Columbiafan Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Here is some of the 1988 Dallas Carter game vs Judson which was state championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 So again Matchup is 1985 Escambia vs 1988 Dallas Carter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 I dont even see Manatee ranked in the USAToday Top 25 in 1985... Howd they get in the tourney... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Manatees 1985 5A Playoff run... - - - Manatee 39, Largo 22 - 1st Rd Manatee 42, Forest Hill 7 - 2nd Rd Manatee 22, Coral Gables 8 - Semifinals Manatee 50, Woodham 22 - State Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: I dont even see Manatee ranked in the USAToday Top 25 in 1985... Howd they get in the tourney... Good question When i was filling this bracket out i wasn't doing the same rule that i had used in the national tournament where all states were represented so because of that unless i found a team by luck who was good or someone brought them up then my focus went towards the power states to fill a lot of spots So FL, GA, TX, CA, OH and NJ ended up with a good majority of the teams qualifying Because of this i started a thread asking for the best FL teams over on the FL board so i could fill in a few spots, kinda like when i did the same for Texas, GA and CA Anyway manatee was picked as the best FL team that year and they were added in While a few teams aren't necessarily contenders to win the entire thing we don't need every team in the tournament to be world beaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 21 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Manatees 1985 5A Playoff run... - - - Manatee 39, Largo 22 - 1st Rd Manatee 42, Forest Hill 7 - 2nd Rd Manatee 22, Coral Gables 8 - Semifinals Manatee 50, Woodham 22 - State Championship Woodham used to have a solid team in the 80s I think they closed down though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 @ECHS05 Here are the states with at least 1 team in the tournament FL GA CA TX NJ OH TN AL AZ NV PA IL IN LA VA KY MS OK WA MD I don't have a exact count on the states but if i had to guess FL, GA, TX and CA have the most of any of the states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Just fyi, Escambia was the highest ranked Florida team at USAToday in 1985... #20 Escambia beat Southeast 27-7 in the FL 4A State Championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 minute ago, ECHS05 said: Just fyi, Escambia was the highest ranked Florida team at USAToday in 1985... #20 Escambia beat Southeast 27-7 in the FL 4A State Championship Wasn't Emmitt Smith on that team or had he already graduated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Just fyi, Escambia was the highest ranked Florida team at USAToday in 1985... #20 Escambia beat Southeast 27-7 in the FL 4A State Championship And do you have a link to these old USAT polls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 I hope you got Clarke Central GA in 1985! USAToday #3... Just looked and saw Derek Dooley played on that team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: And do you have a link to these old USAT polls? Heres USATodays Top 25 rankings from 1982 to 2005... https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/preps/football/year-by-year-rankings.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted March 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 55 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: So again Matchup is 1985 Escambia vs 1988 Dallas Carter On second thought I'm gonna let escambia fill in for manatee I'm more interested in that matchup anyway Just now, ECHS05 said: I hope you got Clarke Central GA in 1985! USAToday #3... Just looked and saw Derek Dooley played on that team... Yeah they are, in fact they are cross matchup for this game so if they win their first game they would face winner of this game in round 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Wasn't Emmitt Smith on that team or had he already graduated? I believe he was a senior on that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted March 31, 2018 Report Share Posted March 31, 2018 Give me Dallas Carter over Escambia.... Closer than one may think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 57 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Give me Dallas Carter over Escambia.... Closer than one may think. From what i read on Dallas Carter they mainly were loaded on defense but their scheme at the time was a good run stopping defense which makes Escambia a good matchup for them because Escambia at the time built around Emmitt Smith running but I don't know if Escambia could score enough even though Dallas Carter offense was relatively basic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 What's everyone else's thoughts on this matchup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 19 hours ago, Columbiafan said: The thing though is I don't think we need to rush it and i generally like using more teams because it gives more discussion and in any tournament lts good to have what i like to call wild cards but at end of day a team like Mater Dei from this past year probably makes semifinals or finals regardless of how many teams are in the tournament so I don't see a issue with having more teams I understand you’re seeding the tournament with maybe the 10 best teams and a lot of other good ones but may not be top 500 in last 33 years will peoduce more discussion than some teams that no one is going to vouch for 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 18 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Im not sure GA actually doesnt have the Single BEST playoffs no matter the state. 💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 8 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Give me Dallas Carter over Escambia.... Closer than one may think. I agree! Carter in a close one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: I agree! Carter in a close one. This seems to be a matchup of Emmitt Smith vs a very talent loaded defense How many yards you think he would have gotten on this defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: This seems to be a matchup of Emmitt Smith vs a very talent loaded defense How many yards you think he would have gotten on this defense? 25-50 yards, Emmitt needs a line, like what he had in Dallas. Did Escambia have a line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: 25-50 yards, Emmitt needs a line, like what he had in Dallas. Did Escambia have a line? I'm not sure honestly lol I know they basically just handed him the ball and let him go so the offensive line was accustomed to running the ball but that doesn't answer if they were a elite line or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: I'm not sure honestly lol I know they basically just handed him the ball and let him go so the offensive line was accustomed to running the ball but that doesn't answer if they were a elite line or not If there was a definition of luck and being truly blessed it was Emmitt Smith, he didn't strike me to be as good as he thought he was. Comparatively, Barry Sanders would run around for 90 yards to get a first down, the Detroit line was that bad.... put Sanders behind the Dallas line he would've got the record and still retire early. Hopefully, someone remembers that Escambia line that could bring texture to this discussion. Carter was big, fast, strong and that athleticism allowed them to make up space created by play execution or error. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Columbiafan said: This seems to be a matchup of Emmitt Smith vs a very talent loaded defense How many yards you think he would have gotten on this defense? I have to agree with BUFORD on this. 50 yards sounds about right. If Sanders had the Cowboys line he might’ve racked up 30,000 yards in his career. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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