Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, badrouter said: You have a strange fixation with the unabomber. You remind me of him. By the way, are you going to address your non-expert doctor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: The flabbergasting irony of dismissing an expert that doesn't agree with to then point me in the direction of two experts who seemingly do agree with you is something. You asked for names of competent, qualified people who’ve been right more than the CDC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, badrouter said: You asked for names of competent, qualified people who’ve been right more than the CDC. And one of the first ones you gave is a surgeon. You're a clown. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: By the way, what happened to Dr. Wenn? Did you have enough of lying about her? I’ve never lied about Leanna Wen. She’s one voice, as qualified but not more qualified, who’s made many good points while still approaching this from a more neurotic POV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 24 minutes ago, badrouter said: I suggest following Monica Ghandi and Marty Mackary for starters. Not because they are the only two worth following, but because it’s a good place to start. Some of the more well-known figures (John Ionnadis, Martin Kulldorf), while having been smeared through “quick, devastating published take downs” by the ruling class, have had most/all of their points go without refutation as well. This might go down as one of the great self-takedowns this side of concha. First, after smearing an epidemiologist as a "nobody" and someone we shouldn't listen to, badrouter tells me to follow Marty Makary who is not an epidemiologist or infectious disease expert of any kind. He's a surgeon! Then he claims that his (and others) claims go without refutation. But Marty Makary has gone on the record with a lot of claims that were either proven untrue or are conspiracy theorist. When COVID-19 vaccines became available, Makary argued in a February 2021 op-ed in The Wall Street Journal that the United States would achieve herd immunity for COVID-19 around April 2021, and later criticized Anthony Fauci for predicting that 75-80% vaccination rates would be required for herd immunity.[30][31] So two claims that turned out to be untrue without doing much research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, badrouter said: I’ve never lied about Leanna Wen. You did. You lied about what she said and then admitted that you didn't really follow her at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Claiming that cloth masks are useless is a total lie that you spout because the only thing that meets your delusion is your lack of discipline. They are demonstrably useless against SARS-CoV-2, for reasons already provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, badrouter said: You asked for names of competent, qualified people who’ve been right more than the CDC. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, badrouter said: They are demonstrably useless against SARS-CoV-2, for reasons already provided. You just completely made this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, badrouter said: They are demonstrably useless against SARS-CoV-2, for reasons already provided. Not according to one of your preferred experts. Could More Mask Mandates Stop the Delta Surge? Gandhi: It's not doing ... it's doing some, like, there's blockage depending on how good the quality of the material is between 52% and 65%. And there's a bunch of different mask studies that show that, but it's not 95%, which is what you'll get with a surgical plus cloth, or you'll get with a cloth and then sticking that filter material inside of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 badrouter is a loon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This is comic gold. So the guy badrouter shit on earlier is an actual Epidemiologist. He has a degree from Harvard. Marty Makary? He's a surgical oncoclogist! Not an Epidemiologist or infectious disease expert of *any* kind. Makary is a professor of Public Health at Johns Hopkins. Ding is a nutrition epidemiologist who would truly be a nobody without Twitter and tribalism. He’s a wannabe politician, ramping up his next campaign from Twitter. Ultimately, it is the points and arguments set forth that must be refuted. Credentials pissing contests fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 24 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: But they've all called for it to be investigated. There's this inconvenient thing called reality. It tends to render any badrouter claim as moot. They did this MONTHS after previously completely shutting down any speculation and directing social media to ban accounts of those who did speculate on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, badrouter said: Ding is a nutrition epidemiologist who would truly be a nobody without Twitter and tribalism. Whatever credibility you might have had has been squandered because of your petty lies about Ding and these other doctors. Ding has an undergraduate degree in Public Health from Johns Hopkins and a doctorate in Epidemiology from Harvard. You hate him because he says things you don't like. You have been exposed as a clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 The pettiness that badrouter is displaying is something else A completely personally driven attack on this Ding guy for no other reason than he disagrees with what he says. He then tried to peddle experts who were less qualified than him. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, badrouter said: At no point in history has there been a single randomized controlled trial demonstrating efficacy for cloth masks on humans seeking protection from SARS-CoV-2. 👇 8 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Not according to one of your preferred experts. Could More Mask Mandates Stop the Delta Surge? Gandhi: It's not doing ... it's doing some, like, there's blockage depending on how good the quality of the material is between 52% and 65%. And there's a bunch of different mask studies that show that, but it's not 95%, which is what you'll get with a surgical plus cloth, or you'll get with a cloth and then sticking that filter material inside of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: The pettiness that badrouter is displaying is something else A completely personally driven attack on this Ding guy for no other reason than he disagrees with what he says. He then tried to peddle experts who were less qualified than him. Amazing. Ding is not as qualified as any of the names I’ve provided. Nutrition epidemiology and alarmist Twitter posts does not make one a distinctive authority on the spread of infectious diseases or on appropriate public health policy. Ionnadis and Kulldorf have also been smeared by the leftist propaganda machine. And only because they’ve said things people like you don’t like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, badrouter said: Ding is not as qualified as any of the names I’ve provided. You were proven wrong. 👇 38 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Marty Makary? He's a surgical oncologist! Not an Epidemiologist or infectious disease expert of *any* kind. Ding has both a degree in public health and a doctorate in Epidemiology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: 👇 Those studies weren’t for SARS-CoV-2. And, while Ghandi was one of the first to advocate for masks, she’s also one who advocates for providing an off-ramp to drop mask mandates. Perhaps you should give her a follow. She’s been a voice of reason throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, badrouter said: alarmist Twitter posts does not make one a distinctive authority on the spread of infectious diseases or on appropriate public health policy. You think you discredited him because you merely call him alarmist. But he's more of an expert than Makary. This is fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, badrouter said: Perhaps you should give her a follow. She’s been a voice of reason throughout. She completely refuted you on two main points you've made in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: You were proven wrong. 👇 Ding has both a degree in public health and a doctorate in Epidemiology. Perhaps Ding had Makary as a professor at Johns Hopkins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, badrouter said: She’s been a voice of reason throughout. She's the best one you listed. But at least two of them are quacks and/or potential conspiracy theorists. It's funny watching you attack experts that you don't like and then claim that the ones you do like are "voices of reason." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, badrouter said: Perhaps Ding had Makary as a professor at Johns Hopkins? Who knows. All I know is you were wrong and clearly biased towards doctors who agree with your preconceived notions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: You think you discredited him because you merely call him alarmist. But he's more of an expert than Makary. This is fact. I’m afraid that word doesn’t mean what you think it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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