stanscript Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 This is just one guy on FOX who gets about 1% of the airtime. https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/6-times-when-foxs-judge-napolitano-got-things-very-very-wrong/ FOX lies are reported a lot. You should get your head out of the sand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanscript Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Give me three examples where Fox was wrong on their facts and second, if they were,show us all that they refused to admit it..??? If not, then you may in fact,be fake yourself... Here's more: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 37 minutes ago, stanscript said: Here's more: http://www.politifact.replying to that post was like shooting duckcom/punditfact/tv/fox/ replying to that post was like shooting ducks in a barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Thank you, Iam wrong and will be more careful...Again,you got me fair and square.. Good job... only a man admits when he is mistaken people like concha has no such admirable quality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15yds4gibberish Posted February 16, 2018 Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 3 hours ago, stanscript said: Once in awhile someone on FOX gets it right and it's usually Sheppard Smith. Two minutes ago Shep said that Congress overwhelmingly passed a bill that Russian sanctions needed to be increased due to their interference in the U.S. election in 2016. President Trump said no. Why? Can any supporter of Cadet Bone Spurs answer why? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Mueller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, 15yds4gibberish said: Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Mueller? Again earth to eighties nothing to see here just ask Obama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, 15yds4gibberish said: Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Mueller? Mute and Memes, Mute and Memes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 All I can say is Mueller better have more than this. I can buy the bank accounts and identity theft as crimes, but we are talking about some Facebook ads and Twitter posts. Half the stuff on there is BS and everyone knows it. The Russians tried to influence the election - knock me over with a feather. Kind of like we do in most Israeli elections - only more blatantly. If posting disinformation is a crime - then some media types need to head to the slammer. Some are actually suggesting Facebook and Twitter employees need to be indicted - people have lost their mind. If Mueller has nothing more than stuff like this - he will be an eternal joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, noonereal said: replying to that post was like shooting ducks in a barrel I almost fell over reading your response. Funny as all get out. Fox not liars. Just damn. Shep Smith exposes them nearly everyday and he's on the network. THE real news guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Actually we are not sure it was disinformation, it may have been truthful for all we know. Since our media tends to cover up a good chunk of news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanscript Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bormio said: Actually we are not sure it was disinformation, it may have been truthful for all we know. Since our media tends to cover up a good chunk of news. I think our news media is doing a pretty good job, actually. They've found a lot of information that the trump team has tried to hide and they have been as determined as a pit bull with a bone. They've cut thru a lot of the smoke, mirrors, half-truths and obfuscation. There is a reason why trump hates the news media and that's because they are outing him, BIGLY. It's difficult for a few people to change their minds about trump because they have so heavily staked their claim of his innocence. Most of us have seen the light for a long time and understand that the end result won't be good for the trumpster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, stanscript said: I think our news media is doing a pretty good job, actually. They've found a lot of information that the trump team has tried to hide and they have been as determined as a pit bull with a bone. They've cut thru a lot of the smoke, mirrors, half-truths and obfuscation. There is a reason why trump hates the news media and that's because they are outing him, BIGLY. It's difficult for a few people to change their minds about trump because they have so heavily staked their claim of his innocence. Most of us have seen the light for a long time and understand that the end result won't be good for the trumpster. Maybe Trump’s supporters are not the only ones with blinders on, huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanscript Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Bormio said: Maybe Trump’s supporters are not the only ones with blinders on, huh? I watch MSNBC, CNN, and follow NY Times, WashPost, Vox, HuffPost, etc. and they usually get the story right and quickly. They've been correctly reporting the news that's been breaking for the last couple of years, while Fox and their friends get it wrong. With so much disinformation coming from the trump people, you'd think they were trained by Russian intelligence agents. Yet the sources that I follow still expose a lot of the