HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Illinois is different scenario, for whatever reason they can't get it together and the academic rigor is not as intense as some of these other "academics". Good point bringing up Illinois as they should be competitive with the big dogs but not Alabama or top tier SEC. Illinois in like 2007 had a good team. I remember them having a good Rb at the time. I believe made it to the league. I dont expect Illinois to keep up with Alabama. You do have to expect Illinois to beat teams like Purdue Rutgers NW Indiana. They are not going to beat teams like Wisky OSU and Michigan. And I was right Illinois in 2007 was 9-4 If you take Illinois and put them up against Vandy and Kentucky does Illinois win those games?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Illinois in like 2007 had a good team. I remember them having a good Rb at the time. I believe made it to the league. I dont expect Illinois to keep up with Alabama. You do have to expect Illinois to beat teams like Purdue Rutgers NW Indiana. They are not going to beat teams like Wisky OSU and Michigan. If you take Illinois and put them up against Vandy and Kentucky does Illinois win those games?? Vandy weak maybe, lose to Kentucky. Illinois is a ways off beating Purdue, NW or Indiana right now. Illinois is THAT bad. Rutgers weak maybe. That's the conundrum with Illinois, Power 5 with really no restrictions academically. And they should dominate recruiting in that area, Chicago etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Vandy weak maybe, lose to Kentucky. Illinois is a ways off beating Purdue, NW or Indiana right now. Illinois is THAT bad. Rutgers weak maybe. That's the conundrum with Illinois, Power 5 with really no restrictions academically. And they should dominate recruiting in that area, Chicago etc. Doesnt schools like OSU and Michigan got the top guys from that area? And the higher academic kids would rather go to NW than go to Illinois?? Illinois isnt exactly a power state in terms of HS football either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, HSFBfan said: Doesnt schools like OSU and Michigan got the top guys from that area? And the higher academic kids would rather go to NW than go to Illinois?? Illinois isnt exactly a power state in terms of HS football either Good point and yes, throw Notre Dame in there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Good point and yes, throw Notre Dame in there as well. Exactly. Even though ND glory days are well over. Another school that has fallen from grace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, Drummer61 said: OSU and academics are not a match...NW,Mich, better.. Yup, should've clarified, you're right as rain on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Exactly. Even though ND glory days are well over. Another school that has fallen from grace Correct, but the mystique of Notre Dame and top notch academics still a draw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Correct, but the mystique of Notre Dame and top notch academics still a draw. I understand but none of those institutions will ever win a championship in the next 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: I understand but none of those institutions will ever win a championship in the next 10 years. This needs to go into a time capsule and in ten years time, we'll take a look. Strong boast. I can't see why not, then I can see how that is very likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: This needs to go into a time capsule and in ten years time, we'll take a look. Strong boast. I can't see why not, then I can see how that is very likely. Look at Stanford ND Duke NW Michigan...any chance of them winning in 10 years?? Nd just had to vacate all wins from the year they went to the NC and got blasted by Alabama. These schools do not attract the athletes as well as the coaches that are needed to win. You dont see Saban Meyer etc going to these schools. I think if David Shaw left Stanford maybe he can win one with a Michigan but i dont think hes leaving Stanford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Look at Stanford ND Duke NW Michigan...any chance of them winning in 10 years?? Nd just had to vacate all wins from the year they went to the NC and got blasted by Alabama. These schools do not attract the athletes as well as the coaches that are needed to win. You dont see Saban Meyer etc going to these schools. I think if David Shaw left Stanford maybe he can win one with a Michigan but i dont think hes leaving Stanford. I'd say Stanford, Michigan and ND have the BEST chance. Even withe ND wins vacate which was bullshit in light of the North Carolina ruling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: I'd say Stanford, Michigan and ND have the BEST chance. Even withe ND wins vacate which was bullshit in light of the North Carolina ruling. Stanford eh....they have had some good teams but usually lose 2-3 games a year. Will never be enough to win a NC. ND with their independent schedule doesnt play for a conference championship and so that hurts them. And michigan is michigan. Was just ranked 21st in recruiting this class. not a good sign. These schools dont attract the freaks that are needed to win. IF Alabama takes a step back it will be Georgia that takes over. Georgia is building something special over in Athens. Kirby is doing a heck of a job and for now the SEC East is weak. Hell own that division for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: Stanford eh....they have had some good teams but usually lose 2-3 games a year. Will never be enough to win a NC. ND with their independent schedule doesnt play for a conference championship and so that hurts