The Guru Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Palmetto 18, Manatee 12 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Guru said: Palmetto 18, Manatee 12 🤣 Manatee is garbage. The curse of Kinnan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 No clue what these other scores have to do with Columbus-Osceola. Can someone enlighten me? Tomorrow. Signing off for the evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Lakeland's schedule has gone from abysmal to disgraceful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 Lakeland will cruise into the playoffs 10-0 and then it gets interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: Lakeland will cruise into the playoffs 10-0 and then it gets interesting They did prove last year they don't need to play a good schedule to win in playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: Lakeland will cruise into the playoffs 10-0 and then it gets interesting Likely 12-0 until even a smattering of "interesting" will be detectable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 12 hours ago, The Guru said: I already gave it to you but you're too busy trying to deflect and obfuscate. Evidence for claims about the quality of 2019 teams needs to come from 2019. Not playoff games from years past. That previous Osceola teams choked in the playoffs means nothing in regards to this year's team. I never claimed Plant City was invincible this year. I do, however, claim that they are considerably better than you would ever give them credit for. Losing to TBT doesn't make them a bad team. They may well be as good as or better than anyone STA will have to play in the 7A south bracket. But, you probably wouldn't acknowledge that they're any better than some random, ragtag bunch from Broward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, The Guru said: Likely 12-0 until even a smattering of "interesting" will be detectable. One could argue they went all of last season without a truly "interesting" game. Every single team they played trailed by 17 or more in the 2nd half. Nobody was really in the game, with a realistic shot at winning, in the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 They earned 37 points in this game and got raised to the minimum +15 rating boost for the win.  The positive was they won. Ned is showing a weak performance here.  A great win would have been a 28 or 29 plus point differential, earning 61 points max in the game and showing max strength allowed per the algorithm's format.   CalPreps would have placed this game as a trend downward had they played 3 games.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: They earned 37 points in this game and got raised to the minimum +15 rating boost for the win.  The positive was they won. Ned is showing a weak performance here.  A great win would have been a 28 or 29 plus point differential, earning 61 points max in the game and showing max strength allowed per the algorithm's format.   CalPreps would have placed this game as a trend downward had they played 3 games.  The obvious answer is to raise Osceola. Osceola and Columbus should move close together, with most of the movement being Osceola going up.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, badrouter said: The obvious answer is to raise Osceola. Osceola and Columbus should move close together, with most of the movement being Osceola going up.  They received 47 points in the loss, which is a boost for them yes.  Each passing week these games already played will change in performance.  If Columbus improves from here, so will the performance of Osceola in this game and of course if Colombus weakens further, the 47 points earned will decrease in future weeks.   I was expecting a good game between Cardinal Gibbons and Miami Palmetto and Gibbons took a close one.  Palmetto can be a team to knockout Columbus this season, especially seeing the Osceola performance.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 hours ago, badrouter said: Evidence for claims about the quality of 2019 teams needs to come from 2019. Not playoff games from years past. We don't really have any data in 2019, yet. What ass did you pull your Plant City crap out of? Certainly nothing in 2019, cowboy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 hours ago, badrouter said: That previous Osceola teams choked in the playoffs means nothing in regards to this year's team. They didn't choke in the playoffs. They weren't that good and covered for it in the regular season by playing weak Osceola, Polk, Orange County schedules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 hours ago, badrouter said: I never claimed Plant City was invincible this year. And I never said that you did. I quoted you accurately. You're downing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 hours ago, badrouter said: I do, however, claim that they are considerably better than you would ever give them credit for. But they're not. I saw their best team in YEARS on film in 2015 and they weren't very good. You're simply attempting to prop them up because of the connection to Lakeland. Period. Everybody knows this. Stop it with the charade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 hours ago, badrouter said: They may well be as good as or better than anyone STA will have to play in the 7A south bracket. They're likely not better than Plantation, Atlantic and Venice. And maybe Miramar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 hours ago, badrouter said: But, you probably wouldn't acknowledge that they're any better than some random, ragtag bunch from Broward. They're probably better than some random ragtag bunch from Broward but that's irrelevant and that's not what you said. Your nose is growing, Pinocchio. You said they were terribly underrated. Maybe you meant to say that they were terrible. 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 31, 2019 Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 19 hours ago, The Guru said: But they're not. I saw their best team in YEARS on film in 2015 and they weren't very good. You're simply attempting to prop them up because of the connection to Lakeland. Period. Everybody knows this. Stop it with the charade. Smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, The Guru said: We don't really have any data in 2019, yet. What ass did you pull your Plant City crap out of? Certainly nothing in 2019, cowboy. Their talent combined with their performance under the coach/OC. Mario Williams is an elite prospect, and they have several other talented players. They could totally hang with and/or beat any of STA's possible opponents in 7A South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted August 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, The Guru said: They're likely not better than Plantation, Atlantic and Venice. And maybe Miramar. They may well be on par with those teams. Which your statement doesn't seem to refute. But, we know you won't actually come out and concede they're pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 It just keeps getting better with you. First you claimed this: 23 hours ago, badrouter said: Evidence for claims about the quality of 2019 teams needs to come from 2019. Not playoff games from years past. But when asked how you arrived at your conclusion about Plant City you said this: 16 hours ago, badrouter said: Their talent combined with their performance under the coach/OC. You can't even keep your bullshit, pretzel-twisting logic in order. Only 2019 can be used to evaluate 2019 teams! Oh and Plant City is terribly underrated because of their past performance under their coach/OC! 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 16 hours ago, badrouter said: They may well be on par with those teams. Which your statement doesn't seem to refute. How can I refute a hypothetical, possible, maybe that you just made up? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 16 hours ago, badrouter said: But, we know you won't actually come out and concede they're pretty good. Because they're not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 18 hours ago, The Guru said: I saw their best team in YEARS on film in 2015 and they weren't very good. Plant City hasn't won a playoff game since the week before I watched them on Hudl. That was November 20, 2015. But they're "terribly underrated." And they're "pretty good." 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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