Whiteshoes Top 100 - November 28

[whiteshoes]

1.       Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (11-0)

2.       Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (12-1)

3.       Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (9-0)

4.       Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (12-0)

5.       Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (11-2)

6.       Galena Park (TX) North Shore (12-0)

7.       Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (11-1)

8.       DeSoto (TX) (12-0)

9.       Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (12-1)

10.   Austin (TX) Westlake (13-0)

11.   Duncanville (TX) (11-1)

12.   Marietta (GA) Walton (13-0)

13.   Corona (CA) Centennial (9-3)

14.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage (11-1)    

15.   San Mateo (CA) Serra (12-0)

16.   Massillon (OH) Washington (15-0)   

17.   Peoria (AZ) Liberty (11-1)

18.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (14-1)

19.   Miami (FL) Norland (13-0)

20.   Saraland (AL) (13-0)

21.   Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County (12-1)

22.   Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (13-1)

23.   Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (10-1)  

24.   Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (14-0)

25.   Toledo (OH) Central Catholic (14-0)

26.   Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon (11-1)

27.   Peoria (AZ) Centennial (11-1)

28.   Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (12-1)

29.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville (12-0)

30.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (10-1)

31.   Trophy Club (TX) Byron Nelson (13-0)

32.   Buford (GA) (11-2)  

33.   Bixby (OK) (12-0)

34.   Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek (13-0)

35.   Aledo (TX) (13-0)

36.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson (11-1)

37.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (13-1)

38.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (9-2)

39.   Southlake (TX) Carroll (12-1)

40.   Phenix City (AL) Central (12-0)

41.   Gainesville (GA) (12-1)  

42.   Florence (SC) South Florence (14-0)

43.   Woodbridge (VA) Freedom (12-0)

44.   Yelm (WA) (13-0)

45.   Belleville (MI) (13-1)

46.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel (13-1)

47.   Miami (FL) Columbus (11-2)

48.   Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter (13-0)

49.   Cocoa (FL) (12-1)

50.   Harrisburg (PA) Bishop McDevitt (13-0)

51.   Norfolk (VA) Maury (13-0)

52.   Carrollton (GA) (11-2)

53.   Indianapolis (IN) Ben Davis (13-1)

54.   Concord (CA) De La Salle (10-2)

55.   Miami (FL) Central (7-4)

56.   Portland (OR) Central Catholic (13-0)

57.   El Cajon (CA) Granite Hills (12-0)

58.   Wexford (PA) North Allegheny (12-1)

59.   Chandler (AZ) Basha (10-2)

60.   Milton (GA) (11-2)

61.   Miami (FL) Booker T. Washington (8-3)

62.   West Linn (OR) (11-1)

63.   Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (11-2)

64.   Louisville (MS) (14-0)

65.   Little Rock (AR) Parkview (13-0)

66.   Liberty (MO) North (12-1) 

67.   Southfield (MI) Arts and Tech (13-1)

68.   Loganville (GA) Grayson (11-2)

69.   Kahuku (HI) (10-2)

70.   Lafayette (LA) St. Thomas More (12-0)

71.   Avon (OH) (13-1)

72.   Folsom (CA) (11-2)

73.   Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff (11-2)

74.   San Diego (CA) Lincoln (11-1)

75.   Lehi (UT) Skybridge (11-3)

76.   Frankfort (IL) Lincoln-Way East (13-1)

77.   Charlotte (NC) Providence Day (12-1)

78.   Carlsbad (CA) (10-1)

79.   Cibolo (TX) Steele (12-1)

80.   American Fork (UT) (11-2)

81.   Brownsburg (IN) (9-1)

82.   Katy (TX) (10-2)

83.   Midwest City (OK) Carl Albert (13-0)

84.   Chattanooga (TN) McAllie (11-1)

85.   Ruston (LA) (11-1)

86.   Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding (10-2)