them. And michigan is michigan. Was just ranked 21st in recruiting this class. not a good sign. These schools dont attract the freaks that are needed to win. IF Alabama takes a step back it will be Georgia that takes over. Georgia is building something special over in Athens. Kirby is doing a heck of a job and for now the SEC East is weak. Hell own that division for a while. You have good points, I'm not minimizing but that's this years recruiting class, who knows what's gonna happen over 5 years. Hell if I could forecast that then we certainly would have some solid answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: You have good points, I'm not minimizing but that's this years recruiting class, who knows what's gonna happen over 5 years. Hell if I could forecast that then we certainly would have some solid answers. I wish i could forecast and say over the next 10 years this is what your going to see. I would make a killing in Vegas lol. But im just going by the trend. The trend is in the big boy football in the Southeast part of the country. Big ten has failed 2x to score a point in the playoffs. Oklahoma gave georgia a great game just dont know what happened to them in the 2nd half but their o line was eaten by georgia. The ACC with Clemson and Watson was a great team but you can see the drop off with Bryant. I have been a huge critic of Hurts at Alabama and certainly believe Tua should be the starting Qb. I would say you can use a 2 QB package but that doesnt tend to work out well. Stanford just signed a Qb that wont be there for 2 years due to a mission hes going on. Michigan has JH who was a QB that has never developed a QB while at Michigan. Lets see what he does with Patterson if he ever gets cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: I wish i could forecast and say over the next 10 years this is what your going to see. I would make a killing in Vegas lol. But im just going by the trend. The trend is in the big boy football in the Southeast part of the country. Big ten has failed 2x to score a point in the playoffs. Oklahoma gave georgia a great game just dont know what happened to them in the 2nd half but their o line was eaten by georgia. The ACC with Clemson and Watson was a great team but you can see the drop off with Bryant. I have been a huge critic of Hurts at Alabama and certainly believe Tua should be the starting Qb. I would say you can use a 2 QB package but that doesnt tend to work out well. Stanford just signed a Qb that wont be there for 2 years due to a mission hes going on. Michigan has JH who was a QB that has never developed a QB while at Michigan. Lets see what he does with Patterson if he ever gets cleared. Like! And I agree on Tua, in a mop up game earlier I said that kid is good, the mechanics, poise, the whole package. Good move by Saban to put him in and classy move by Saban because I'm sure they prepped Hurts going out. No way that kid could eat that blindsided. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Like! And I agree on Tua, in a mop up game earlier I said that kid is good, the mechanics, poise, the whole package. Good move by Saban to put him in and classy move by Saban because I'm sure they prepped Hurts going out. No way that kid could eat that blindsided. And that is why Saban makes the big bucks. He's worth every cent. And CKS will be too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Like! And I agree on Tua, in a mop up game earlier I said that kid is good, the mechanics, poise, the whole package. Good move by Saban to put him in and classy move by Saban because I'm sure they prepped Hurts going out. No way that kid could eat that blindsided. Yep Tua is a freak. He has everything. I heard Jalen Hurts is thinking of transferring to Texas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: Who cares? If you graduated ND, you wouldn't be on this board with us right now. Yes I would. My whole life is sports. I wouldnt have it any other way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: Freaks is right. I'd rather not be a freak and graduate from ND, Vandy, NW, Duke or Stanford. Anyday. NCs are meaningless in ones life. Its nice to have those rings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, GardenStateBaller said: I have one. 1991 Blockbuster Bowl. No biggie. Life went on. I know Ive seen it. Its a nice ring. It is a biggie for those players on the team :). Just saying like i said those schools that were mentioned will not be winning a NC anytime soon. They will be collecting a nice revenue sharing check from the top of their respective conferences though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Ok...da hell are we talking about here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, Frosty4024 said: Ok...da hell are we talking about here? all sorts of topics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCGIII Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 51 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: I have one. 1990 Blockbuster Bowl. No biggie. Life went on. I was pulling for Penn State in that one. Great game for fans. Two evenly matched teams, legendary coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, HSFBfan said: Yep Tua is a freak. He has everything. I heard Jalen Hurts is thinking of transferring to Texas Still gotta fix the passing issues! Wishbone is deader than dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Still gotta fix the passing issues! Wishbone is deader than dead. His arm isn't that good. Very good at those short to medium passes and he love to just take off. His first instinct is too run. You can see it every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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