Rufus69 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, HSFBfan said: And the people believe in him. Remember tho he can't take office due to be investigated. Not investigated. Convicted. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: Not investigated. Convicted. Rufus>> And yet he'll be the leader of italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Why is it so damn hard to not repeat the same damn mistakes over again... HAVE WE LEARNED NOTHING ABOUT FACISM.? Because people don't learn from history. The young repeat the mistakes of their grandparents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, HSFBfan said: And yet he'll be the leader of italy Not in 2018..... Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: Not in 2018..... Rufus>> Soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Soon enough Not in 2018...in the elections coming up. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: Not in 2018...in the elections coming up. Rufus>> He can get elected. And he's the favorite to win. Yes i know polls mean shit. But March 4th we shall know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, HSFBfan said: He can get elected. And he's the favorite to win. Yes i know polls mean shit. But March 4th we shall know Hoss...if you did ANY kind of research...you'd find that he was convicted in 2013 with a ban on taking ANY political office for 6 years. Do the math..... He can't be elected in 2018...no matter how many times you Trumpys wish it. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, Rufus69 said: Hoss...if you did ANY kind of research...you'd find that he was convicted in 2013 with a ban on taking ANY political office for 6 years. Do the math..... He can't be elected in 2018...no matter how many times you Trumpys wish it. Rufus>> He can be elected but can't take office til 2019. Read an article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: He can be elected but can't take office til 2019. Read an article Here's you an excerpt from an article.... Another unique quirk of Italy's election in 2018 is the return of four-time prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi. Berlusconi was convicted of tax fraud in 2013, and was sentenced to four years in prison. Three of those years were pardoned, and because of his age, Berlusconi was spared jail in favour of unpaid community work. Berlusconi's conviction means that he is no longer eligible to hold any legislative office in the next six years, creating a unique situation where he can remain the leader of his party, the right-wing Forza Italia party, but will not be able to hold any sort of office if the party gets into a government coalition. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: Here's you an excerpt from an article.... Another unique quirk of Italy's election in 2018 is the return of four-time prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi. Berlusconi was convicted of tax fraud in 2013, and was sentenced to four years in prison. Three of those years were pardoned, and because of his age, Berlusconi was spared jail in favour of unpaid community work. Berlusconi's conviction means that he is no longer eligible to hold any legislative office in the next six years, creating a unique situation where he can remain the leader of his party, the right-wing Forza Italia party, but will not be able to hold any sort of office if the party gets into a government coalition. Rufus>> Ok so he himself can't hold a seat in office but his party and his group if they win will have someone hold that office and be influenced by him. At the end of the day the "facist" holds the lead in polls. And if he wins that's what the Italians want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, HSFBfan said: He can be elected but can't take office til 2019. Read an article 1 hour ago, HSFBfan said: Ok so he himself can't hold a seat in office but... A joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 9 hours ago, HSFBfan said: Ok so he himself can't hold a seat in office but his party and his group if they win will have someone hold that office and be influenced by him. At the end of the day the "facist" holds the lead in polls. And if he wins that's what the Italians want. So...I actually DO know what I'm posting about. Rufus>> 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcaptiron Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 8:10 PM, Bormio said: A bunch of millennial twits throw around terms like “fascist” and “Nazi” - with no conception what those ideologies and practitioners were like. Ding Ding...Chicken dinner.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcaptiron Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 9:19 PM, Rufus69 said: Not investigated. Convicted. Rufus>> and?... you're forgetting about the old Marion Barry if it's good enough for Washington D.C. then it's good enough for me factor..... Just some 'history' for you 'buffs' I know, I know.....not our laws....just sayin... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 6 hours ago, dbcaptiron said: and?... you're forgetting about the old Marion Barry if it's good enough for Washington D.C. then it's good enough for me factor..... Just some 'history' for you 'buffs' I know, I know.....not our laws....just sayin... Marion Barry, under the shadows of the monument, Monticello, memorial etc Got re elected.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Looks like the “centro destra” will form the new government and Salvini may be new PM as the League outpolls Forza. And Renzi and the centro sinistra get thumped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Bormio said: Looks like the “centro destra” will form the new government and Salvini may be new PM as the League outpolls Forza. And Renzi and the centro sinistra get thumped. Nobody got over 40 percent so no new government as of now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Nobody got over 40 percent so no new government as of now 5 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Nobody got over 40 percent so no new government as of now No, but the center right is the largest coalition bloc at near 36%. Already they have said Salvini will be their man for PM. I suspect some arrangement will be made with MS5 to allow formation of a government. The Left got rejected, Renzi’s PD is under 20%. The negotiations may take some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bormio said: No, but the center right is the largest coalition bloc at near 36%. Already they have said Salvini will be their man for PM. I suspect some arrangement will be made with MS5 to allow formation of a government. The Left got rejected, Renzi’s PD is under 20%. The negotiations may take some time. From what I read looks like salvini and bersculoni will form an agreement to get over 40 percent. Seems like the most popular is the government that is anti immigration. Bersculoni will have most seats in parliament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: From what I read looks like salvini and bersculoni will form an agreement to get over 40 percent. Seems like the most popular is the government that is anti immigration. Bersculoni will have most seats in parliament The question is if MS5 could play ball with Salvini as PM or if Salvini would bail if the right went back on its agreement. Smaller parties might get the right over the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bormio said: The question is if MS5 could play ball with Salvini as PM or if Salvini would bail if the right went back on its agreement. Smaller parties might get the right over the line. MS5 right now is saying no coalition with anyone. But that could easily change. Either way looks like the anti establishment anti migrant parties are going to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 5, 2018 Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: MS5 right now is saying no coalition with anyone. But that could easily change. Either way looks like the anti establishment anti migrant parties are going to win The question for 5 Star is if they want to be a player - or a protest party. They have to decide. Clearly the country is unhappy with immigration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bormio said: The question for 5 Star is if they want to be a player - or a protest party. They have to decide. Clearly the country is unhappy with immigration. More and more countries are sick and tired of immigration. Poland I believe just elected a guy whose anti immigration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2018 Germany is dead with Merkel getting a 4th term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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