HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 the ruling is about to officially break John roberts once again rules against trump This is for the case with the Manhatten DA 7-2 so it wasn't close The other one is with congress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 It will go back to the district level were trump lawyer can argue constitutional protections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: the ruling is about to officially break John roberts once again rules against trump This is for the case with the Manhatten DA 7-2 so it wasn't close The other one is with congress To me it's pretty clear Roberts has turned against Trump. That's the only way I can understand some of his recent votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, DarterBlue said: To me it's pretty clear Roberts has turned against Trump. That's the only way I can understand some of his recent votes. I agree. He did fall and hit his head last month. Maybe he has some cognitive issues due to the fall. Not making a slight or fun of it. Just a plausible assumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 its very interesting as the supreme court basically opened up lawsuits in the future against every president for criminal investigation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: I agree. He did fall and hit his head last month. Maybe he has some cognitive issues due to the fall. Not making a slight or fun of it. Just a plausible assumption So, you think the fall may have swayed him to go full liberal? I don't think so, but who knows. I think he just does not care for Trump and that some of his decisions have been influenced by this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, DarterBlue said: So, you think the fall may have swayed him to go full liberal? I don't think so, but who knows. I think he just does not care for Trump and that some of his decisions have been influenced by this. Which he really should be thrown off the bench then. Justice is supposed to be blind. Your supposed to look at the case and look at precdent and make a decision. If your making a decision based on love or hate of a certain person you should not be a judge lawyer etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Now on a different response trump 2 selections for scotus ruled against him as well. So was the case that cut and dry?? It was a 7-2 ruling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Trump return has been blocked from congress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 What is the over/under on the number of hours it takes for the returns to be leaked after they are delivered? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Just now, concha said: What is the over/under on the number of hours it takes for the returns to be leaked after they are delivered? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: To me it's pretty clear Roberts has turned against Trump. That's the only way I can understand some of his recent votes. Actually both of these rulings were spot on IMO. While I'm sure the SDNY is still going on a fishing expedition, they at least provided a specific charge/case for requesting the info. IIRC, they're doing a tax fraud case on one of his buildings or something. Hence, they're legally entitled to that information. Congress' request was a joke from the start, and was rightfully smacked down as being far too broad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Lets not forget the only reason trump isn't in jail now is because it was ruled he was too ignorant to be held accountable for his actions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Nobody is going to see these returns before the election. Trump won without winning. This is a dead issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, Bormio said: Nobody is going to see these returns before the election. Trump won without winning. This is a dead issue. More than likely nobody will see them before November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: More than likely nobody will see them before November There is zero chance anyone will see them before November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 This will upset some here, but as a centrist we need the Supreme Court to rule partisan free... some are predictable votes but it needs to remain neutral and free of the garbage partisan thinking that has infected everything. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 34 minutes ago, Bormio said: There is zero chance anyone will see them before November Well that could be good But what if there is nothing in them. He could be completely exonerated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: This will upset some here, but as a centrist we need the Supreme Court to rule partisan free... some are predictable votes but it needs to remain neutral and free of the garbage partisan thinking that has infected everything. bgw The Supreme Court should not be partisan, but that does not mean the same as centrist. The Court should follow the law and ultimately the Constitution - no matter whether that takes them left, right or center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Well that could be good But what if there is nothing in them. He could be completely exonerated Trump can release them anytime. He has chosen not to - whether you believe due to principle or trying to hide something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Bormio said: Trump can release them anytime. He has chosen not to - whether you believe due to principle or trying to hide something He didn't because he doesn't have too. That's why congress didn't get them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 It would be incredibly smart for him to release his returns before the last debate. If he is hiding tax fraud then maybe he doesn't but if it's only about his money, then Who Really Gives A Damn if he doesn't have as much money as he claims in liquid assets/accounts. A lot of people pretend they have more money than they do. Same can be said for IQ's. People with agendas will always play unfair... that goes for both parties! “I worry about Joe Biden debating Donald Trump,” New York Times opinion columnist Thomas Friedman wrote on Tuesday. Friedman is likely not the only liberal pundit sweating at the prospect. Donald Trump, for all his ineloquence, is a brutal debater, well used to ripping his opponents apart with off-the-cuff insults and jibes. Joe Biden, by contrast, mumbles and fumbles his way even through prepared statements, and often forgets where he is, what he’s talking about, and confuses figures. If Trump confuses figures ''It Is Lying''... Not so with Biden... How fair is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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