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Where does Tommie Frazier rank all-time as a CFB QB?


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2 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said:

Tony rice lost games as a starter in 87 and 89. 

He barely played in one of those two losses that he started in 1987.  He only started 6 games due to the starter getting hurt iirc.

In 1989 he lost to Top 10 Miami. That was it...despite playing a schedule with 7 ranked teams.  I think 5 of those teams ended up in the Top 10.

Those ND Teams were no slouch.

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7 hours ago, Frosty4024 said:

He barely played in one of those two losses that he started in 1987.  He only started 6 games due to the starter getting hurt iirc.

In 1989 he lost to Top 10 Miami. That was it...despite playing a schedule with 7 ranked teams.  I think 5 of those teams ended up in the Top 10.

Those ND Teams were no slouch.

Notre Dame was given the 1988 Miami game by the refs. 

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11 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said:

Another great option  QB was Steadman Shealy of Alabama never lost a game 12-0 1979 national title.

He also had the best defense of the last 50 years helping him.

He probably couldn't run a sub 5.0 forty. And those offenses weren't very good at all. Like you said, defense led the way.

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10 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said:

Tony rice lost games as a starter in 87 and 89. 

The '87 team rotated Rice and Andryzak (sp?). Rice wasn't playing when Pitt ran up a huge lead in the 1st half en route to their '87 win. And the '89 loss was a road game at Miami, who, while very much overrated that year, still represented a much tougher challenge than most QBs face. Probably no tougher than what Frazier overcame in the OB of the '94 season, though.

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1 hour ago, badrouter said:

He probably couldn't run a sub 5.0 forty. And those offenses weren't very good at all. Like you said, defense led the way.

Alabama in 12 games gave up only 67 points.  1st string defense gave up only 6 tds all year.  Only gave up 3 td drives the entire year of over 59 yards.

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16 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said:

Alabama in 12 games gave up only 67 points.  1st string defense gave up only 6 tds all year.  Only gave up 3 td drives the entire year of over 59 yards.

Talking about the 2011 defense? 

Edit: Nvm 2011 played 13 games and allowed 9 TD's. 

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The contrast between Miami and Nebraska, especially in that era, was fascinating. Not just on the field, but the way of life. Being out on the prairie, near farms and corn fields with lots of hunting and outdoor stuff. Versus being in South Florida with the beaches, hurricanes, etc. An interesting contrast that goes beyond football. Anyway, continue...

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