concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: When concha says "in fact" then you know he's lying. https://datalab.usaspending.gov/americas-finance-guide/deficit/trends/ And the projections even before COVID-19 had fiscal year 2020 deficit being higher than 2016 as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget#/media/File:U.S._Federal_Deficit_Stacked_Bar_Chart_-_2018_to_2027.png https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306 Well, first off, Andy doesn't know the difference between deficit and debt apparently. I referred to debt increase. Andy prances off to look at deficit. FY Deficit (in billions) Debt Increase Deficit/GDP Events 2016 $585 $1,422 3.1% Presidential race 2017 $665 $672 3.4% Trump Tax Act 2018 $779 $1,271 3.8% Deficit spending 2019 $984 $1,203 4.6% Government shutdown 2020 $1,083 $1,181 4.8% Budget before COVID-19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Practically every fact you post is an actual lie fucking fact. FIFY, dumbass. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, concha said: This is soooooooooooooooooo weak even by your standards. concha has always considered the truth to be weak. He disdains it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, concha said: Note, Everyone, how Andy's retort to whether or not there is a booming economy uses DATES. 🤣 Not numbers/data. Why? It goes without saying. Everybody else understands the context. There was "nothing resembling a boom" on January 20th but then there *was* a boom by May 18th. Since there's nothing Trump could've done in less than 4 months to go from "nothing resembling a boom" to a boom then he, indeed, inherited a boom. By your own standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, concha said: By May of 2017, the first few months of Trump's residency, unemployment had dropped about half-a-point. That is 5x the drop that happened in Obama's last YEAR. Andy dodges this FACT. Because Andy is a turd. 💩 What's so wonderful about a low unemployment rate? On 1/13/2017 at 11:03 AM, concha said: So as not to disappoint you, I am curious as to why a 4.9% unemployment rate is wonderful when it is due largely to a shrinking labor pool and let's not forget the involuntary part-time jobs component (currently the better part of 6 million workers). Also, the unemployment rate dropped more by raw number and percentage under Obama than it did under Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, concha said: GDP growth was exceeding the last several quarters of Obama's presidency. Until it wasn't. And the growth was juiced by a trillion dollar unfunded tax cut. So you bankrupted the treasury for a .2% increase in growth that was wiped out by COVID-19. And you're bragging about it. Talk about clownish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, concha said: Jesucristo, Andy, PLEASE STOP HUMILIATING YOURSELF. I'm not. I'm humiliating you. With your own words. I know it chaps your ass that your track record is so embarrassing and easily accesible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, concha said: The stock market went UP the better part of 1,000 points from Trump's inauguration to the middle of May, 2017. If you go by the market immediately following Trump's election, the increase is about 3,000 points. Here's concha telling us that the stock market "booming" was a bad thing.......right before it was a good thing. On 1/25/2017 at 7:43 PM, concha said: The current stock market capitalization to GDP ratio is now at its highest point since the Dotcom Bubble bursting in 2000. On 1/25/2017 at 7:52 PM, concha said: My worry is that if the market doesn't slow and GDP growth pick up, we'll see another effing disaster. On 1/25/2017 at 8:02 PM, concha said: I've felt this way about the market for quite along time. We have years and years of lackluster GDP growth and our stock market surges. A recipe for disaster IMO. Likely to happen under Trump, but frankly I don't know what you can do right now to quickly remedy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, concha said: Well, first off, Andy doesn't know the difference between deficit and debt apparently. I referred to debt increase. I mean the depths of this guy's embarrassment never ceases. The annual increase to the debt is called.....the deficit. DEBT VS. DEFICITS: WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? The debt is the total amount of money the U.S. government owes. It represents the accumulation of past deficits, minus surpluses. concha gets caught bullshitting, again, and resorts to lazy sophistry that isn't even remotely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, concha said: Andy prances off to look at deficit I'm prancing all over your right now because you're such a liar and clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: concha has always considered the truth to be weak. He disdains it. This is the first of 8(!) consecutive responses by Andy. You know he's realizes just been owned when he spams like this. Andy, You literally just had the truth slap you around like a hooker late with her money. With actual data/facts. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, concha said: You know he's realizes just been owned when he spams like this. "I'm a liar who's been exposed so I double down on the lies and invent sophistic arguments to save face." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: sophistic Great word! Not many people know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: It goes without saying. Everybody else understands the context. There was "nothing resembling a boom" on January 20th but then there *was* a boom by May 18th. Since there's nothing Trump could've done in less than 4 months to go from "nothing resembling a boom" to a boom then he, indeed, inherit a boom. By your own standards. The stock market boom literally happened when the election happened and folks realized Trump would be president. 