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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/01/watch-trump-said-kim-jong-uns-letter-was-interesting-then-he-said-i-havent-opened-it/?utm_term=.5c3cff49a3ce

President Trump figuratively dangled a letter from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in front of reporters on Friday, as he confirmed that a June 12 summit is back on.

“That letter was a very nice letter,” Trump said at a White House news conference. “Oh, would you like to see what was in that letter. Wouldn't you like? How much? How much? How much?”

When a journalist asked whether the president could “just give us the flavor of what the letter said,” Trump said, “It was a very interesting letter. At some point, it may be appropriate and maybe I'll be able to give it to you, maybe.”

A few minutes later, however, Trump said he hadn't even opened the letter, which was delivered by Kim Yong Chol, a high-ranking North Korean official who previously directed that country's spy agency.

“I haven't seen the letter yet,” the president said. “I purposely didn't open the letter. I haven't opened it. I didn't open it in front of the director. I said, ‘Would you want me to open it?’ He said, ‘You can read it later.’ ”

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50 minutes ago, RedZone said:

This guy is a true psychopath.. 

He is not normal. And what is truly troubling is the extent to which he has conned otherwise normal people. Truth and facts have no place in Trump world, for truth is whatever supports his narrative at a given point in time. 

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1 minute ago, DarterBlue said:

Sadly you may be right. But it is shocking to think that about 1/3 of Americans are not normal. For about a third of the voting public would literally following him regardless.

Having a discussion about "normal" with ChipDumbRacistFecklessCunt.

I've seen it all.

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1 hour ago, DarterBlue said:

Sadly you may be right. But it is shocking to think that about 1/3 of Americans are not normal. For about a third of the voting public would literally following him regardless.

It's not that shocking and it's called "social dominance/orientation"

You ever actually watch a full trump speech? 

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45 minutes ago, Bormio said:

We are laughing at you .... you all lost your freaking minds over the election and can’t let it go.  So we laugh at you.

I love watching old people laugh.

Can't let what go exactly? Over 5,000 lies?

What's your limit, laughing man?

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You ever notice the same 4 or 5 wing nuts at this forum MUST post #winning, #winningfox, #winninganythingthatmakesmebetter over and over and over? Yeah, me too.

"social dominance/orientation"

 

Eventually they will fail. Then what you have is a bunch of animals on the loose going after everything and anything that's stopping that from happening.

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, RedZone said:

You ever notice the same 4 or 5 wing nuts at this forum MUST post #winning, #winningfox, #winninganythingthatmakesmebetter over and over and over? Yeah, me too.

"social dominance/orientation"

Just read the Wiki version of SDO. I get that many on here would subscribe to that. But DJT? Sure a Ted Cruz or someone like that. But Trump, an obvious nut job? That is just straight up crazy. The man could easily lead us into a real major war. 

North Korea summit, on again, off again, no agenda, Nooner was right, if it happens it will just be a photo op for us, and probably some economic benefit for them (lifting of some sanctions, etc.). We have done no homework for this. SMH! 

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5 minutes ago, DarterBlue said:

Just read the Wiki version of SDO. I get that many on here would subscribe to that. But DJT? Sure a Ted Cruz or someone like that. But Trump, an obvious nut job? That is just straight up crazy. The man could easily lead us into a real major war. 

 

It doesn't really matter about trump or how fruity he is. You and I know what he is.

 

It's the people that suffer SD/O that don't care.

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On 6/1/2018 at 6:08 PM, RedZone said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/06/01/watch-trump-said-kim-jong-uns-letter-was-interesting-then-he-said-i-havent-opened-it/?utm_term=.5c3cff49a3ce

President Trump figuratively dangled a letter from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in front of reporters on Friday, as he confirmed that a June 12 summit is back on.

“That letter was a very nice letter,” Trump said at a White House news conference. “Oh, would you like to see what was in that letter. Wouldn't you like? How much? How much? How much?”

When a journalist asked whether the president could “just give us the flavor of what the letter said,” Trump said, “It was a very interesting letter. At some point, it may be appropriate and maybe I'll be able to give it to you, maybe.”

A few minutes later, however, Trump said he hadn't even opened the letter, which was delivered by Kim Yong Chol, a high-ranking North Korean official who previously directed that country's spy agency.

“I haven't seen the letter yet,” the president said. “I purposely didn't open the letter. I haven't opened it. I didn't open it in front of the director. I said, ‘Would you want me to open it?’ He said, ‘You can read it later.’ ”

Leadership development is a $130 billion a year industry. The traditional thought is that good leaders — whether they are CEOs, politicians or principals — are supposed to be honest, authentic and transparent.

But history tells us otherwise. According to Jeffrey Pfeffer, professor of organizational behavior at Stanford University and author of "Leadership BS: Fixing Workplaces and Careers One Truth at a Time,” the average person lies at least twice a day. He says that the truth about good leaders is that they are often really good liars.

