concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Guccifer said: No it hasn't. Another moment in concha dishonesty. In Obama's last 7 years, the rate declined from 16.1% to 7.8% which was a rate of about 1.3% per year. Since Trump's inauguration the rate has dropped from 7.8% to 6.8% which is a drop of exactly 1.0% Another craven lie from concha. Awesome. Canes is up for another pummeling. Trump didn't inherit a rate of reduction from 7 years ago. Or 6. Or 5. or 4. In the last 12 months of Obama's presidency, the U3 rate reduced a net grand total of 0.1%. The U6 rate went down 0.5%. Hand-off... In the less than a year of measurements since Trump has been in office, the U3 rate has dropped 0.7% and the U6 by 1.3%. Put another way, using the U6 as an example, under Obama the rate went from 9.9% to 9.4% (0.5%). That is a <5.1% change. Under Trump, it has gone from 9.4% to 8.1%. That is a 13.8% reduction. The difference for U3 is even more pronounced in Trump's favor. As we've seen the last few days, reading graphs and simple math are tough for Canes. All day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, concha said: Awesome. Canes is up for another pummeling. Trump didn't inherit a rate of reduction from 7 years ago. Or 6. Or 5. or 4. In the last 12 months of Obama's presidency, the U3 rate reduced a net grand total of 0.1%. The U6 rate went down 0.5%. Hand-off... In the less than a year of measurements since Trump has been in office, the U3 rate has dropped 0.7% and the U6 by 1.3%. Put another way, using the U6 as an example, under Obama the rate went from 9.9% to 9.4% (0.5%). That is a <5.1% change. Under Trump, it has gone from 9.4% to 8.1%. That is a 13.8% reduction. The difference for U3 is even more pronounced in Trump's favor. As we've seen the last few days, reading graphs and simple math are tough for Canes. All day. It's easy to tell when concha's in panic mode. He goes on long rants to try to save face. It's easier to know when he's lying. He just posts one-liners like "the rate has accelerated under Trump." Dead giveaway that it's a lie. https://www.factcheck.org/2018/01/trump-takes-undue-credit-black-unemployment/ In other words, the downward trend has continued under Trump, albeit at a slower pace than in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, concha said: Awesome. Canes is up for another pummeling. This is like a reflex reaction now. Maybe it's just a way for you to pump yourself up for the inevitable debunking that will expose your next lie. Who knows. What's certain is that you just lied and that you will lie again about the same topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Guccifer said: A comprehensive listing of concha's lies (so far): Mueller's investigation has resulted in "bupkus" Pretty much, yes. Bupkus. Trump does not think that legal immigration is a problem He doesn't. That's why he isn't proposing we eliminate it. So who's lying? People started looking for work again under Trump Certainly at least in the month in question they did. Even the liberal rag WaPo agrees with me. Do they agree with you? 25-54 demographic saw largest reduction in Labor Participation Rate This proved untrue. Just as your claim that the LFPR declines were just the result of Baby Boomer retirement was untrue. In the end, my original point is still true: Obama's unemployment rate reductions during his term were amplified by a shrinking workforce. Concha right. Canes wrong. Black unemployment reductions accelerated under Trump It has. Since Cane's schtick is screaming "lie" all the time, let's give Canes the Canes treatment. Just an assortment of recent lies by Canes: Trump thinks legal immigration is a problem. In fact, he supports legal immigration. No calls to eliminate it, just simple common-sense changes. That I made an inaccurate claim about more people looking for work under Trump. My statement was in reference to a particular month and is entirely true. That Obama's unemployment rate declines are unrelated to the labor force participation rate. A colossal Canes lie. They are. It's simple math. When the size of the labor force declines in relation a number of people unemployed, the unemployment rate reduces. Simple math. Canes is a liar. That unemployment rate declines have not accelerated under Trump. Absurd. As stated above, the U3 rate declined just 0.1% in Obama's final 12 months and Trump's reduction stands at 0.7% in just 11 months. Check for yourselves just what a shameless liar Canes is: http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate.jsp Use of foreign unemployment data presented as our own. Canes used another country's unemployment data and was caught. Even after being called out he used it AGAIN. He counts on people not checking, just seeing how may times he squeals "LIE!