noonereal Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 13 hours ago, Belly Bob said: NOR's back and he's arguing about CP?! Everything's back to normal. I've missed you. Nice to be greeted by all, even the village idiot! Happy Holidays 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 20 hours ago, Pops said: Is there anyone in FL that can spell algorithm? Are you saying that an algorithm can't be biased toward certain areas or teams with a certain kind of makeup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 4 hours ago, noonereal said: Nice to be greeted by all, even the village idiot! Merry Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 21 hours ago, Pops said: CA. 18 TX 12 FL 12 OH 11 GA. 9 AR. 6 3 — MS, PA, (NorCal — inc in CA) 2 — MO, NJ, SC, TN, UT 1 — AZ, AL, DC, HA, IL, IN, KY, MD, MI, MN, NV, OK 0 — AS, CO, CT, DE, ID, IA, KS, LA, ME, MA, MT, NB, NM, NY, NC, ND, OR, RI, VT, VA, WA, WI, WV, WY am seeing the impact @golfaddict1 has been pointing out in AR Arkansas is ahead of Texas this week in Freeman’s “top 50” sos in state average. Think about that. Top 50! November is over. As I mentioned Pops in the another thread when is Calpreps sweet spot? Pre October no. State playoff boost being factored at different points of playoffs (UT playoffs finished last week, this week was Texas round 2) in effect and or some weird AR data point altogether. We are beyond the state scaling discussion and realize the faults and weaknesses Freeman deals with when he’s pushing a novelty national rating. Something is clearly wrong with this week’s 25... just start from 25 up. Sorry but only an algorithm could come up with this pattern of OH. Remember top 25 in nation here. Sos in a power state is hijacking the top 25 nationally and that’s not what his rating system was about. He needs to tinker more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 5 hours ago, noonereal said: It's obvious that Ned screwed the pooch with his adjustment. As I said, I am very disappointed in Ned. I love that you dont see the whole point... CalPreps can and is adjusted however the fuck a HUMAN wants it to be... its not what you said it was for years. And just to go over GA a little better than Ararar did... 45. Colquitt Co. - lost to #53, #56, and #92... but beat #90 and #107 in the playoffs... 46. North Gwinnett - only loss to #107, but has beaten #68... 53. Lowndes - was upset by #74, but has wins over #45 & #92.. 56. Brookwood - has lost to #90 and #107, but wins over #45 and #92... 68. Grayson - has lost to #46 and #90, but has wins over #58 (OOS team) and #74... 72. Buford - has lost to #27 (by 6 to OOS team) .. has wins over #237, and #281 74. McEachern - has lost to #68, but has given #53 its only loss 90. Archer - lost to #45, but has beaten #56 & #68 92. Tift Co. - lost to #53 & #56, but has beaten #45 107. Walton - lost to #45, but has beaten #46 & #56 Its complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: I love that you dont see the whole point... CalPreps can and is adjusted however the fuck a HUMAN wants it to be... its not what you said it was for years. And just to go over GA a little better than Ararar did... 45. Colquitt Co. - lost to #53, #56, and #92... but beat #90 and #107 in the playoffs... 46. North Gwinnett - only loss to #107, but has beaten #68... 53. Lowndes - was upset by #74, but has wins over #45 & #92.. 56. Brookwood - has lost to #90 and #107, but wins over #45 and #92... 68. Grayson - has lost to #46 and #90, but has wins over #58 (OOS team) and #74... 72. Buford - has lost to #27 (by 6 to OOS team) .. has wins over #237, and #281 74. McEachern - has lost to #68, but has given #53 its only loss 90. Archer - lost to #45, but has beaten #56 & #68 92. Tift Co. - lost to #53 & #56, but has beaten #45 107. Walton - lost to #45, but has beaten #46 & #56 Its complicated. Why do you always speak so vulgar and with such anger? I mean this sincerely, you need to address that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 A GA and NJ combined Top 50... NOR, Just wanted you to see that in a GA and NJ combined Top 50... 