🤡 Dow Jones: June 1, 2016: 17,789 Sept 30, 2016: 18,308 Nov 4, 2016: 17,888 (Trump elected) Dec 1. 2016: 19,191 Jan 3, 2017: 19,881 May 15, 2017: 20,981 Like investors, who can do things almost instantly, companies began planning based on Trump's announced policies. Unemployment was virtually unchanged for at least the last 12 month under Obama and he did nothing to change that at the end of his term. Unless you can find some other magical reason for the unemployment rate to begin to decline after Obama left and to continue to do so until achieving lows not seen in about 60 years (which is when Covid hit). I'm happy to continue to demonstrate what a dishonest fool you are. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, concha said: The stock market boom literally happened when the election happened and folks realized Trump would be president. 🤡 So there was "nothing resembling a boom", then there was, but now it was already there. The stock market going up is bad, in fact you've been talking about it for "quite some time now", but now it was good. 😄 As we've discussed before, the stock market went up 150% under Obama. Somehow, a "boom" only came because Trump was elected. Does concha have an ounce of dignity left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: What's so wonderful about low a unemployment rate? Also, the unemployment rate dropped more by raw number and percentage under Obama than it did under Trump. And here's where CREEPY ANDY continues to desperately sift through ancient posts to try. Andy tries to bring in a separate argument completely out of context. Because he's a dishonest turd. For anyone interested, here's an article about the discussion Andy is trying to dishonestly reference. https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/22/the-truth-behind-obamas-job-numbers/ In the Obama years, the unemployment rate kept falling after 2010. That’s great. But the untold story was that the number of people moving from the living room couch into jobs was exceeded by the number who dropped out of the workforce, or, as was the case with millions of 20-somethings, never got a job. The strange thing about the Obama recovery was more jobs and less willing workers. When a person isn’t looking for a job, for whatever reason, they do not get labeled as unemployed. The joke a few years ago was that Obama would shrink the unemployment rate to zero through the magic formula of driving millions out of the workforce. In a world where everyone is living off of welfare or a trust fund, and no one is looking for a job — there are officially no unemployed people. Under Trump, we are experiencing the best of all worlds. Unemployment is down, and the labor force participation rate is finally starting to grow again, albeit still slower than needed. Some 2.3 million more people have entered the workforce under Trump. Part of the rise in the workforce is undoubtedly due to the steady increase in wages, which attracts workers to come off the sidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, concha said: Dow Jones: June 1, 2016: 17,789 Sept 30, 2016: 18,308 Nov 4, 2016: 17,888 (Trump elected) Dec 1. 2016: 19,191 Jan 3, 2017: 19,881 May 15, 2017: 20,981 Election day was November 8, 2016, dipshit. The market closed at 18,332.74 that day. Does concha say anything that's objectively true? Ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, concha said: I'm happy to continue to demonstrate what a dishonest fool you are Says the guy who cites the wrong day for election day and lies about a Trump boom. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, concha said: And here's where CREEPY ANDY continues to desperately sift through ancient posts to try. Want me to complete the thought? try......to expose your dishonesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: Until it wasn't. And the growth was juiced by a trillion dollar unfunded tax cut. So you bankrupted the treasury for a .2% increase in growth that was wiped out by COVID-19. And you're bragging about it. Talk about clownish. Andy continuing to advertise his dishonesty and ignorance. GDP growth for Trump's first three years exceeded that of the prior couple of years under Obama. And the debt to GDP ratio under Trump barely budged in that time (it grew 5% in Obama's last term, and just 2% under Trump until Covid). Andy is remarkable in his capacity to lie and distort, yet keep on truckin' when proven the fool. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, concha said: Andy tries to bring in a separate argument completely out of context. That's what you do. I'm merely using your own words against you. There's nothing at all honest about anything you say on this board. It's all in service of an agenda. You hate that your posts are archived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: I'm not. I'm humiliating you. With your own words. I know it chaps your ass that your track record is so embarrassing and easily accesible. 🤣 Your shit is LAUGHABLY easy to expose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: "I'm a liar who's been exposed so I double down on the lies and invent sophistic arguments to save face." Is this a first a step for you? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Election day was November 8, 2016, dipshit. The market closed at 18,332.74 that day. Does concha say anything that's objectively true? Ever? This is what Andy counts as a huge victory. Of course, the actual debate we're having is won (very easily) by me and a ~3,000 point stock market gain. But Andy nailed me on the election date!!!! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: Here's concha telling us that the stock market "booming" was a bad thing.......right before it was a good thing. My concerns about a stock market boom and whether it actually happened or not are two separate things, Andy. You obviously are not bright enough to understand that. LMAO 🤡 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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