sausmann9 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true I'm very suspect of their very first pick so I really didn't go too much further down the list. enjoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Florida- 51 players (about 10 IMG kids) Texas- 46 players California- 22 players. (Not bad for the most populated State in the country- 40 Million people). 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Wow... ESPN better get it together.. They have Mater Dei and Duncanville QB's (Bryce Young and J.Jackson) both rated 4-Star with a 86 rating. Someone at ESPN is going to have to answer for this!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, Texasfrog said: Florida- 51 players (about 10 IMG kids) Texas- 46 players California- 22 players. (Not bad for the most populated State in the country- 40 Million people). Using population to support your point is lazy. It should be based on the number of high school students that actually play football. Putting the millions of transplants and illegals that come to California every year in that pool doesn't make sense what so ever, besides fluffing up your narrative. Obviously the football culture in Texas is significantly better than California. We all know that. Texas has significantly more high school students that play football than California (more than any other state in the country I believe). By that logic, you guys should dominate the rankings every single year. Here's some interesting data: https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-states-produce-tons-of-fbs-talent/ Georgia & Florida are much more impressive states to me than Texas recruiting wise. You'd think a state like Texas that eats, sleeps, & breaths football 24/7 would be more impressive, as opposed to a state like California, where politicians are actively trying to shut down the sport. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Also ESPN rankings suck. That's no secret 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, mje44 said: Using population to support your point is lazy. It should be based on the number of high school students that actually play football. Putting the millions of transplants and illegals that come to California every year in that pool doesn't make sense what so ever, besides fluffing up your narrative. Obviously the football culture in Texas is significantly better than California. We all know that. Texas has significantly more high school students that play football than California (more than any other state in the country I believe). By that logic, you guys should dominate the rankings every single year. Here's some interesting data: https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-states-produce-tons-of-fbs-talent/ Georgia & Florida are much more impressive states to me than Texas recruiting wise. You'd think a state like Texas that eats, sleeps, & breaths football 24/7 would be more impressive, as opposed to a state like California, where politicians are actively trying to shut down the sport. LOL.. ya, Texas doesn't have any immigrants from Mexico/Central America coming into it. Ha-ha-ha Also... current events probably isn't your strong point. But Texas is one of the fastest growing States in the Country. Some of that growth is California transplants moving to Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, mje44 said: Also ESPN rankings suck. That's no secret Ok.. that's your answer. Got it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Texasfrog said: LOL.. ya, Texas doesn't have any immigrants from Mexico/Central America coming into it. Ha-ha-ha So from the full paragraph of facts that I just wrote, that's the only thing you comment on? ha-ha-ha 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Texasfrog said: Ok.. that's your answer. Got it! I don't care about Bryce Young's ranking. I understand why someone would rank him a 4star, he's tiny. ESPN's rankings just suck in general, regardless of state. For example, Drew Sanders (a Texan) is a clear 5star in my book. ESPN clearly isn't thorough in its evaluation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, mje44 said: So from the full paragraph of facts that I just wrote, that's the only thing you comment on? Your points were... California has transplants and illegal immigrants coming into it boosting up its population. Yes.. I laugh at that because your basically saying that Texas (another Border State) doesn't have 1,000's upon 1,000's of Illegal Immigrants streaming into it. Also.. Texas is one of the fastest growing States in American with transplants from other States. California being one of the States people are moving from. Texas apparently does pretty well with the Football prospects too. ESPN Scouts say 46 of the top 300 High School players in America are from Texas. What is that? About 20% almost.. Not bad for One State (Texas). California has freaking 40 Million people in it.. (22 of the Top 300 kids in America). Not a good look. I can see why Private School teams like Mater Dei and St.Johns Bosco feel like they need to go scan the local Southern Cal region and steal everyones good players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, mje44 said: So from the full paragraph of facts that I just wrote, that's the only thing you comment on? ha-ha-ha Take it easy on the poor guy. He's from texas. He doesn't know better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, mje44 said: I don't care about Bryce Young's ranking. I understand why someone would rank him a 4star, he's tiny. ESPN's rankings just suck in general, regardless of state. For example, Drew Sanders (a Texan) is a clear 5star in my book. ESPN clearly isn't thorough in