1 at season’s end. 

SFA was close to getting running clocked being down 34-6 before the 2's came in for MD.  No way they stay in Tier 1.  You don't watch the games close enough.

[Sammyswordsman]

11 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Regardless of the above game results, all can be Tier 1 is my point. 

No they can't.  That would dilute the "god Tier."

[imaGoodBoyNow]

Just now, GardenStateBaller said:

Totally disrespectful to DV and IMG. They’ve did absolutely nothing negative to get dropped a tier. 

Should have scheduled a tougher OOS

[Sammyswordsman]

1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Totally disrespectful to DV and IMG. They’ve did absolutely nothing negative to get dropped a tier. 

IMG trailed SJC.

Duncanville has a case as of now, but they would have had a better case if SJC beat IMG.  Alot of teams have beaten SJC so that isn't much for street cred.

[imaGoodBoyNow]

Just now, GardenStateBaller said:

IMG is feared by most. Easier said than done. DV stepped up, won and should be rewarded for such. 

Yes but their fan base is acting very Tier 6 like, sooo Sammy wel move them up if they tighten up

[Sammyswordsman]

1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Never said SFA should be T1. DV and IMG absolutely should. 

By all accounts people say Mater Dei is better this year than last year

By all account people say IMG is worse than last year.

By all accounts MD beat IMG last year.

By all accounts SJC is worse than last year.

By all accounts Duncanville lost to North Shore last year.

By all accounts North Shore lost to Katy

By all accounts Katy has a better case for Tier 1 than Duncanville.

[StingMan44]

Eastside Catholic should be on here somewhere. Also, if Centennial (AZ) is Tier 6, Pinnacle (AZ) should be too. 

[Sammyswordsman]

1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said:

Let the games play out. It’s fairer to downgrade teams from T1 than to upgrade them from T2. 

I prefer to have teams EARN Tier 1.

IF IMG destroys SFA then they Earned Tier 1. 

If Duncanville can beat Katy and Nothshore, then they earn Tier 1.

If Mater Dei or SJB struggle against any teams (besides each other) then that opens the door for more teams to move into Tier 1.

 

Tier 1 is relative among the teams that are in it.  Right now I see too big of a gap between MD/SJB and everyone else.