administrations shennanigans. If you want to be deceived and think that trump is truly innocent stay watching FOX and follow Breitbart, Rush, etc. MSNBC and CNN talk to the real experts. You should watch a full evening of shows on one of those networks if you really want to know what is going on. If you want to dream that trump is innocent of all wrongdoing, then FOX is your baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, stanscript said: I watch MSNBC, CNN, and follow NY Times, WashPost, Vox, HuffPost, etc. and they usually get the story right and quickly. They've been correctly reporting the news that's been breaking for the last couple of years, while Fox and their friends get it wrong. With so much disinformation coming from the trump people, you'd think they were trained by Russian intelligence agents. Yet the sources that I follow still expose a lot of the administrations shennanigans. If you want to be deceived and think that trump is truly innocent stay watching FOX and follow Breitbart, Rush, etc. MSNBC and CNN talk to the real experts. You should watch a full evening of shows on one of those networks if you really want to know what is going on. If you want to dream that trump is innocent of all wrongdoing, then FOX is your baby. I almost never watch Fox. I used to watch MSNBC in the mornings, but the vitriol has destroyed that show. CNN and MSNBC select their guests to advance an agenda. Maddow has a modicum of talent, O’Donnell and Hayes are just biased idiots. CNN is just CNN. CNN had to retract 3 major stories on the investigation in the past year. ABC had to send Brian Ross to outer Siberia he was so incompetent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15yds4gibberish Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 hour ago, thc6795 said: Again earth to eighties nothing to see here just ask Obama This has nothing to do with Obama...All Trump. I suspect if we had a Democratic President that refused to enforce sanctions that this exact same Republican Congress had voted for 517-5, you'd be singing a different tune, and you'd be more than a little concerned about the health of our Constitution. But that's admittedly speculation on my part. Even if I'm wrong, it's okay to just enjoy a half decent pun on its own terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanscript Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Bormio said: I almost never watch Fox. I used to watch MSNBC in the mornings, but the vitriol has destroyed that show. CNN and MSNBC select their guests to advance an agenda. Maddow has a modicum of talent, O’Donnell and Hayes are just biased idiots. CNN is just CNN. CNN had to retract 3 major stories on the investigation in the past year. ABC had to send Brian Ross to outer Siberia he was so incompetent. I wrote this 11 days ago. Perhaps this will help explain why I watch MSNBC and CNN. Sorry that it is so long: Just saw an expert on MSNBC about 20 minutes ago. Qualifications? OK Samantha Vinograd worked for: Treasury Department National Security Council Visiting Fellow Tri-lateral Commission Visiting Fellow Wharton School of Public Policy Worked for Goldman Sachs Sr. Advisor to National Security Advisor Speaks the following languages: French Arabic Hebrew B.A. in Asian and Middle Eastern Studies from Univ. Pennsylvania M.A. in Security Studies from Georgetown University Millenium Fellow at the Atlantic Council ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are many guests on MSNBC that are experts in law, FBI, CIA, terrorism and intelligence, too many to name. I particularly like: Malcolm Nance, a terrorist expert and naval cryptologist that speaks Arabic. Jill Wine-Banks... Extensive law background.....Watergate prosecutor Nick Ackerman...Extensive law background and also a Watergate prosecutor. Richard Painter...Chief Ethics Lawyer for George W. Bush, Professor of Corporate Law at University of Minnesota, Harvard Graduate, Yale Law Graduate Michael Steele...former Chairman of the Republican National Committee Michael Steel (different person) Press Secretary for Speaker John Boehner (R) Eugene Robinson...Pulitzer Prize Jennifer Rubin...Conservative columnist, First in class U.C. Berkeley Law School Richard Engle...Foreign Correspondent Michael Beschloss...Presidential Historian Clint Van Zandt...25 years FBI, U.S. Army Counter-Intelligence Jeremy Bash...Chief of Staff for Department of Defense, Harvard Law Chuck Rosenberg...Drug Enforcement Agency, Chief of Staff F.B.I. Tufts University, M.P.P. from Harvard, Law degree from University of Virginia, hired out of law school through the U.S. Attorney General's Honors Program and served in numerous position throughout the Department of Justice. Juliette Kayam (now on CNN) Homeland Security Advisory Council, Council on Foreign Relations, Pacific Counsel on International Policy. Maggie Haberman....NY Times White House reporter. She breaks a lot of stories. Carl Bernstein...Broke Watergate story for Washington Post John Dean…White House Counsel for President Nixon Leon Panetta…White House Chief of Staff, Secretary of Defense, Director C.I.A., Director Office of Management of the Budget, Professor Public Policy Santa Clara University Asha Ragappa…former F.B.I. agent explains FISA warrant process (CNN): https://www.justsecurity.org/38422/aint-easy-fisa-warrant-fbi-agent/ These are just a few of the experts that are on MSNBC. Pretty good group of experts