87.   Littleton (CO) Columbine (13-0)

88.   Hattiesburg (MS) Oak Grove (12-1)

89.   Pittsburgh (PA) Central Catholic (10-2)

90.   Omaha (NE) Westside (13-0)

91.   Rabun Gap (GA) Rabun Gap-Nacoochee (13-1)

92.   Martinsburg (WV) (12-0)

93.   Mililani (HI) (10-2)

94.   Orlando (FL) Edgewater (11-1)

95.   Baltimore (MD) St. Francis (4-6)

96.   Graham-Kapowsin (WA) (13-0)

97.   Fresno (CA) Clovis North (13-0)

98.   Matthews (NC) Weddington (12-2)

99.   Dripping Springs (TX) (10-2)

100.  Fayetteville (AR) (12-0)

[Horsefly]

1 hour ago, whiteshoes said:

1.       Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (11-0)

2.       Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (12-1)

3.       Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (9-0)

4.       Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (12-0)

5.       Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (11-2)

6.       Galena Park (TX) North Shore (12-0)

7.       Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (11-1)

8.       DeSoto (TX) (12-0)

9.       Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (12-1)

10.   Austin (TX) Westlake (13-0)

11.   Duncanville (TX) (11-1)

12.   Marietta (GA) Walton (13-0)

13.   Corona (CA) Centennial (9-3)

14.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage (11-1)    

15.   San Mateo (CA) Serra (12-0)

16.   Massillon (OH) Washington (15-0)   

17.   Peoria (AZ) Liberty (11-1)

18.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (14-1)

19.   Miami (FL) Norland (13-0)

20.   Saraland (AL) (13-0)

21.   Norman Park (GA) Colquitt County (12-1)

22.   Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (13-1)

23.   Olney (MD) Our Lady of Good Counsel (10-1)  

24.   Wilmette (IL) Loyola Academy (14-0)

25.   Toledo (OH) Central Catholic (14-0)

26.   Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon (11-1)

27.   Peoria (AZ) Centennial (11-1)

28.   Hochston (GA) Mill Creek (12-1)

29.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville (12-0)

30.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (10-1)

31.   Trophy Club (TX) Byron Nelson (13-0)

32.   Buford (GA) (11-2)  

33.   Bixby (OK) (12-0)

34.   Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek (13-0)

35.   Aledo (TX) (13-0)

36.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson (11-1)

37.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (13-1)

38.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (9-2)

39.   Southlake (TX) Carroll (12-1)

40.   Phenix City (AL) Central (12-0)

41.   Gainesville (GA) (12-1)  

42.   Florence (SC) South Florence (14-0)

43.   Woodbridge (VA) Freedom (12-0)

44.   Yelm (WA) (13-0)

45.   Belleville (MI) (13-1)

46.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel (13-1)

47.   Miami (FL) Columbus (11-2)

48.   Philadelphia (PA) Imhotep Charter (13-0)

49.   Cocoa (FL) (12-1)

50.   Harrisburg (PA) Bishop McDevitt (13-0)

51.   Norfolk (VA) Maury (13-0)

52.   Carrollton (GA) (11-2)

53.   Indianapolis (IN) Ben Davis (13-1)

54.   Concord (CA) De La Salle (10-2)

55.   Miami (FL) Central (7-4)

56.   Portland (OR) Central Catholic (13-0)

57.   El Cajon (CA) Granite Hills (12-0)

58.   Wexford (PA) North Allegheny (12-1)

59.   Chandler (AZ) Basha (10-2)

60.   Milton (GA) (11-2)

61.   Miami (FL) Booker T. Washington (8-3)

62.   West Linn (OR) (11-1)

63.   Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (11-2)

64.   Louisville (MS) (14-0)

65.   Little Rock (AR) Parkview (13-0)

66.   Liberty (MO) North (12-1) 

67.   Southfield (MI) Arts and Tech (13-1)

68.   Loganville (GA) Grayson (11-2)

69.   Kahuku (HI) (10-2)

70.   Lafayette (LA) St. Thomas More (12-0)

71.   Avon (OH) (13-1)

72.   Folsom (CA) (11-2)

73.   Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff (11-2)