“What makes individuals successful is often times the opposite of what people have been told to do,” Pfeffer says. “While we’re told to be modest and honest, and to take care of others and not self-promote, when you actually look at what produces leadership success, at least success as defined as career advancement and achieving a high salary, it’s pretty much the opposite of that.”

Some of the greatest and most successful leaders in the history of business and politics have not always told the truth, Pfeffer says.

“Abraham Lincoln, in order to settle the Civil War, was not completely honest about where the Southern delegation was,” he says. “James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, when asked about whether or not national intelligence agencies were intercepting communications from American citizens, didn’t tell the truth, as we learned from Edward Snowden. And, by the way, Mr. Clapper still has his job.”

When it comes to the business sector, Pfeffer points to Apple founder Steve Jobs, who often employed the “reality distortion field” — a tactic used to convince people of things that they themselves do not believe or are not consistent with reality in order to achieve a goal.

There are plenty of recent examples. Take this statement about the Affordable Care Act that President Barack Obama made back in July 2009:

"Under our proposal, if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor. If you like your current insurance, you keep that insurance. Period. End of story.”

“That’s an example that’s not dissimilar to the Lincoln example — sometimes in order to get a proposal accepted, you can’t necessarily tell everything quite accurately,” says Pfeffer. “Lincoln wanted to settle the Civil War, so he had to make up some lies about the Southern delegation and what the Southerners were willing to accept. When Obama wants to sell healthcare for everyone, he has to probably distort a little bit about some of the specifics of that healthcare plan.”

US leaders at the beginning of the century also lied. Perhaps most famously is this 2003 statement from President George W. Bush:

"Year after year, Saddam Hussein has gone to elaborate lengths, spent enormous sums, taken great risks, to build and keep weapons of mass destruction."

Not so much. But, Pfeffer argues, not all cases of dishonesty are equal.

“In both [the Bush] case and the Obama case, one of the questions is not does a statement, after the fact, turn out to be inaccurate, but whether or not someone knows the statement is incorrect at the moment they’re making it,” says Pfeffer. “There are some people who believe that George Bush actually believed, at the moment he was making that statement, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and that it was only in hindsight that they learned they didn’t. A lie is telling something you know not to be true at the moment that you say it.”

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On 6/2/2018 at 4:39 PM, Cat_Scratch said:

Leadership development is a $130 billion a year industry. The traditional thought is that good leaders — whether they are CEOs, politicians or principals — are supposed to be honest, authentic and transparent.

But history tells us otherwise. According to Jeffrey Pfeffer, professor of organizational behavior at Stanford University and author of "Leadership BS: Fixing Workplaces and Careers One Truth at a Time,” the average person lies at least twice a day. He says that the truth about good leaders is that they are often really good liars.

“What makes individuals successful is often times the opposite of what people have been told to do,” Pfeffer says. “While we’re told to be modest and honest, and to take care of others and not self-promote, when you actually look at what produces leadership success, at least success as defined as career advancement and achieving a high salary, it’s pretty much the opposite of that.”

Some of the greatest and most successful leaders in the history of business and politics have not always told the truth, Pfeffer says.

“Abraham Lincoln, in order to settle the Civil War, was not completely honest about where the Southern delegation was,” he says. “James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, when asked about whether or not national intelligence agencies were intercepting communications from American citizens, didn’t tell the truth, as we learned from Edward Snowden. And, by the way, Mr. Clapper still has his job.”

When it comes to the business sector, Pfeffer points to Apple founder Steve Jobs, who often employed the “reality distortion field” — a tactic used to convince people of things that they themselves do not believe or are not consistent with reality in order to achieve a goal.

There are plenty of recent examples. Take this statement about the Affordable Care Act that President Barack Obama made back in July 2009:

"Under our proposal, if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor. If you like your current insurance, you keep that insurance. Period. End of story.”

“That’s an example that’s not dissimilar to the Lincoln example — sometimes in order to get a proposal accepted, you can’t necessarily tell everything quite accurately,” says Pfeffer. “Lincoln wanted to settle the Civil War, so he had to make up some lies about the Southern delegation and what the Southerners were willing to accept. When Obama wants to sell healthcare for everyone, he has to probably distort a little bit about some of the specifics of that healthcare plan.”

US leaders at the beginning of the century also lied. Perhaps most famously is this 2003 statement from President George W. Bush:

"Year after year, Saddam Hussein has gone to elaborate lengths, spent enormous sums, taken great risks, to build and keep weapons of mass destruction."

Not so much. But, Pfeffer argues, not all cases of dishonesty are equal.

“In both [the Bush] case and the Obama case, one of the questions is not does a statement, after the fact, turn out to be inaccurate, but whether or not someone knows the statement is incorrect at the moment they’re making it,” says Pfeffer. “There are some people who believe that George Bush actually believed, at the moment he was making that statement, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and that it was only in hindsight that they learned they didn’t. A lie is telling something you know not to be true at the moment that you say it.”

You aren't comparing Trumps lies to any person in world history are you?  There is no equivalent.

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