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2 minutes ago, concha said:

Who gives a shit what you said LOL?

Like you determine the direction and results of debates?

This country IS getting screwed.  The 2% guideline was established in 2002 in Prague. All but five NATO allies have scoffed at it for nearly 15 years.  While Germany runs a $150 billion surplus with us and makes themselves energy dependent on your boogeyman and fills his coffers, they can't fly a single squadron of the latest fighters and have only about 100 combat ready tanks.

You may be happy to see the country bend over and take it up the ass. I am not.  Your poli-sci and economics classes a FAU must have been a real experience.

Trump actually expects them to honor their agreement.  A point of view alien to the European elites.

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7 minutes ago, Guccifer said:

concha engaging in the filibuster because he can't respond to the three most obvious points on Earth.

  • Putin hated Hillary, wanted Trump to win
  • Putin wanted to sow discontent in NATO
  • Putin wanted to weaken America in Europe

Trump is servicing all three of those as we speak.

Canes doing the usual...Making shit up.

Filibuster?  🤡

Most states in America hated Hillary.

Putin wanted discontent in NATO?  A weaker NATO? Why would he even want spending levels discussed then, dimwit? 🤣  Do some research on German military readiness. Literally most of their tanks and first-line fighter aircraft are NOT COMBAT READY.  As usual, I know what I am talking about and you do not.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bormio said:

Trump actually expects them to honor their agreement.  A point of view alien to the European elites.

They made an agreement years earlier and had been moving towards meeting it.

Trump did nothing but harangue people who know a lot more and care a lot more about NATO than he does.

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Just now, concha said:

Most states in America hated Hillary.

So concha says I'm making shit up and then, of course, doesn't have a response about Putin hating HIllary and wanting Trump to win. Instead he has a quip that isn't even funny or true.

They hated her so much that they voted for her.

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Just now, Guccifer said:

They made an agreement years earlier and had been moving towards meeting it.

Trump did nothing but harangue people who know a lot more and care a lot more about NATO than he does.

They were paying lip service to it, especially Germany.  In their minds getting there meant 50 years from now.

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1 minute ago, concha said:

Putin wanted discontent in NATO?  A weaker NATO? Why would he even want spending levels discussed then, dimwit?

BECAUSE HE THINKS AMERICA IS BEING SCREWED AND DOESN"T CARE ABOUT MILITARY READINESS.

This has been repeated several times.

You even agreed with that assessment.

You are a loon of the highest order.

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9 minutes ago, Guccifer said:

They made an agreement years earlier and had been moving towards meeting it.

Trump did nothing but harangue people who know a lot more and care a lot more about NATO than he does.

Canes demonstrating his ignorance.

During the Cold War Germany had 4,500 main battle tanks.  They now have 200-300, of which about 100 are combat ready.  Nearly all of their first line Typhoon fighter aircraft are not combat ready.  The German Navy has six submarines. None are seaworthy.

The fact is the NATO deadbeats have, in general, done little to nothing to move toward the 2% of GDP spending guideline.

I post facts and substance.

Canes posts out his ass.

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3 minutes ago, Guccifer said:

They made an agreement years earlier and had been moving towards meeting it.

Trump did nothing but harangue people who know a lot more and care a lot more about NATO than he does.

Of course they do.  We are guarding their sorry asses.  They just don’t want to pay for it.

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3 minutes ago, Guccifer said:

BECAUSE HE THINKS AMERICA IS BEING SCREWED AND DOESN"T CARE ABOUT MILITARY READINESS.

This has been repeated several times.

You even agreed with that assessment.

You are a loon of the highest order.

I agreed that he doesn't care about military readiness?

WTF are you talking about? 

Florida Atlantic debate tactics primer:

  1. avoid actual facts
  2. depend on saying your opponent is obfuscating even when he actually does into detail and presents facts while you don't
  3. if 1 and 2 aren't working, just fucking lie

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2 minutes ago, Bormio said:

They were paying lip service to it, especially Germany.  In their minds getting there meant 50 years from now.

Why you just leave this debate to the professional liars like concha. You're lost as usual.

European spending on NATO has been rising since, shock, 2014 when it was an issue of contention and they renewed their commitment.

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2 minutes ago, concha said:

I agreed that he doesn't care about military readiness?

WTF are you talking about? 

You said that America IS getting screwed.

18 minutes ago, concha said:

This country IS getting screwed.

That's what I said Trump cares about.

He's transactional figure. He's a knockaround guy who reviews the check and then demands to speak to the proprietor.

He gives no fucks about NATO military readiness in this context.

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11 minutes ago, concha said:

I post facts and substance.

The guy that said Obama's job growth was too slow and now says that Trump is strengthening the economy.

Average job growth per month (Obama's last 15 months) = 207,000

Average job growth per month (Trump's first 15 months) = 184,000

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3 minutes ago, Guccifer said:

You said that America IS getting screwed.

That's what I said Trump cares about.

He's transactional figure. He's a knockaround guy who reviews the check and then demands to speak to the proprietor.

He gives no fucks about NATO military readiness in this context.

 

When not doing well make shit up and act like you know that which you cannot.

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Just now, Guccifer said:

The guy that said Obama's job growth was too slow and now says that Trump is strengthening the economy.

Average job growth per month (Obama's last 15 months) = 207,000

Average job growth per month (Trump's first 15 months) = 184,000

 

Actually, that wasn't the argument nor the time frame being debated.

As usual, you lie like a cheap rug.

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