dan in daytona Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Bartrum Trail 35 Mainland 24 In a game of big plays BT had a few more then the hometown Bucs. Counting the KOC loss to Apopka, Mainland hasn't started off a season like this since the last CENTURY. Our most reliable strength the WR's , dropped several critical passes tonight that gave BT a short field and put the Mainland "D" back on the field. The QB is still running for his life more often then not. Coaches might want to give the backups some reps cause odds are this young guy's not going to stay healthy. He throws a pretty ball WHEN HE HAS TIME. Running game is still a work in progress. Defense is tough, but a little small on the outside. To the DB's " AS DEEP AS THE DEEPEST MAN " ( Elementary Coverage 101 ). Kicker/Punter is strongest in years. Mainland is 0-1 with the "good in season opponents." Dr Phillips and Cocoa being the other two. 7-3 is a worse case scenario. District is weak and a top 4 regional seeding is a 99.9% lock. Tank Dell, Bucs most reliable WR, should be back for Friday's Treasure Coast contest. Great route runner, great hands. Interesting season so far.......#spoiledbuccaneer. Quote Edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan in daytona Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Bartrum Trail has a good passing offense. The big QB ( Auburn ) being the more dangerous one of the two. Surprisingly, their overall team speed isn't what you might think. Not an overly athletic team. They have a good coaching staff that gets the best out of what they got. They don't hurt themselves with silly mistakes. If they're the best in 7A north I would be surprised. But then again what the hell do I know......#oldman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 I was at both the BT vs Mainland and Mainland vs Apopka games. B Trail is the real deal on offense. On defense, their front 4 and linebackers are okay to very good. Their defensive weakness is in their secondary, which will give up a lot of points to an offense that has an effective passing game. In fact, but for Mainland's O Line providing poor protection for the QB and the receivers dropping a number of on the money passes, Mainland would have put several more points on the board. I could see B Trail making the state title game in 7A, but the going will be tough. I don't give them a realistic chance against St. Thomas Aquinas. They do have two very impressive quarterbacks. Regarding Mainland, there are a bit down this year. The QB has a good arm but lacks the mobility of last year's starter, Huston. And the Offensive Line, though big, is somewhat soft. Also, the defense, though solid, isn't nasty the way recent Mainland defenses have been. I think they are currently a bit overrated in both Florida and Nationally. Against Apopka in the KOC, they were down 26-0 late in the third, before making the final score a respectable 26-14.That said, they will win their district easily. With regards the playoffs, they have a rough road, as they may have to play: Carol City/Norland, Miami Northwestern and Miami Central in successive weeks to win the region. I could see them winning one of these games, but three, not likely. So I see them exiting in the first to second round, unless they improve significantly between now and then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Mainland is a tough read annually similar to Dwyer, Armwood, Lakeland and Dr Phillips in that they play so few quality teams it's hard to read how good they are. This is where Calpreps shines (and I wish they had a top 100 record stat, top 1000 is a start but would be ideal with further criteria). The latest dynasty is still just 4 years (13 thru 16 and no '17 games posted) but you get a feel here... http://calpreps.com/Florida_dynasty_ratings5.htm Annual playoff entries with some brand name status barely tested... % of games vs. a top 1000 opponent Mainland - 32% (17 of 53) Armwood - 28% (16 of 57) Dr Phillips - 25% (13 of 53) Lakeland - 24% (11 of 46) Dwyer - 17% (8 of 48) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 For the gicks and kiggles.... That game moved Bartram Trail to #68 nationally and Cartersville up to #37.... at CP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 52 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: For the gicks and kiggles.... That game moved Bartram Trail to #68 nationally and Cartersville up to #37.... at CP. Bartram trail 68th in nation? Guess i should feel proud, columbia put up 33 points with a backup qb on a top 100 in nation team, we must really be good but are we even considered to have a hope of winning our district? Nope Guess because we don't have a 4 star qb who runs like Tebow we not contenders, let me know when someone here reads between the lines and truly discovers what i meant behind that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 54 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Bartram trail 68th in nation? Guess i should feel proud, columbia put up 33 points with a backup qb on a top 100 in nation team, we must really be good but are we even considered to have a hope of winning our district? Nope Guess because we don't have a 4 star qb who runs like Tebow we not contenders, let me know when someone here reads between the lines and truly discovers what i meant behind that I dont see where you played BTrail. Please dont say a scrimmage... or I'll Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Just now, ECHS05 said: I dont see where you played BTrail. Please dont say a scrimmage... or I'll Lol. He's talking about when B Trail butt drilled them in the spring game. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Nolebull813 said: He's talking about when B Trail butt drilled them in the spring game. Lol. Bull you need to redefine what a blowout is We played with our starting qb as well as 5-10 players injured and still put up 33 points, that game was by no means a blowout You can spin it however you want but i actually was at the game so i know what happened firsthand and i doubt you were at the game so i obviously would know how the game went far better than someone who just looked at final score after the fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 Only correct thing nolebull said was that the game was the spring game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 And the final score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: And the final score? 51-33 So 16 point difference when we were playing with 5-10 players out including our starting qb I feel confident we could beat them in a rematch considering last time we played them in a game that did count for something more than just a spring matchup it was 51-14 Columbia win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Columbiafan said: 51-33 So 16 point difference when we were playing with 5-10 players out including our starting qb I feel confident we could beat them in a rematch considering last time we played them in a game that did count for something more than just a spring matchup it was 51-14 Columbia win Thats an 18 point difference. Not 16. Lmao... That was 2 years ago dude... in 2015. 51-14... ffs. 2 years ago, the same year Columbia beat BTrail... Mainland beat BTrail 56-24... by 32. This year, which is what matters, BTrail beat Mainland 35-24. What happened 2 years ago has absolutely NOTHING to do with this year... that should go without saying, but apparently you think the 2 completely different years are related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 24 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Thats an 18 point difference. Not 16. Lmao... That was 2 years ago dude... in 2015. 51-14... ffs. 2 years ago, the same year Columbia beat BTrail... Mainland beat BTrail 56-24... by 32. This year, which is what matters, BTrail beat Mainland 35-24. What happened 2 years ago has absolutely NOTHING to do with this year... that should go without saying, but apparently you think the 2 completely different years are related. Explain to me this What evidence do you have that 2017 bartram trail can beat 2017 Columbia since the spring game probably has little importance to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Unless you think how we did without our full team shows we can't win which would hold as much ground as 2 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Columbiafan said: Explain to me this What evidence do you have that 2017 bartram trail can beat 2017 Columbia since the spring game probably has little importance to you Because BTrail is better than Columbia. BTrail is a lot better than they were in 2015. Sorry to tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Whatever ... I really dont care that much. Its just obvious you dont know since your rankings read... 10. Mainland 39. Bartram Trail And BTrail proceeded to beat your #10 35-24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, ECHS05 said: Because BTrail is better than Columbia. BTrail is a lot better than they were in 2015. Sorry to tell you. Based on what? You say the better i want to see how you support it And they don't look that much better than 2015, yeah offense more mature but secondary sucked in 2015 and still does in 2017 Only real difference between the 2 teams is gatewood and Riley Smith are seniors and far better developed then 2 years ago, outside of that rest of team looks no better than 2 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 1 hour ago, ECHS05 said: Whatever ... I really dont care that much. Its just obvious you dont know since your rankings read... 10. Mainland 39. Bartram Trail And BTrail proceeded to beat your #10 35-24. And you can show me 1 single ranking that don't have a team too high? I'm waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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