Bormio Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Paris is in flames over the fuel tax, Merkel has been forced from office over immigration, and Theresa May’s ongoing sabotage of Brexit has split the Tories in two and will likely crater her government and bring the looniest Labour Party ever to power. Hell, the good ‘ol US of A seems to be a bastion of sanity in a world gone mad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Bormio said: Paris is in flames over the fuel tax, Merkel has been forced from office over immigration, and Theresa May’s ongoing sabotage of Brexit has split the Tories in two and will likely crater her government and bring the looniest Labour Party ever to power. Hell, the good ‘ol US of A seems to be a bastion of sanity in a world gone mad. The world is a blueprint on what to never do. Immigration in the 21st century is probably the worst thing you can possibly do to your country. We need nationalism now more than ever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bormio said: Paris is in flames over the fuel tax, Merkel has been forced from office over immigration, and Theresa May’s ongoing sabotage of Brexit has split the Tories in two and will likely crater her government and bring the looniest Labour Party ever to power. Hell, the good ‘ol US of A seems to be a bastion of sanity in a world gone mad. Those flames are not over the fuel tax, it goes a lot deeper than that. They are tired of the globalist platform....Macron 18% approval. But what's sad is that France is doing what this country needed to do long ago. Rise up as citizens and start burning it until someone listens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 The French people are taking the saying the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots more to heart than we are as Americans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 The idea of nation states acting in their own interest was a time-honored principle of international relations. What the 20th century should have taught us is that when nation states FAIL to act decisively in their interest, catastrophe can result. Instead, the lesson learned was tying nations up in entities that act against the interests of those nations. And guess what, those institutions are imploding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Those flames are not over the fuel tax, it goes a lot deeper than that. They are tired of the globalist platform....Macron 18% approval. But what's sad is that France is doing what this country needed to do long ago. Rise up as citizens and start burning it until someone listens. Of course it is more than the tax. But most of the protesters are likely socialists or worse - not French patriots. The Brexit voters, however, are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bormio said: Of course it is more than the tax. But most of the protesters are likely socialists or worse - not French patriots. The Brexit voters, however, are. seems to be those yellow vests are in more than one country... civil unrest is generally not good....while change can be... This movement seems more 'coordinated' and international.....🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bormio said: Of course it is more than the tax. But most of the protesters are likely socialists or worse - not French patriots. The Brexit voters, however, are. And what evidence do u have that they are socialists? They are revolting against the globalism of Macron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Troll said: seems to be those yellow vests are in more than one country... civil unrest is generally not good....while change can be... This movement seems more 'coordinated' and international.....🤔 It's very coordinated....#thegreatawakening #wwg1wga lmaooo Think about it this way if you can get protests in the 60s and get people all the way to woodstock from across the country with no internet guess what we can do today with this technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: And what evidence do u have that they are socialists? They are revolting against the globalism of Macron Maybe socialists was the wrong term - perhaps anarchists fits better. Young people protesting in Paris are leftists until proved otherwise. There are those in France seeking a more French, and less European, tilt to French policy. I actually think Macron may be one of those. He does not necessarily see France in Europe - he sees France running Europe (with Merkel neutered as she is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bormio said: Maybe socialists was the wrong term - perhaps anarchists fits better. Young people protesting in Paris are leftists until proved otherwise. There are those in France seeking a more French, and less European, tilt to French policy. I actually think Macron may be one of those. He does not necessarily see France in Europe - he sees France running Europe (with Merkel neutered as she is). Well with an 18% approval rate it isnt working. So they want a policy that makes their country better and not just bend over to the EU...makes sense doesnt it. A lot of countries not signing the migration pact either. People are finally fed up. They want their country back. I dont believe its anarchy. I absolutely believe this is coordinated and they have a purpose. You maybe right. This article mentions that communists are leading the rebellion https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1055152/Macron-news-france-crisis-protests-end-of-macron-no-confidence-vote/amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Very good article in the wall street journal about Macron. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/macrons-warning-to-americas-ascendant-left-1544139254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 I think Trump was right to try and cultivate a relationship with Macron. Macron is French, not European. He is Napoleon reincarnated. Fissures are opening up in the EU nearly every day. We need to encourage them and exploit them. A potent EU should not be a long-term US strategic goal. A Europe of functioning nation states is preferable to us. The more the Germans run the financial affairs of the continent, the more restive the populations of the other European nations are going to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 9 hours ago, Bormio said: Paris is in flames over the fuel tax, Merkel has been forced from office over immigration, and Theresa May’s ongoing sabotage of Brexit has split the Tories in two and will likely crater her government and bring the looniest Labour Party ever to power. Hell, the good ‘ol US of A seems to be a bastion of sanity in a world gone mad. If you believe the bold, really believe it, and are not just doing your usual thing, then I must question your sanity myself. 😎 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Theresa May jetting all over Europe begging other countries to save her sorry ass. Churchill and Thatcher would be so proud. She forgot the first rule of negotiation- if you are not prepared to walk away - the other side has you by the short hairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Burn it to the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 hours ago, HSFBfan said: Burn it to the ground No they shouldn't. The yellow shirts are doing the same thing that Anifa does here. Both groups are wrong and should be fined and jailed. If you want to protest, then protest peacefully and in numbers. No need for looting as they are destroying your own neighborhoods and hurting the country financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 57 minutes ago, ohio said: No they shouldn't. The yellow shirts are doing the same thing that Anifa does here. Both groups are wrong and should be fined and jailed. If you want to protest, then protest peacefully and in numbers. No need for looting as they are destroying your own neighborhoods and hurting the country financially. They have made a point that I agree with unlike antifa who I absolutely disagree with. Burn it to the ground. Voting doesnt work Oh and btw their message is working. If you want a strong leader in Europe look no further than Italy. His message is resonating with the masses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: They have made a point that I agree with unlike antifa who I absolutely disagree with. Burn it to the ground. Voting doesnt work Oh and btw their message is working. Just because you agree with it does not make it right. Looting should not be tolerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, ohio said: Just because you agree with it does not make it right. Looting should not be tolerated. Like I said voting is not working. Their message is finally being heard. Macron should be removed soon. Strongest 2 countries in Europe Italy and Poland. Everg country should try to be like those leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Macron will serve his term until 2022. May on the other hand is in deep, and likely fatal, political trouble. She will soon face a Conservative no confidence vote, and even if survives that, may well lose one brought by Labour in the HoC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bormio said: Macron will serve his term until 2022. May on the other hand is in deep, and likely fatal, political trouble. She will soon face a Conservative no confidence vote, and even if survives that, may well lose one brought by Labour in the HoC. Macron is facing a no confidence vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohio Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Like I said voting is not working. Their message is finally being heard. Macron should be removed soon. Strongest 2 countries in Europe Italy and Poland. Everg country should try to be like those leaders. How do you know? Ever lived in either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, ohio said: How do you know? Ever lived in either? Read man. Read the articles and the attitude of the leaders. No but if this country wants to keep going down the path of illegals taxes I'll consider moving to where my grandfather lived....bari Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 10:14 PM, Bormio said: The idea of nation states acting in their own interest was a time-honored principle of international relations. What the 20th century should have taught us is that when nation states FAIL to act decisively in their interest, catastrophe can result. Instead, the lesson learned was tying nations up in entities that act against the interests of those nations. And guess what, those institutions are imploding. Yes, the rise of nationalism, which was a 19th-century development in Europe, and the two great wars of the first half of the 20th century which resulted from it, showed us all just how important it is for nation states to "act decisively in their interest". It's always fun to see what's bouncing around inside the heads of the usually suspects. Keep at it, boys. Here's to many more insightful political posts on the high school football forum. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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