noonereal Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 @thc6795 Trump just said that 2 million Americans would have died had he not closed down the country. Kinda flies in the face of what you have been saying yet you keep in lockstep with him. Can you explain this seeming contradiction? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Its simple math...c'mon you can do it...just elimate your biased hatred. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, noonereal said: @thc6795 Trump just said that 2 million Americans would have died had he not closed down the country. Kinda flies in the face of what you have been saying yet you keep in lockstep with him. Can you explain this seeming contradiction? Yeah he just like all of us believed these experts were right with their graphs and models. They were all WRONG. Garbage in garbage out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, thc6795 said: Yeah he just like all of us believed these experts were right with their graphs and models. They were all WRONG. Garbage in garbage out. Yep...as of today the virus has killed 42,560 US citizens. I mean if it can't kill 50,000 in 45 days...how bad can it be? Right? Come on...give it a chance !!!! Rufus>> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Rufus69 said: Yep...as of today the virus has killed 42,560 US citizens. I mean if it can't kill 50,000 in 45 days...how bad can it be? Right? Come on...give it a chance !!!! Rufus>> Two months ago that 42,500 was 2 million. Only off by little bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Two months ago that 42,500 was 2 million. Only off by little bit. If I'm understanding you....you don't think 42,560 deaths in 45 DAYS is enough? Makes you wonder what it will be by December 31st. It basically tells me social distancing and shutting down has been effective. VERY effective. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: If I'm understanding you....you don't think 42,560 deaths in 45 DAYS is enough? Makes you wonder what it will be by December 31st. It basically tells me social distancing and shutting down has been effective. VERY effective. Rufus>> I never said that. What I'm saying is we have been told for months two million bed die then one million the 100's of thousands to now 69k. All these models were wrong. We shut down our economy based off these models. And I'm not buying that number of death. Not when NY is classifying every cause if death Wuhan. 36% of the United States deaths come from NY. Not buying it. Not when Mayor De Blasio just told us that he had his department of health to classify almost 4800 deaths to Wuhan, because he believes they were probable. Now he is a Dr? Forget that not one of those people had been tested. Forget that not one of those people had shown signs of the Wuhan. Nope all dead by Wuhan. Read the cares act. Look how much money the department of health was given. Two billion dollars. Now look at how it's distributed. Did you know hospitals recieve a 20% bonus for treating Wuhan cases? Read it. It's right there in the cares act. Did you know Dr and nurses are being furloughed or just let go across America. Because they have no work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, thc6795 said: I never said that. What I'm saying is we have been told for months two million bed die then one million the 100's of thousands to now 69k. All these models were wrong. We shut down our economy based off these models. And I'm not buying that number of death. Not when NY is classifying every cause if death Wuhan. 36% of the United States deaths come from NY. Not buying it. Not when Mayor De Blasio just told us that he had his department of health to classify almost 4800 deaths to Wuhan, because he believes they were probable. Now he is a Dr? Forget that not one of those people had been tested. Forget that not one of those people had shown signs of the Wuhan. Nope all dead by Wuhan. Read the cares act. Look how much money the department of health was given. Two billion dollars. Now look at how it's distributed. Did you know hospitals recieve a 20% bonus for treating Wuhan cases? Read it. It's right there in the cares act. Did you know Dr and nurses are being furloughed or just let go across America. Because they have no work? Hospitals and doctors offices are empty. Two of our staff have been furloughed, the others have had hours cut. We are closed on Fridays now. Pt load is off 40-50%. No elective surgeries. MRI exams and CT scans being delayed. There is going to be considerable excess mortality and morbidity from this. And I live in a county with 14 cases and no deaths. South Carolina may get out of this with 200-250 statewide deaths - many involving people with limited life expectancy. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bormio said: Hospitals and doctors offices are empty. Two of our staff have been furloughed, the others have had hours cut. We are closed on Fridays now. Pt load is off 40-50%. No elective surgeries. MRI exams and CT scans being delayed. There is going to be considerable excess mortality and morbidity from this. And I live in a county with 14 cases and no deaths. South Carolina may get out of this with 200-250 statewide deaths - many involving people with limited life expectancy. Yeah this was the virus to end all viruses. Hospitals across America wouldn't be able to handle the workload. Dead people would be stacked on top of each other in hallways. 100s of thousands of ventilators needed. All bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, thc6795 said: Yeah this was the virus to end all viruses. Hospitals across America wouldn't be able to handle the workload. Dead people would be stacked on top of each other in hallways. 100s of thousands of ventilators needed. All bullshit. Yep. I am in one of the largest and most populated counties in CA....2 deaths this month so far. Two! And that is a great thing. But fuck were these models way off in terms of the death toll of the dreaded Wuhan Virus FROM CHINA. And now the Stanford epidemiologists are saying that 50-85 times more people in the bay area are infected than we think after doing a random sample. That would put the mortality rate at like .002%. The virus is real and it sucks that people have died....BUT this is fucking bullshit. China sucks. Dcraps suck. The media sucks worst of all....and the people who fall for this BS so easily suck as well. We killed our economy over this shit. The collateral, long term, and social damage is gong to be worse than this cold virus could ever be. And now it's no shock that the dcraps and media are doing anything and everything to keep the economy closed as the election gets closer. FUCKTHEM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 12 hours ago, thc6795 said: Yeah he just like all of us believed these experts were right with their graphs and models. They were all WRONG. Garbage in garbage out. that is not what he said. he implied the projections were correct and that closing down the country made the differance why did he have to close it down to drop the deaths if it's a hoax? see, you are cornered now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, noonereal said: that is not what he said. he implied the projections were correct and that closing down the country made the differance why did he have to close it down to drop the deaths if it's a hoax? see, you are cornered now Ive never said it was a hoax nor. I said the numbers dont add up and they dont. As to why Trump says half the shit he does I cant answer that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 thc6795 continually moving the goalposts of what's considered a significant amount of deaths. On 3/16/2020 at 9:51 AM, thc6795 said: Bell so far 69 people have died in the US from Wuhan coronavirus and we have basically shut down. The media is keeping a death toll like this was Viet Nam. On 3/21/2020 at 9:34 AM, thc6795 said: Right now there have been 275 total deaths in America caused by the Chinese Virus. Compare that to 22,000 people dying from the flu this yr. On 3/23/2020 at 9:03 AM, thc6795 said: Ive never said the virus was not legit. Ive alsways said the numbers dont match up and they dont. less than 500 people have died in the USA and you cant buy fucking shit paper. On 4/8/2020 at 5:23 AM, thc6795 said: Of that 14k dead how many actually died from the Wuhan? Do you know? Does anyone? On 4/14/2020 at 10:40 AM, thc6795 said: I get over 20k have died.Or they tell us over 20k have died from Wuhan. We really dont know how many because if you have a cough and die of a heart attack they say it was the Wuhan. 10 hours ago, thc6795 said: Two months ago that 42,500 was 2 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 10 hours ago, Bormio said: Hospitals and doctors offices are empty. Two of our staff have been furloughed, the others have had hours cut. We are closed on Fridays now. Pt load is off 40-50%. No elective surgeries. MRI exams and CT scans being delayed. There is going to be considerable excess mortality and morbidity from this. And I live in a county with 14 cases and no deaths. South Carolina may get out of this with 200-250 statewide deaths - many involving people with limited life expectancy. Dr. @Bormio shows his face for once after his countless humiliations in the early weeks of this virus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Ive never said it was a hoax nor. I said the numbers dont add up and they dont. As to why Trump says half the shit he does I cant answer that. It seems obvious to me, a New Yorker, that the million mark was very realistic if we did not address this with closures. 40,000 in one month... with a national shutdown. Think about that. peace out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, noonereal said: It seems obvious to me, a New Yorker, that the million mark was very realistic if we did not address this with closures. 