imaGoodBoyNow Posted April 24, 2020 Report Share Posted April 24, 2020 Always thought it would be bin laden or a asteroid taking us all out never did I think it would be a microscopic bacteria to do it well we had a good run America, what was it 220 year run we had? We made smart phones and put man on moon, we done good job I can hang my hat on https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/civilizations-collapse.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 Nope it will be the aliens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Always thought it would be bin laden or a asteroid taking us all out never did I think it would be a microscopic bacteria to do it well we had a good run America, what was it 220 year run we had? We made smart phones and put man on moon, we done good job I can hang my hat on https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/civilizations-collapse.htm But did we really? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted April 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, I AM IRONMAN said: Nope it will be the aliens 1 hour ago, AztecPadre said: But did we really? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 13 hours ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Always thought it would be bin laden or a asteroid taking us all out never did I think it would be a microscopic bacteria to do it well we had a good run America, what was it 220 year run we had? We made smart phones and put man on moon, we done good job I can hang my hat on https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/civilizations-collapse.htm Hint - it won't be a virus. If US society collapses, it will be because Americans decide to "burn the house down." It certainly could happen. Will it? Probably not in my lifetime, but in yours, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 hours ago, DarterBlue said: Hint - it won't be a virus. If US society collapses, it will be because Americans decide to "burn the house down." It certainly could happen. Will it? Probably not in my lifetime, but in yours, who knows? You could be right. However, even during this obviously strange and unsettling times we are in, we have a tremendous opportunity to do things differently than we have been. How many opportunities do societies, and the world at large, get to fix things that are obviously broken and put us back on a sustainable and equitable path to the future? This is such a moment and all we need is the will to do so. We already have good ideas out there. The virus has shown us how capitalism, despite the talk of how great the economy is, isn't set up to handle crisis'. And mostly all of us are 1 extended hospital visit away from financial ruin or 1 natural disaster away from ruin, unless you are the 1% that is. Unsustainable IMO. While we have been shutdown, we have drastically lowered pollution. This should be eye opening for those who think that we don't have much of an impact on our planet. Opportunities on the environmental front are right in front of us and easy to recognize. I don't see us taking advantage of these opportunities due to the populace pointing fingers at each other and our elected working for big business and special interest. I'm not sure why the denial of science (depending on your politics) has taken root in our country. I get why special interest push that agenda but for the citizens to buy into it doesn't make sense. Emotional over reason? Maybe it will take an even greater crisis for us to get our priorities where they should be. IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, World Citizen said: I don't see us taking advantage of these opportunities due to the populace pointing fingers at each other and our elected working for big business and special interest. I'm not sure why the denial of science (depending on your politics) has taken root in our country. I get why special interest push that agenda but for the citizens to buy into it doesn't make sense. Emotional over reason? The Democratic establishment basically torpedoed the candidacy of the one person running that wanted to seriously pursue a different path. One that in my opinion could have taken the country in such a direction. I don't hold out hope that their position will change anytime soon. So, we are left with Republican lite (the Dems), and old candidate who is probably in the early stages of dementia, and the far, crazed right (DJT's supporters), for the days of the Bushs' are done. This is not a good place to be where sustainability is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: The Democratic establishment basically torpedoed the candidacy of the one person running that wanted to seriously pursue a different path. One that in my opinion could have taken the country in such a direction. I don't hold out hope that their position will change anytime soon. So, we are left with Republican lite (the Dems), and old candidate who is probably in the early stages of dementia, and the far, crazed right (DJT's supporters), for the days of the Bushs' are done. This is not a good place to be where sustainability is concerned. Yeah, out of a country of 330 million and the best we can come up with is Trump and Biden, we can't say we didn't deserve what comes. Not very encouraging. But there was little hope for 'middle earth' either and look how they bounced back with the help of a couple of hobbits and a wizard, dwarf, elf, and a king. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, World Citizen said: Yeah, out of a country of 330 million and the best we can come up with is Trump and Biden, we can't say we didn't deserve what comes. Not very encouraging. But there was little hope for 'middle earth' either and look how they bounced back with the help of a couple of hobbits and a wizard, dwarf, elf, and a king. My younger child's favorite piece of literature and film! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, World Citizen said: Yeah, out of a country of 330 million and the best we can come up with is Trump and Biden, we can't say we didn't deserve what comes. Not very encouraging. But there was little hope for 'middle earth' either and look how they bounced back with the help of a couple of hobbits and a wizard, dwarf, elf, and a king. A megalomaniacal man-child vs. “Sunsetting Joe” If nothing else, America will be entertained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Hardcore Troubador said: A megalomaniacal man-child vs. “Sunsetting Joe” If nothing else, America will be entertained. I believe that's the whole point. Screw the citizenry while they are distracted by the spectacle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 22 hours ago, Hardcore Troubador said: A megalomaniacal man-child vs. “Sunsetting Joe” If nothing else, America will be entertained. Glass half full huh? I can appreciate that. Lol @ megalomaniacal. Scrabble brilliance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 On 4/25/2020 at 1:43 PM, World Citizen said: 1) The virus has shown us how capitalism, despite the talk of how great the economy is, isn't set up to handle crisis'. 2) This should be eye opening for those who think that we don't have much of an impact on our planet. 3) Maybe it will take an even greater crisis for us to get our priorities where they should be. IMHO. 1) maybe not, but apparently it is better than socialism or communism at it ........as virus proven...(BTW: always knew you were a commie...) 2) You might want to clarify how you think we are "somehow" polluting less without the gov and other watchdogs being active...less c02 from cars ? 🙄 3) Of course you would say something TOTALLY RIDICULOUS like this....here's a clue...you are not going to 'force subservience' with crisis... ...or take down capitalism... commie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 On 4/26/2020 at 11:35 AM, Troll said: 1) maybe not, but apparently it is better than socialism or communism at it ........as virus proven...(BTW: always knew you were a commie...) WRONG 2) You might want to clarify how you think we are "somehow" polluting less without the gov and other watchdogs being active...less c02 from cars ? 🙄 I might but I don't want to clarify. Obvious is what comes to mind. 3) Of course you would say something TOTALLY RIDICULOUS like this....here's a clue...you are not going to 'force subservience' with crisis... Do you think this country has it's priorities in order? Subservience? WTF? Couldn't be more off base. ...or take down capitalism... commie Dummy For the love of all that is holy, you insist on making the same mistakes. You assume way too much and you are wrong every time you do that. I'll let you in on something that should be obvious. Unless I specifically state something like "I want to take down capitalism" or "socialism and communism is better than capitalism", you should not assume that that is what I meant. Not sure how you even came to that conclusion anyway. Moral of the story, just ask what I meant instead of being wrong with your ridiculous assumptions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just now, World Citizen said: For the love of all that is holy, you insist on making the same mistakes. You assume way too much and you are wrong every time you do that. I'll let you in on something that should be obvious. Unless I specifically state something like "I want to take down capitalism" or "socialism and communism is better than capitalism", you should not assume that that is what I meant. Not sure how you even came to that conclusion anyway. Moral of the story, just ask what I meant instead of being wrong with your ridiculous assumptions. ok ok lol.... just such an anti capitalism post from you is all... Monday morning is over... we retired our grumpyness... 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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