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, concha said: Since Cane's schtick is screaming "lie" all the time .....and then proving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Guccifer said: .....and then proving it. Or being proven to be a liar himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, concha said: He doesn't. That's why he isn't proposing we eliminate it This is one of conch's funniest lies. He said that legal immigration is not a problem. Then when I pointed out that this wasn't the position of the Trump Administration, he responded with all of the reasons and methods that Trump was going to use to "reform" the system. On 1/30/2018 at 6:23 PM, concha said: He is anti chain migration and pro merit-based migration. That is hardly anti legal migration. On 1/30/2018 at 6:40 PM, concha said: Wanting an end to a stupid lottery-based system and desire to shift from chain immigration to merit-based immigration is in no way being "anti legal immigration". On 1/30/2018 at 6:42 PM, concha said: The desire to reform legal immigration does not make someone "against" legal immigration, you buffoon. So he went from "legal immigration is a not a problem" to "of course Trump wants to reform this stupid system!" So among the PROBLEMS he has with legal immigration: Chain migration Merit VISA Lottery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Guccifer said: It's easy to tell when concha's in panic mode. He goes on long rants to try to save face. It's easier to know when he's lying. He just posts one-liners like "the rate has accelerated under Trump." Dead giveaway that it's a lie. https://www.factcheck.org/2018/01/trump-takes-undue-credit-black-unemployment/ In other words, the downward trend has continued under Trump, albeit at a slower pace than in recent years. Simple math. If you wish talk about black unemployment in specific, it dropped 1.0% from Feb-Dec 2016, from 8.9% to 7.9%. It also dropped 1.0% for he same period in 2017, from 7.8% to 6.8%. Math test: Which is greater? 1.8%/8.9%? or 1.0%/7.8%? Take your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, concha said: Certainly at least in the month in question they did. Even the liberal rag WaPo agrees with me. Do they agree with you? concha doing what he does best (other than lie). And that's pass the buck. The LFPR was the same in 2014 as it was in July 2017. In 2014 you were bashing Obama ceaselessly for an ever-diminishing unemployment number. But in 2017, when the unemployment rate went UP you defended Trump because more people were looking for work. Blatant, documented dishonesty. Then you blame the WAPO when in the past you've ignored facts in news stories because it didn't fir your narrative. You are just a fire hose of lies and deflection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Guccifer said: This is one of conch's funniest lies. He said that legal immigration is not a problem. Then when I pointed out that this wasn't the position of the Trump Administration, he responded with all of the reasons and methods that Trump was going to use to "reform" the system. So he went from "illegal immigration is a not a problem" to "of course Trump wants to reform this stupid system!" So among the PROBLEMS he has with legal immigration: Chain migration Merit VISA Lottery You stated that that he thinks legal immigration is a problem. Problems should be eliminated, right? The why isn't Trump calling for an end to legal immigration? It isn't rocket surgery. If you had simply been honest and said "Trump has a problem with chain migration" then I would have agreed wholeheartedly. The problem is that you are intellectually dishonest and wish to portray Trump as having a problem with legal immigration writ large. That is a Canes lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, concha said: Simple math. This is your response every time you are caught in a lie. A reputable news source of fact check group proves you wrong and then you just spout out something about math. Newsflash: You suck at math. And you lied so freely that you must be a sociopath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Guccifer said: concha doing what he does best (other than lie). And that's pass the buck. The LFPR was the same in 2014 as it was in July 2017. In 2014 you were bashing Obama ceaselessly for an ever-diminishing unemployment number. But in 2017, when the unemployment rate went UP you defended Trump because more people were looking for work. Blatant, documented dishonesty. Then you blame the WAPO when in the past you've ignored facts in news stories because it didn't fir your narrative. You are just a fire hose of lies and deflection. Canes being a a liar and intellectually dishonest. The reference was to a specific month. Yawn. Canes lying. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, concha said: You stated that that he thinks legal immigration is a problem. Problems should be eliminated, right? No, this is where your dishonesty and inability to win argument come in. If something is a problem, you fix it. Many problems can't be eliminated. But they can be addressed. Trump is addressing what he believes is a problem. Simple enough for people who aren't trying to lie all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, concha said: The why isn't Trump calling for an end to legal immigration? Again, you keep trying to hide in this flawed argument. Flimsy as hell. But when you're a lying machine, you do what you have to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Guccifer said: This is your response every time you are caught in a lie. A reputable news source of fact check group proves you wrong and then you just spout out something about math. Newsflash: You suck at math. And you lied so freely that you must be a sociopath. The data is there. Is it inaccurate? Unlike a liar such as you I use actual US data. The math is simple. Use a calculator, though a 9 year old could see the answer in his head. My conclusion correct. Lie away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, concha said: If you had simply been honest and said "Trump has a problem with chain migration" then I would have agreed wholeheartedly. Trump has a problem with legal immigration. Fact. You do agree because you spent at least three separate posts explaining his problems with it. You're just a serial liar. Everybody knows this about you, concha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Guccifer said: Again, you keep trying to hide in this flawed argument. Flimsy as hell. But when you're a lying machine, you do what you have to do. You are a liar who can't address the question: If what you state is correct, why isn't Trump calling for an end to it? <<Jeopardy music queued>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, concha said: The data is there. Is it inaccurate? No, you just ignore it so you can lie. This has been posted several times and you just ignore it and continue lying. A similar drop of 1 percentage point was recorded during the same 11-month period in 2016. The drop was even more pronounced in each of the three years before that. It fell 1.9 percentage points in 2015, 1.5 percentage points in 2014 and 1.8 percentage points in 2013. In other words, the downward trend has continued under Trump, albeit at a slower pace than in recent years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, concha said: Canes being a a liar and intellectually dishonest. The reference was to a specific month. And the LFPR was 62.8% in a specific month in 2014. You bashed Obama repeatedly when he had the same data. Why? Because you are an agenda-pushing liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Guccifer said: No, this is where your dishonesty and inability to win argument come in. If something is a problem, you fix it. Many problems can't be eliminated. But they can be addressed. Trump is addressing what he believes is a problem. Simple enough for people who aren't trying to lie all the time. Trump thinks chain immigration is a problem: TRUE Trump thinks legal immigration is a problem: FALSE Simple. So why is it so hard for you, Canes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, concha said: Unlike a liar such as you I use actual US data. It's funny because you have to desperately grasp for an out. I've posted more data debunking you on this than you have on any single subject. You just keep ignoring and claiming "Math!" while the facts still stand and you still lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Guccifer said: No, you just ignore it so you can lie. This has been posted several times and you just ignore it and continue lying. A similar drop of 1 percentage point was recorded during the same 11-month period in 2016. The drop was even more pronounced in each of the three years before that. It fell 1.9 percentage points in 2015, 1.5 percentage points in 2014 and 1.8 percentage points in 2013. In other words, the downward trend has continued under Trump, albeit at a slower pace than in recent years. Trump didn't inherit a rate of reduction from several years ago. Your intellectual dishonesty is so brazen it's comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Guccifer said: It's funny because you have to desperately grasp for an out. I've posted more data debunking you on this than you have on any single subject. You just keep ignoring and claiming "Math!" while the facts still stand and you still lie. Laughable. Your inability to do simple math is not my problem. You definitely work for the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted February 1, 2018 Report Share Posted February 1, 2018 14 hours ago, concha said: And the reductions accelerated under Trump. 1 hour ago, Guccifer said: In Obama's last 7 years, the rate declined from 16.1% to 7.8% which was a rate of about 1.3% per year. Since Trump's inauguration the rate has dropped from 7.8% to 6.8% which is a drop of exactly 1.0% Another craven lie from concha. Despite this thorough debunking this is his response: 7 minutes ago, concha said: My conclusion correct. concha lies. Then he;s debunked. Then he screams "math" and posts a paragraph long dodge before claiming that he's still correct. Lather, rinse, repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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