74.   San Diego (CA) Lincoln (11-1)

75.   Lehi (UT) Skybridge (11-3)

76.   Frankfort (IL) Lincoln-Way East (13-1)

77.   Charlotte (NC) Providence Day (12-1)

78.   Carlsbad (CA) (10-1)

79.   Cibolo (TX) Steele (12-1)

80.   American Fork (UT) (11-2)

81.   Brownsburg (IN) (9-1)

82.   Katy (TX) (10-2)

83.   Midwest City (OK) Carl Albert (13-0)

84.   Chattanooga (TN) McAllie (11-1)

85.   Ruston (LA) (11-1)

86.   Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding (10-2)

87.   Littleton (CO) Columbine (13-0)

88.   Hattiesburg (MS) Oak Grove (12-1)

89.   Pittsburgh (PA) Central Catholic (10-2)

90.   Omaha (NE) Westside (13-0)

91.   Rabun Gap (GA) Rabun Gap-Nacoochee (13-1)

92.   Martinsburg (WV) (12-0)

93.   Mililani (HI) (10-2)

94.   Orlando (FL) Edgewater (11-1)

95.   Baltimore (MD) St. Francis (4-6)

96.   Graham-Kapowsin (WA) (13-0)

97.   Fresno (CA) Clovis North (13-0)

98.   Matthews (NC) Weddington (12-2)

99.   Dripping Springs (TX) (10-2)

100.  Fayetteville (AR) (12-0)

In Texas, I’d have the order of teams to consider ranking: 

 

north shore

Desoto

duncanville 

westlake

summer creek

north crowley

Atascocita

byron Nelson 

SLC 

westfield 

 

 

 

 

 

[Omaha Vol]

4 hours ago, Horsefly said:

In Texas, I’d have the order of teams to consider ranking: 

 

north shore

Desoto

duncanville 

westlake

summer creek

north crowley

Atascocita

byron Nelson 

SLC 

westfield 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure I want to jump on Westfield just yet. I’ll have mine out tomorrow evening. Wanted to make sure Bergen Cath. took care of business with Delby. 

[Horsefly]

6 hours ago, Omaha Vol said:

Not sure I want to jump on Westfield just yet. I’ll have mine out tomorrow evening. Wanted to make sure Bergen Cath. took care of business with Delby. 

Their only 2 losses are to Hightower and north shore. With an impressive playoff win over Rockwall. 

[whiteshoes]

12 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Their only 2 losses are to Hightower and north shore. With an impressive playoff win over Rockwall. 

Agree that the Rockwall game was an eye-opener, but it seems like every time I jump on the Westfield bandwagon I get burned.  With Duncanville on the horizon, I am in a wait and see posture.

[whiteshoes]

Here is my current Texas top 20

1	Houston North Shore (12-0)
2	DeSoto (12-0)
3	Austin Westlake (13-0)
4	Duncanville (11-1)
5	Trophy Club Byron Nelson (13-0)
6	Aledo (13-0)
7	Southlake Carroll (12-1)
8	Dallas South Oak Cliff (11-2)
9	Cibolo Steele (12-1)
10	Katy (10-2)
11	Dripping Springs (10-2)
12	Austin Lake Travis (11-2)
13	Carthage (13-0)
14	Houston Summer Creek (12-1)
15	Cypress Cy-Fair (11-2)
16	Colleyville Heritage (12-1)
17	Dallas Highland Park (11-2)
18	Austin Vandegrift (10-1)
19	Fort Worth North Crowley (13-0)
20	Houston Westfield (11-2)

[Horsefly]

1 hour ago, whiteshoes said:

Agree that the Rockwall game was an eye-opener, but it seems like every time I jump on the Westfield bandwagon I get burned.  With Duncanville on the horizon, I am in a wait and see posture.

Ok, but you have  Katy and teams similar to them ranked. Katy lost to a no name team in cy fair that was just blasted by north shore. At least Westfield will get the opportunity to play a team like Duncanville 

[Atticus Finch]

1 hour ago, Horsefly said:

With an impressive playoff win over Rockwall. 

Impossible.

[Atticus Finch]

1 hour ago, whiteshoes said:

Agree that the Rockwall game was an eye-opener, 

What exactly was is that opened your eyes?

Was it the 78 points they scored? Or was it the 48 points that they conceded?

Tough call.

[RedZone]

1 hour ago, whiteshoes said:

13 Carthage (13-0)

The myth lives.