80% of the teams would be from Georgia... 40 of the Top 50 would be GA teams ... and in a Top 25 ... 21 of the Top 25 would be from GA, or 84% of the teams... and only 4 of the 25 from NJ... in fact in a Top 30, 26 of the teams would be from GA... or 86.67% This from that site you like... 45. Colquitt Co. GA (1) 46. North Gwinnett GA (2) 51. Bergen Catholic NJ (1) 53. Lowndes GA (3) 56. Brookwood GA (4) 68. Grayson GA (5) 72. Buford GA (6) 74. McEachern GA (7) 76. St. Joseph Regional NJ (2) 88. St. Peter's Prep NJ (3) 90. Archer GA (8) 92. Tift Co. GA (9) 107. Walton GA (10) 111. Rome GA (11) 120. DePaul Catholic NJ (4) 128. Lee Co. GA (12) 140. Cartersville GA (13) 154. Marist GA (14) 156. Blessed Trinity GA (15) 169. Warner Robins GA (16) 184. ELCA GA (17) 188. Coffee GA (18) 203. Tucker GA (19) 220. Glynn Academy GA (20) 225. Parkview GA (21) 236. Greater Atl. Christian GA (22) 237. Hillgrove GA (23) 259. Cedar Grove GA (24) 265. Rabun Co. GA (25) 266. Hapeville Charter GA (26) 274. Brooks Co. GA (27) 275. Lenape NJ (5) 280. Milton GA (28) 281. Stockbridge GA (29) 287. Benedictine GA (30) 321. Mill Creek GA (31) 342. Marietta GA (32) 370. Peach Co. GA (33) 391. Jones Co. GA (34) 393. Northern Valley NJ (6) 429. Pope John XXIII NJ (7) 440. South Forsyth GA (35) 459. North Paulding GA (36) 463. Mays GA (37) 467. Norcross GA (38) 497. Manalapan NJ (8) 517. Paramus Catholic NJ (9) 542. Northside-WR GA (39) 580. Brunswick GA (40) 612. St. Joseph (Hamm.) NJ (10) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: A GA and NJ combined Top 50... NOR, Just wanted you to see that in a GA and NJ combined Top 50... 80% of the teams would be from Georgia... 40 of the Top 50 would be GA teams ... and in a Top 25 ... 21 of the Top 25 would be from GA, or 84% of the teams... and only 4 of the 25 from NJ... in fact in a Top 30, 26 of the teams would be from GA... or 86.67% This from that site you like... 45. Colquitt Co. GA (1) 46. North Gwinnett GA (2) 51. Bergen Catholic NJ (1) 53. Lowndes GA (3) 56. Brookwood GA (4) 68. Grayson GA (5) 72. Buford GA (6) 74. McEachern GA (7) 76. St. Joseph Regional NJ (2) 88. St. Peter's Prep NJ (3) 90. Archer GA (8) 92. Tift Co. GA (9) 107. Walton GA (10) 111. Rome GA (11) 120. DePaul Catholic NJ (4) 128. Lee Co. GA (12) 140. Cartersville GA (13) 154. Marist GA (14) 156. Blessed Trinity GA (15) 169. Warner Robins GA (16) 184. ELCA GA (17) 188. Coffee GA (18) 203. Tucker GA (19) 220. Glynn Academy GA (20) 225. Parkview GA (21) 236. Greater Atl. Christian GA (22) 237. Hillgrove GA (23) 259. Cedar Grove GA (24) 265. Rabun Co. GA (25) 266. Hapeville Charter GA (26) 274. Brooks Co. GA (27) 275. Lenape NJ (5) 280. Milton GA (28) 281. Stockbridge GA (29) 287. Benedictine GA (30) 321. Mill Creek GA (31) 342. Marietta GA (32) 370. Peach Co. GA (33) 391. Jones Co. GA (34) 393. Northern Valley NJ (6) 429. Pope John XXIII NJ (7) 440. South Forsyth GA (35) 459. North Paulding GA (36) 463. Mays GA (37) 467. Norcross GA (38) 497. Manalapan NJ (8) 517. Paramus Catholic NJ (9) 542. Northside-WR GA (39) 580. Brunswick GA (40) 612. St. Joseph (Hamm.) NJ (10) Nice work... if I may add, 7 OH schools in the top 25 this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 9 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Nice work... if I may add, 7 OH schools in the top 25 this week. Man... Theres 9 OH teams from rankings 17 to 30... its insane... 17. Archbishop Hoban - 0 Top 100 wins 18. Mentor 19. Pickerington North - 3 losses, 2 to Pick. Central and 1 to #162 Centerville 21. Trotwood-Madison 22. St. Xavier 23. St. Ignatius - 2 losses, 1 to a team in the 400s 25. Winton Woods - lost to 186 Elder 26. Colerain - only 1 win better than #372, plus 3 losses 30. Pickerington Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: A GA and NJ combined Top 50... NOR, Just wanted you to see that in a GA and NJ combined Top 50... 