40,000 in one month... with a national shutdown. Think about that. peace out Nor I am not buying 40k dead. How can you when DeBlasio is telling the health department how to classify deaths? Did you read the Cares Act nor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Nor I am not buying 40k dead. How can you when DeBlasio is telling the health department how to classify deaths? Did you read the Cares Act nor? god bless don't share this opinion with the healthcare workers here in NYC, i think they'd attack ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Nor I am not buying 40k dead. More evidence that, in fact, there is an under-count all around the world. 28,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Crisis In the last month, far more people died in these countries than in previous years, The New York Times found. The totals include deaths from Covid-19 as well as those from other causes, likely including people who could not be treated as hospitals became overwhelmed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, noonereal said: god bless don't share this opinion with the healthcare workers here in NYC, i think they'd attack ya Have you read the Cares Act nor? You do realize there are healthcare professionals in NY who are questioning the numbers, right? Yeah I know, they are all full of shit. The only real healthcare professionals agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Guru said: More evidence that, in fact, there is an under-count all around the world. of course it's an under count. unless you believe in conspiracy theories and wtf would be the point of a conspiracy as to deaths? it's just silly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Have you read the Cares Act nor? The incompetence of this guy is staggering. He refuses to accept any truth outside of his bubble and just keeps repeating charges like "did you read the CARES Act?" as if a piece of legislation has anything to do with the number of people dying all over the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, thc6795 said: You do realize there are healthcare professionals in NY who are questioning the numbers, right? Yeah I know, they are all full of shit. The only real healthcare professionals agree with you. This reminds me of climate change denial. "There are a couple of scientists who disagree! I know that they're the vast minority but there!" If delusional people like thc6795 can find one person with credentials who will back up their claims then he will take it and never believe a single word of the "official" story. But something like Benghazi, for instance, which had 10 official investigations and none found any wrongdoing, will always have some nefarious back story. People like him are never swayed by facts or evidence or common sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Have you read the Cares Act nor? You do realize there are healthcare professionals in NY who are questioning the numbers, right? Yeah I know, they are all full of shit. The only real healthcare professionals agree with you. He’s the kind of the guy that sucks I was referring to in my previous post. He’s a guy that roots for the virus, loves the unethical, dishonest (like himself) media, and wants Trump and America to fail so badly that he can taste it, and so it can be transformed into socialist “new norm” as they’re beginning to call it, and is willing to accept the price no matter how high it is. The new norm- scary times. Trump has gotta win and the GOP must win the senate. I’ve donated a lot of money to both...it’s literally life or death for America. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Blueliner said: He’s the kind of the guy that sucks I was referring to in my previous post. He’s a guy that roots for the virus, loves the unethical, dishonest (like himself) media, and wants Trump and America to fail so badly that he can taste it, and so it can be transformed into socialist “new norm” as they’re beginning to call it, and is willing to accept the price no matter how high it is. The new norm- scary times. Trump has gotta win and the GOP must win the senate. I’ve donated a lot of money to both...it’s literally life or death for America. Says a guy who admitted to voting for a candidate that he claimed "hated America's values" On 2/20/2017 at 1:40 AM, Blueliner said: This was the first time in 16 years that I've voted non-democrat. Much like certain states that the libtards were counting on. On 1/28/2018 at 10:22 PM, Blueliner said: Nobama, to me, is anti-American. Straight up. Dude hates America’s values and belief system. I suppose you can try to convince me otherwise. I’ll listen if you choose to opine. 💩 It's impossible to make this stuff up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 21, 2020 Report Share Posted April 21, 2020 19 hours ago, thc6795 said: Two months ago that 42,500 was 2 million. Only off by little bit. Two months ago, it was: " ... only fifteen cases and like magic one day it will disappear" ... how did that turn out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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