4A Carthage has never defeated or played a 6A team in Texas, not that I see.

That's the problem with these Texas small schools. They never schedule up to 6A and play mediocre 5A teams sometimes and struggle with them.

What are you going to do, it's the internet.

 

[Horsefly]

2 hours ago, whiteshoes said:

Here is my current Texas top 20

1	Houston North Shore (12-0)
2	DeSoto (12-0)
3	Austin Westlake (13-0)
4	Duncanville (11-1)
5	Trophy Club Byron Nelson (13-0)
6	Aledo (13-0) way too high
7	Southlake Carroll (12-1)
8	Dallas South Oak Cliff (11-2) way too high
9	Cibolo Steele (12-1)too high
10	Katy (10-2) doesn’t belong
11	Dripping Springs (10-2) too high
12	Austin Lake Travis (11-2)
13	Carthage (13-0)doesn’t belong
14	Houston Summer Creek (12-1)way too low
15	Cypress Cy-Fair (11-2) doesn’t belong
16	Colleyville Heritage (12-1)doesn’t belong
17	Dallas Highland Park (11-2)doesn’t belong
18	Austin Vandegrift (10-1)
19	Fort Worth North Crowley (13-0)way too low
20	Houston Westfield (11-2) way too low

 

[SeaShells21]

5 hours ago, Horsefly said:

 

I’m not so hot on Westlake just yet either. They’re top 20, just not 3. 

10-15 range maybe.

[Horsefly]

20 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said:

I’m not so hot on Westlake just yet either. They’re top 20, just not 3. 

10-15 range maybe.

So you think there are 10+ teams better than WL? (If they pull out a close win v LT then I would agree. I’m not high on LT) 

 

what does your TX top 15 look like? 

[Omaha Vol]

58 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

So you think there are 10+ teams better than WL? (If they pull out a close win v LT then I would agree. I’m not high on LT) 

 

what does your TX top 15 look like? 

I wouldn’t knock them down too far for a close game with an arch rival. 

[Horsefly]

14 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said:

I wouldn’t knock them down too far for a close game with an arch rival. 

Nah, LT isn’t all that. If WL is a legit top 4 team they should beat LT by 2-3 TDs. If not, they’re probably in the 7/8 range. (Behind NS, DS, DV, winner of SLC/BN, summer creek and N Crowley) 

[Omaha Vol]

1 hour ago, Horsefly said:

Nah, LT isn’t all that. If WL is a legit top 4 team they should beat LT by 2-3 TDs. If not, they’re probably in the 7/8 range. (Behind NS, DS, DV, winner of SLC/BN, summer creek and N Crowley) 

I have them at #5 in Texas right now.

[Horsefly]

34 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said:

I have them at #5 in Texas right now.

That’s a reasonable spot. 

[SeaShells21]

6 hours ago, Horsefly said:

So you think there are 10+ teams better than WL? (If they pull out a close win v LT then I would agree. I’m not high on LT) 

 

what does your TX top 15 look like? 

DeSoto 

Duncanville

North Shore

North Crowley

Byron Nelson

Southlake Carroll

Summer Creek

Atascocita

Westlake - I’ve been kind of hard of them ever since their first close game against Ridge Point.

Then close games with Lake Travis and Dripping Springs. Maybe I’m being too critical of them but I think most of the teams above win a more convincing game than Westlake did.

Coppell

South Oak Cliff

Hightower

Willis

Lake Travis

Cedar Hill

 

 

[Horsefly]

38 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said:

DeSoto 

Duncanville

North Shore

North Crowley

Byron Nelson

Southlake Carroll

Summer Creek

Atascocita

Westlake - I’ve been kind of hard of them ever since their first close game against Ridge Point.

Then close games with Lake Travis and Dripping Springs. Maybe I’m being too critical of them but I think most of the teams above win a more convincing game than Westlake did.

Coppell

South Oak Cliff

Hightower

Willis

Lake Travis

Cedar Hill

 

 

Westlake went through a QB transition early, so this will be the first time LT plays the new starter for a full game. I’m curious to see how much their offense n team has improved (if any)