I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, stanscript said: Totally unrelated. You run the calpreps site, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, stanscript said: I wrote this 11 days ago. Perhaps this will help explain why I watch MSNBC and CNN. Sorry that it is so long: Just saw an expert on MSNBC about 20 minutes ago. Qualifications? OK Samantha Vinograd worked for: Treasury Department National Security Council Visiting Fellow Tri-lateral Commission Visiting Fellow Wharton School of Public Policy Worked for Goldman Sachs Sr. Advisor to National Security Advisor Speaks the following languages: French Arabic Hebrew B.A. in Asian and Middle Eastern Studies from Univ. Pennsylvania M.A. in Security Studies from Georgetown University Millenium Fellow at the Atlantic Council There are many guests on MSNBC that are experts in law, FBI, CIA, terrorism and intelligence, too many to name. I particularly like: Malcolm Nance, a terrorist expert and naval cryptologist that speaks Arabic. Jill Wine-Banks... Extensive law background.....Watergate prosecutor Nick Ackerman...Extensive law background and also a Watergate prosecutor. Richard Painter...Chief Ethics Lawyer for George W. Bush, Professor of Corporate Law at University of Minnesota, Harvard Graduate, Yale Law Graduate Michael Steele...former Chairman of the Republican National Committee Michael Steel (different person) Press Secretary for Speaker John Boehner (R) Eugene Robinson...Pulitzer Prize Jennifer Rubin...Conservative columnist, First in class U.C. Berkeley Law School Richard Engle...Foreign Correspondent Michael Beschloss...Presidential Historian Clint Van Zandt...25 years FBI, U.S. Army Counter-Intelligence Jeremy Bash...Chief of Staff for Department of Defense, Harvard Law Chuck Rosenberg...Drug Enforcement Agency, Chief of Staff F.B.I. Tufts University, M.P.P. from Harvard, Law degree from University of Virginia, hired out of law school through the U.S. Attorney General's Honors Program and served in numerous position throughout the Department of Justice. Juliette Kayam (now on CNN) Homeland Security Advisory Council, Council on Foreign Relations, Pacific Counsel on International Policy. Maggie Haberman....NY Times White House reporter. She breaks a lot of stories. Carl Bernstein...Broke Watergate story for Washington Post John Dean…White House Counsel for President Nixon Leon Panetta…White House Chief of Staff, Secretary of Defense, Director C.I.A., Director Office of Management of the Budget, Professor Public Policy Santa Clara University Asha Ragappa…former F.B.I. agent explains FISA warrant process (CNN): https://www.justsecurity.org/38422/aint-easy-fisa-warrant-fbi-agent/ These are just a few of the experts that are on MSNBC. Pretty good group of experts I'd say. That is the in- Washington crowd, the people responsible for the fucked-up state of things. Rubin might as well be Romney’s mistress, Steele is a Never-Trumper - they both hate Trump. 2 Watergate prosecutors and Bernstein - no bias there. Dean hates Trump. Eugene Robinson - he can write but a total leftist. Any Trumpers on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanscript Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 5:44 PM, RedZone said: Totally unrelated. You run the calpreps site, correct? It was an answer to Bormio. Not afraid to show some of my sources and post appropriate links. Perhaps others ought to do the same. Ned Freeman runs the calpreps website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted February 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, stanscript said: Ned Freeman runs the calpreps. Think he would mind if I linked the site to mine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanscript Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 Bormio, please give me your list of experts and best sources. I'd like to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanscript Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: Think he would mind if I linked the site to mine? I have no idea. I think you can find his email or contact information somewhere on the calpreps website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanscript Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bormio said: That is the in- Washington crowd, the people responsible for the fucked-up state of things. Rubin might as well be Romney’s mistress, Steele is a Never-Trumper - they both hate Trump. 2 Watergate prosecutors and Bernstein - no bias there. Dean hates Trump. Eugene Robinson - he can write but a total leftist. Any Trumpers on the list? They are too smart to be trumpers. With all the money that trump is supposed to have, he picks Michael Cohen as his lawyer? Look at the reputation of the law school where he graduated. trump should have picked a lawyer familiar with Washington DC politics, not Cohen. trump has problems Cohen has never seen or dealt with. https://lawschooli.com/should-i-attend-cooley-law-school/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, stanscript said: They are too smart to be trumpers. Blinders.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanscript Posted February 17, 2018 Report Share Posted February 17, 2018 13 hours ago, Bormio said: Blinders.... So again, who do you think are good sources for information ? ? ? ? You seem to have lots of opinions but rarely (if ever) quote your sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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