RedZone Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Who can blame the guy? "Last year, just before the church shooting, the state lowered the application fees for handgun licenses from $140 to $40. The law also allows applicants to take its safety classes online, instead of a classroom, in addition to at least one hour of shooting range instruction before taking a shooting test." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/05/19/texas-school-shooting-houston-police-chief-calls-gun-control/625751002/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Asshole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 That law had absolutely nothing to do with this shooting... There is no solution to fix this problem other than fixing kids heads. Way to many guns out there to ever get rid of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said: That law had absolutely nothing to do with this shooting... There is no solution to fix this problem other than fixing kids heads. Way to many guns out there to ever get rid of them. You can't get rid of guns...that argument is so stupid and old. And it's not a today problem it's been going on for a long long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just now, Drummer61 said: The board may be done....Same old, same old...😏😏 It's very close to being done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 38 minutes ago, NorCalRuss said: That law had absolutely nothing to do with this shooting... There is no solution to fix this problem other than fixing kids heads. Way to many guns out there to ever get rid of them. Actually it does. As much as folks preach about the right to own guns it's time to come to grips that a heavy responsibility comes with it. The father allowed easy access to his weapons, and there was a heavy crime committed by them. Gun control is an issue and it doesn't necessarily mean fewer guns. Liability is a start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Actually it does. As much as folks preach about the right to own guns it's time to come to grips that a heavy responsibility comes with it. The father allowed easy access to his weapons, and there was a heavy crime committed by them. Gun control is an issue and it doesn't necessarily mean fewer guns. Liability is a start. You can sue so what your saying can already happen. This is the same argument when it comes to driving and the responsibility that comes with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Actually it does. As much as folks preach about the right to own guns it's time to come to grips that a heavy responsibility comes with it. The father allowed easy access to his weapons, and there was a heavy crime committed by them. Gun control is an issue and it doesn't necessarily mean fewer guns. Liability is a start. It would be interesting to see how charging the dad would turn out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: You can sue so what your saying can already happen. This is the same argument when it comes to driving and the responsibility that comes with it. I'm talking charging the dad criminally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I'm talking charging the dad criminally You can.....so this is nothing new. The law is texas is this....purchase a gun at 18....new age when it comes to operating...so really no crime has been committed by the dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: You can.....so this is nothing new. The law is texas is this....purchase a gun at 18....new age when it comes to operating...so really no crime has been committed by the dad Slow down HSFBfan, I'm talking new legislation to hold the dad accountable. If folks just want to sit on their hands and whine and pray, nor reduce the lethality on the street, then when crimes are committed with another persons guns, we hold the gun holder criminally liable. Something needs to be done other what is going on now which is finger pointing. Same can be said if a weapon is stolen and it was shown to not be properly secured....fine the hell out of the gun holder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 29 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Actually it does. As much as folks preach about the right to own guns it's time to come to grips that a heavy responsibility comes with it. The father allowed easy access to his weapons, and there was a heavy crime committed by them. Gun control is an issue and it doesn't necessarily mean fewer guns. Liability is a start. “Last year, just before the church shooting, the state lowered the application fees for handgun licenses from $140 to $40. The law also allows applicants to take its safety classes online, instead of a classroom, in addition to at least one hour of shooting range instruction before taking a shooting test."“ Nothing quoted would’ve prevented this 17 year old from shooting up a school killing innocent kids and teachers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Slow down HSFBfan, I'm talking new legislation to hold the dad accountable. If folks just want to sit on their hands and whine and pray, nor reduce the lethality on the street, then when crimes are committed with another persons guns, we hold the gun holder criminally liable. Something needs to be done other what is going on now which is finger pointing. Same can be said if a weapon is stolen and it was shown to not be properly secured....fine the hell out of the gun holder. So, you want to charge-fine someone because someone breaks in someone’s location and steals a gun...? So if someone steals your car and gets in a police chase and kills an officer or civilian, we should charge-fine you also? If someone breaks into my home and steals one of my guns and goes out and shoots someone I should be charged? Sounds like insanity to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Slow down HSFBfan, I'm talking new legislation to hold the dad accountable. If folks just want to sit on their hands and whine and pray, nor reduce the lethality on the street, then when crimes are committed with another persons guns, we hold the gun holder criminally liable. Something needs to be done other what is going on now which is finger pointing. Same can be said if a weapon is stolen and it was shown to not be properly secured....fine the hell out of the gun holder. I agree in one sense that it should be locked up but in the same sense I disagree completely. You dont have time to unlock the safe to get your gun if your being robbed at home....I do believe that this whole conversation is being blown out of proportion. Maybe parents should have a conversation about guns instead of vilifying it. I have been around guns my whole life and I never shot anything up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 I don't think this is really the day in age to make getting guns even easier. That's my opinion. 40 bucks and an online goober class (don't point a loaded gun, goober)? Come on.....sheesh, fishing licenses are more complicated, believe that! People like this guy in Houston just wants some common sense stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 Right to bear arms- for military and police. You can still have the right to bear arms, IF you join the military or are a police officer. Problem solved. All he keyboard warriors can finally go home and the NRA can be put to bed. Maybe keyboard warriors like @concha will be finally forced off their ass to do something if they want a gun so bad. Too easy right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 You would think the Texas Governor would at least postpone the Texas-Made Shotgun Raffle on his personal website. These assholes just do not care. nra Money and votes.... https://www.gregabbott.com/shotgun/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: Right to bear arms- for military and police. You can still have the right to bear arms, IF you join the military or are a police officer. Problem solved. All he keyboard warriors can finally go home and the NRA can be put to bed. Maybe keyboard warriors like @concha will be finally forced off their ass to do something if they want a gun so bad. Too easy right? Doesnt say that. So stop changing the language. A well regulated militia is any able body that can defend this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Doesnt say that. So stop changing the language. A well regulated militia is any able body that can defend this country. It says right to bear arms. That is all. We can dictate the rest. It doesn't say all people. We can regulate that and make it safe for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: It says right to bear arms. That is all. We can dictate the rest. It doesn't say all people. We can regulate that and make it safe for all. It says a well regulated militia is people that can bear arms https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: It says a well regulated militia is people that can bear arms https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution Perfect for my idea. A militia is the national guard. Counts as military. Police or military only for guns. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: So, you are wiling to give up your right to be armed?? Unless I am police or military sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 57 minutes ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: Perfect for my idea. A militia is the national guard. Counts as military. Police or military only for guns. Problem solved. Your wrong.....a militia is anyone that is able bodied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Your wrong.....a militia is anyone that is able bodied. A militia is the national guard. Not every Tom Dick and Harry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted May 20, 2018 Report Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 minute ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: A militia is the national guard. Not every Tom Dick and Harry. Confirmed as patently false by SCOTUS on numerous occasions. Get to work on that constitutional amendment...thoughts and prayers for your success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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