Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 hours ago, concha said: No, the post was March. Now is a year in, dumbass. LMAO... This is your response to my mashup of posts that I quoted from 2017. 8 hours ago, concha said: And the last one I listed good news. And a year in it's very good news. Either you're incredibly inarticulate or you are confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, concha said: You are such an intellectually dishonest sack of crap. Contrary to your archived quotes exposing your lying agenda and craven dishonesty. Unemployment goes down = Obama has nothing to do with it Unemployment does down = Trump turned things around quickly! Unemployment goes up = people are looking for work again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Guccifer said: The rate fell steadily since 2000 as has been demonstrated. Baby Boomers were retiring. Most of the decline has been prime working age folks age 25-54. This is where, again, I know WTF I'm talking about and you look like a fool. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Guccifer said: This is your response to my mashup of posts that I quoted from 2017. Either you're incredibly inarticulate or you are confused. Or you are stupid and/or purposefully obtuse. I'll go with those seeing as you are so knowledgeable that you can't even recognize UK economic data titled "UK" versus US data. Twice. The second time after already having your dumbass error pointed out to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, concha said: All that means is that the unemployment numbers on those months would have been worse had the LFPR rate not dropped. It means that the LFPR rate was going down independent of those factors. In fact, as has been demonstrated repeatedly, it had been going down since 2000. Then it actually "stabilized" in 2013 (according to you) which would be the middle of Obama's term. So you blamed him for something that predated his term by many years and then you continued to blame him even though you yourself said it stabilized in the middle of his term. The average person reading this can easily see your track record of lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, concha said: Same old Canes schtick. Yes, I meticulously expose your manipulations and lies and then you claims jazz hands and chap asses. Rinse, repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Guccifer said: Now we get to the real dishonesty that you've displayed in the past. The craven opportunism and willingness to lie to sell your agenda. Blaming Obama explicitly for the rate going gown despite all rational analysis to the contrary. The rate started falling in 2000 and actually stopped falling in the middle of Obama's term. But concha claims, fantastically, that Obama caused it to plummet (without any evidence) and then gets caught in a lie about when it ended. Is concha capable of even a moment of honesty? This where YOU lie. Pointing out the effect of the dropping LFPR is not "blaming". It is simple fact. Data. This is your MO, twisting and distorting in order to call your opponent a liar. You are exposed. And demonstrably ignorant and stupid. All day...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, concha said: Most of the decline has been prime working age folks age 25-54. concha, you've lied about this before and were exposed on the age range. I believe on this very forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Guccifer said: It means that the LFPR rate was going down independent of those factors. In fact, as has been demonstrated repeatedly, it had been going down since 2000. Then it actually "stabilized" in 2013 (according to you) which would be the middle of Obama's term. So you blamed him for something that predated his term by many years and then you continued to blame him even though you yourself said it stabilized in the middle of his term. The average person reading this can easily see your track record of lies. And the lies and distortions continue from Canes. What "factors"? You mentioned none. All you do is show your ignorance. The impact of the LFPR on unemployment is MATH. Take a class. And the reduction in the 8 prior to Obama was ~1% in 8 years. It then dropped ~3x that under Obama. My HONEST graph showed what your DISHONESTLY cropped graph does not. All day..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Canes approaching 11/9/16 melt level here. Still a top-drawer videographer tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 12 hours ago, RedZone said: That's the plan. Wife bought this huge King Cake this afternoon. Going to get into it. I'm going to eat a couple pieces, down a couple cups of coffee and listen to how great we are doing and how great trump is from trump. I really hope the man can help himself a little. This ain't the cake, but you get the idea. Does King Cake have a little toy king in it somewhere? Is it good luck or something if your piece of cake has the miniature king in it? Sorry if this has already been answered by Canes or Concha, but I haven't read all the posts in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, concha said: Most of the decline has been prime working age folks age 25-54. I remember your lie now after looking at the chart. I remember this debunking very specifically. You lied about the age group with the greatest decline. Ages 25-54 saw a minor decrease since 1996. But 16-24 saw the largest percentage decrease. Because, as some people might know, the LFPR counts every civilian from 16 to infinity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 concha flip flops as much as trump....nothing else to see here. The ‘phony’ employment numbers During the campaign, Trump often questioned the accuracy of the employment numbers published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. While the official unemployment rate was about 5 percent, Trump claimed it was really 22 percent or even as high as 42 percent. In a speech to the Economic Club of Detroit on Aug. 8, Trump said the unemployment rate was “one of the biggest hoaxes in modern American politics.” On many other occasions, he derided the figures calculated by career economists as “phony.” Indeed, this was not just a position he held during the campaign, but something he had expressed forcefully on Twitter for years. Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump 7.8% unemployment number is a complete fraud as evidenced by the jobless claims number released yesterday.Real unemployment is at least 15% 2:32 PM - Oct 19, 2012 But all of that seemed to be forgotten once the jobs report of the first full month under Trump was released on March 10. Trump quickly retweeted a Drudge Report headline: DRUDGE REPORT@DRUDGE_REPORT GREAT AGAIN: +235,000 http://bloom.bg/2mqYtUJ 7:41 AM - Mar 10, 2017 U.S. Jobs, Pay Show Solid Gains in Trump's First Full Month U.S. employers added jobs at an above-average pace for a second month on outsize (Our colleague Philip Bump took a nice look at how the recent BLS numbers could be interpreted under the criteria that Trump used in the campaign.) White House press secretary Sean Spicer was asked about this contradiction at a news briefing after the report’s release. His response: “I talked to the president prior to this and he said to quote him very clearly. They may have been phony in the past, but it’s very real now.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: Does King Cake have a little toy king in it somewhere? Is it good luck or something if your piece of cake has the miniature king in it? Sorry if this has already been answered by Canes or Concha, but I haven't read all the posts in this thread. Yeah, a little toy baby....if you get the baby in your piece of cake you have to buy the next King Cake. Suppose to anyways. Some think it means good luck or you might become pregnant........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 35 minutes ago, concha said: Pointing out the effect of the dropping LFPR is not "blaming". It is simple fact. Data. Labor Participation Rate in 2014 = 62.8% You claimed that people were leaving the workforce in droves. But on July 15, 2017 you said this: On 7/15/2017 at 12:15 PM, concha said: The U6 actually went up from 8.4% in May despite non-farm payroll being up by 222k. Why? People are actually starting to look for jobs again. The Labor Participation Rate on July 15, 2017 was? 62.8% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 One poll had approval rating of 97% for republicans 38% democrats and 72% Independents. He absolutely nailed that speech. And hes keeping Guantanamo Bay open. Its about America First. Legal Citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, concha said: .This is your MO, twisting and distorting in order to call your opponent a liar. So far in just the last two days you've lied about: Trump's position on legal immigration Whether the unemployment rate was relevant Whether the unemployment rate could be affected by a President Whether Labor Participation Rate stabilized under Obama Which age group saw the largest decline in Labor Participation Rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 22 minutes ago, concha said: And the lies and distortions continue from Canes. Are you ever going to even attempt to prove this? Because you being liar isn't just a claim I make. It's an irrefutable fact based on countless posts of proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 22 minutes ago, concha said: What "factors"? You mentioned none. All you do is show your ignorance. Overall economic health. Unemployment rate. Didn't matter. LFPR declined from 2000 to 2013 independent of President, Congress, economic factors, etc. But just because of that lead-pipe fact, it didn't stop you from lying about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 29 minutes ago, concha said: The impact of the LFPR on unemployment is MATH. Take a class. concha, stop lying and pay attention for one second. When the LFPR was 62.8% in 2014, you didn't use it to soften the blow for Obama when the unemployment rate ticked up. But when it was 62.8% in July last year, you used it to soften the blow for Trump when the unemployment rate ticked up. You're lying, concha. You're a deceitful hack. Everybody can see your game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, RedZone said: concha flip flops as much as trump....nothing else to see here. Anybody who has been around for even a short amount of time knows this. The guy is a pathological liar. I gave a bulletproof list of his demonstrated lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Guccifer said: concha, you've lied about this before and were exposed on the age range. I believe on this very forum. No. Wrong. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01300060 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11324230 LFPR went down sharply for the 25-54 demographic. LFPR actually INCREASED post 2008 for 55 and over demographic. DOWN GOES CANES (AGAIN) All day.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 And here it is for the over 65 demographic. INCREASING. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU01375379 All day.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, concha said: LFPR went down sharply for the 25-54 demographic. I already posted the BLS chart. In 20 years it went from 83.8% to 81.3% You claim it went down "sharply" Another lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, concha said: And here it is for the over 65 demographic. INCREASING. concha, you claimed that the 25-54 demographic saw most of the decline. 44 minutes ago, concha said: Most of the decline has been prime working age folks age 25-54. You're wrong at best and lying at worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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