its evaluation Kyler Murray is smaller (5'10) and he was 5-Star, Heisman winner and NFL 1st overall pick. Size with QB's doesn't matter as much as it did 10 years ago with these Spread/Zone Read offensives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, AztecPadre said: Take it easy on the poor guy. He's from texas. He doesn't know better. Sorry.. Your fellow California member seem to not realize that Texas is a Border State too. With a much longer border with Mexico too. Ha-ha-ha. But I know... You guess are all Intellectuals.. Just ask you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Texasfrog said: Your points were... California has transplants and illegal immigrants coming into it boosting up its population. Yes.. I laugh at that because your basically saying that Texas (another Border State) doesn't have 1,000's upon 1,000's of Illegal Immigrants streaming into it. Also.. Texas is one of the fastest growing States in American with transplants from other States. California being one of the States people are moving from. Texas apparently does pretty well with the Football prospects too. ESPN Scouts say 46 of the top 300 High School players in America are from Texas. What is that? About 20% almost.. Not bad for One State (Texas). California has freaking 40 Million people in it.. (22 of the Top 300 kids in America). Not a good look. I can see why Private School teams like Mater Dei and St.Johns Bosco feel like they need to go scan the local Southern Cal region and steal everyones good players. No here's my point: The average high school football player in California is more likely to get a D1 scholarship than the average HSFB player in Texas, according to that data. Not a good look for a state in which football is literally embedded in the culture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Texasfrog said: Kyler Murray is smaller (5'10) and he was 5-Star, Heisman winner and NFL 1st overall pick. Size with QB's doesn't matter as much as it did 10 years ago with these Spread/Zone Read offensives. Kyler is also arguably the greatest HSFB player of all time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, mje44 said: No here's my point: The average high school football player in California is more likely to get a D1 scholarship than the average HSFB player in Texas, according to that data. Not a good look for a state in which football is literally embedded in the culture. Come on, Texas football rosters are also typically larger, with much larger sub varsity teams. Those kids in a lot of cases don’t impact the core or elite numbers and ride the bench for most of their HS experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, mje44 said: Kyler is also arguably the greatest HSFB player of all time. ...and a transfer who many say never really lived in Allen. Texas homers will say he transferred for “academic” reasons or “a better economic opportunity”. LOL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Come on, Texas football rosters are also typically larger, with much larger sub varsity teams. Those kids in a lot of cases don’t impact the core or elite numbers and ride the bench for most of their HS experience. The kids in Texas riding the bench are much more relevant to the statistic than the 40million+ people in California that don't even play football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Texasfrog said: (Not bad for the most populated State in the country- 40 Million people). 40M in CA don’t participate in the sport. The valid factor to look at is the number of players participating in a given State. Don’t be naive and stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Colonel said: ...and a transfer who many say never really lived in Allen. Texas homers will say he transferred for “academic” reasons or “a better economic opportunity”. LOL. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mje44 Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, ThunderRam said: 40M in CA don’t participate in the sport. The valid factor to look at is the number of players participating in a given State. Don’t be naive and stupid. bingo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, ThunderRam said: 40M in CA don’t participate in the sport. The valid factor to look at is the number of players participating in a given State. Don’t be naive and stupid. Good suggestions, but way too late for that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, mje44 said: The kids in Texas riding the bench are much more relevant to the statistic than the 40million+ people in California that don't even play football. I only commented on your post when you stated it’s not a good look for our state. Regardless, TX participation is misleading based on the factors I stated, it’s hardly a quality indicator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, The Colonel said: ...and a transfer who many say never really lived in Allen. Texas homers will say he transferred for “academic” reasons or “a better economic opportunity”. LOL. Except for the RE agent that handled the family’s property. I’m surprised you didn’t quote the poster from the TX site as this very issue was recently discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 54 minutes ago, Texasfrog said: Some of that growth is California transplants moving to Texas. Yet CA still has 40M. FWIW, people move from TX to CA too. You gonna bother to provide anything of substance, such as the legit football participation numbers for TX and CA? Or are lazy, nonsensical jabs all we can expect from you in the future? Asking for a friend.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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