80% of the teams would be from Georgia... 40 of the Top 50 would be GA teams ... and in a Top 25 ... 21 of the Top 25 would be from GA, or 84% of the teams... and only 4 of the 25 from NJ... in fact in a Top 30, 26 of the teams would be from GA... or 86.67% This from that site you like... 45. Colquitt Co. GA (1) 46. North Gwinnett GA (2) 51. Bergen Catholic NJ (1) 53. Lowndes GA (3) 56. Brookwood GA (4) 68. Grayson GA (5) 72. Buford GA (6) 74. McEachern GA (7) 76. St. Joseph Regional NJ (2) 88. St. Peter's Prep NJ (3) 90. Archer GA (8) 92. Tift Co. GA (9) 107. Walton GA (10) 111. Rome GA (11) 120. DePaul Catholic NJ (4) 128. Lee Co. GA (12) 140. Cartersville GA (13) 154. Marist GA (14) 156. Blessed Trinity GA (15) 169. Warner Robins GA (16) 184. ELCA GA (17) 188. Coffee GA (18) 203. Tucker GA (19) 220. Glynn Academy GA (20) 225. Parkview GA (21) 236. Greater Atl. Christian GA (22) 237. Hillgrove GA (23) 259. Cedar Grove GA (24) 265. Rabun Co. GA (25) 266. Hapeville Charter GA (26) 274. Brooks Co. GA (27) 275. Lenape NJ (5) 280. Milton GA (28) 281. Stockbridge GA (29) 287. Benedictine GA (30) 321. Mill Creek GA (31) 342. Marietta GA (32) 370. Peach Co. GA (33) 391. Jones Co. GA (34) 393. Northern Valley NJ (6) 429. Pope John XXIII NJ (7) 440. South Forsyth GA (35) 459. North Paulding GA (36) 463. Mays GA (37) 467. Norcross GA (38) 497. Manalapan NJ (8) 517. Paramus Catholic NJ (9) 542. Northside-WR GA (39) 580. Brunswick GA (40) 612. St. Joseph (Hamm.) NJ (10) Let me help you out, NJ sucks no matter what the high school Football metric envoked this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Man... Theres 9 OH teams from rankings 17 to 30... its insane... 17. Archbishop Hoban - 0 Top 100 wins 18. Mentor 19. Pickerington North - 3 losses, 2 to Pick. Central and 1 to #162 Centerville 21. Trotwood-Madison 22. St. Xavier 23. St. Ignatius - 2 losses, 1 to a team in the 400s 25. Winton Woods - lost to 186 Elder 26. Colerain - only 1 win better than #372, plus 3 losses 30. Pickerington Central Yikes. Pick. North is a real ? and number 30 is still in the playoffs. If Freeman truly looked at head to head how is Pick North ahead of a school that beat them 2x including the playoffs! That’s absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Yikes. Pick. North is a real ? and number 30 is still in the playoffs. If Freeman truly looked at head to head how is Pick North ahead of a school that beat them 2x including the playoffs! That’s absurd. Yeah Pick North has lost to 30 twice and 162... but because they beat #129 and #162 badly... they are #18 nationally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said: Yikes. Pick. North is a real ? and number 30 is still in the playoffs. If Freeman truly looked at head to head how is Pick North ahead of a school that beat them 2x including the playoffs! That’s absurd. Calpreps loves OH the same way they love Socal and NJ and TX and other areas where top teams regularly play one another OH always has a surge at CO around now due to an earlier playoff boost as well the Pickerings are a quandary — normally, I can at least observe something that explains the complaint (of not justifies), but in this case all i can come up with is central struggled vs some teams they shouldn’t have — beat #454 by 3, #654 by 5, and #1440 by 1. You don’t often see teams with 3 good wins and no bad losses and vice versa and 2 of those games for each team we’re their head to heads. As far as i understand, the only “head to head” consideration (which humans value possibly disproportionally to an overall evaluation) is the 0.2 than an undefeated team will always stay over a team that they beat regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, Pops said: Calpreps loves OH the same way they love Socal and NJ and TX and other areas where top teams regularly play one another And teams connected to those areas. See Spartans, De La Salle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, noonereal said: Let me help you out, NJ sucks no matter what the high school Football metric envoked this year. Is that a fact? Could there be a chance, however slim, the talent is more evenly distributed among more teams? Now if you could only get some of the public schools interested.In the 60's, 70's and into the 80's, Clifton and Passiac, and others were putting out players.See any Penn State roster from the era.I've heard those teams, and some others were able to compete. Then again, do you have enough talent and or coaching to field one (see Cen-10 )public school squad capable of giving a BNU team a fair fight? Will we see in the near future a New jersey team, a public school, make a move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestcoast Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 11/25/2017 at 1:51 PM, ECHS05 said: Same strategy as always being used by Pops.. Misrepresent, lie, lie, and lie some more. Its never been said by any GAian that 3-loss teams cant be better than undefeated teams. It has been said for years that Colquitt plays best in the playoffs. I still think North Gwinnett is the best in GA... at this moment atleast. Until CalPreps stops looking like this... it'll never matter 3. St. John Bosco CA 4. Bingham UT 5. St. Louis HI 9. Corona Centennial CA 10. North Little Rock AR (lol) 11. Mission Viejo CA 14. De La Salle CA 15. Folsom CA 16. Christian Brothers MO (CB lost to the #7 TN team... a GA 1A team beat TN #5 55-10... and a GA 4A beat TN #6 45-19...) 17. Archbishop Hoban OH 18. Pickerington North OH (this team has 3 losses and 0 Top 100 wins... makes no sense) 20. Trotwood-Madison OH 21. Bentonville AR (Theres NINE (9!) Ohio teams between #17-#30... #17, #18, #19, #20, #22, #23, #26, #27, & #30... theres absolutely no one that can make an argument for this) 28. Greenwood AR 29. St. Augustine FL (whose best win is a 3 point victory over a team that Cartersville, #132, beat by 7 and was up 38-10 at one point on) 32. Brentwood Academy TN (saw them play Bishop Dunne.. they arent that good) 33. Muskegon MI (I like Muskegon, but they are at 33 while not owning a Top 400 win on the service they are rated #33 on) 34. Valencia CA (this is just stupid) 45. Arlington Martin TX (no Top 200 win and a loss to #54... common sense says they shouldnt be above 54) 47. Bishop Miege KS 51. Mission Hills CA 55. Bergen Catholic NJ ... lost 62-14, GTFO 65. Helix CA (why is this teams always so high for absolutely no season at all) 73. Pittsburg CA (wins over NorCal teams only and a 42 point loss to an overrated Cen10 team) 85. Longview TX 86. Highland ID 93. Staley KS 95. Pine Bluff AR (best win is #316 with a loss to #343... how the hell are they here) 98. Bryant AR 99. De La Salle MI (has a loss to a team in the 2000s) Those teams would be top 10 in Ga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Bestcoast said: Those teams would be top 10 in Ga What teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: What teams Aren't you the guy who thought Valdosta and Cartersville were elite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, Guccifer said: Aren't you the guy who thought Valdosta and Cartersville were elite? Arent you the guy that thought STA was elite... Hows that working out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, ECHS05 said: Arent you the guy that thought STA was elite... Hows that working out Depends on when it was said. But your dodging is a tacit admission of guilt. I guess your such a transparent clown that you don't even hide it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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