Nolebull813 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 @954gator remember Rashean Mathis? Baller for the jags. Didn’t have a HoF career but he was one of those guys that gets lost in time but he was a playmaker if you watched football at that time. Mid-2000’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted January 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Any other states gonna give this a shot or do I have to do the ones for TX, GA, CA, LA and Ohio? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Cali Coach Joe Gibbs QB Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers, Warren Moon, John Elway, Dan Fouts RB Marcus Allen, OJ Simpson, Ollie Matson FB Lorenzo Neal, Joe Perry WR Lynn Swann, James Lofton, Henry Ellard, Keyshawn Johnson TE Tony Gonzalez T Anthony Munoz, Gary Zimmerman, Ron Yary, Bob St Clair, Ron Mix G Bruce Matthews, Larry Allen, Max Montoya C Bruce Matthews*, Mel Hein DE Jared Allen, Greg Townsend DT LaRoi Glover, Dan Saleaumua LB Junior Seau, Hardy Nickerson, Joey Porter, Chad Brown CB Mike Haynes, Eric Allen, Dave Grayson, Chris McCallister SS Troy Polamalu, Tim McDonald FS Ronnie Lott, Marcus Robertson K Norm Johnson P Jeff Feagles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: @954gator remember Rashean Mathis? Baller for the jags. Didn’t have a HoF career but he was one of those guys that gets lost in time but he was a playmaker if you watched football at that time. Mid-2000’s Yes I was gonna actually mention him. A lot of elite players get lost on small market teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: Cali Coach Joe Gibbs QB Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers, Warren Moon, John Elway, Dan Fouts RB Marcus Allen, OJ Simpson, Ollie Matson FB Lorenzo Neal, Joe Perry WR Lynn Swann, James Lofton, Henry Ellard, Keyshawn Johnson TE Tony Gonzalez T Anthony Munoz, Gary Zimmerman, Ron Yary, Bob St Clair, Ron Mix G Bruce Matthews, Larry Allen, Max Montoya C Bruce Matthews*, Mel Hein DE Jared Allen, Greg Townsend DT LaRoi Glover, Dan Saleaumua LB Junior Seau, Hardy Nickerson, Joey Porter, Chad Brown CB Mike Haynes, Eric Allen, Dave Grayson, Chris McCallister SS Troy Polamalu, Tim McDonald FS Ronnie Lott, Marcus Robertson K Norm Johnson P Jeff Feagles Didn’t Polamalu go to HS in Oregon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Cali Coach Joe Gibbs QB Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, John Elway RB Marcus Allen, OJ Simpson, Ollie Matson FB Lorenzo Neal, Joe Perry WR Lynn Swann, James Lofton, Steve Smith, Davante Adams, Michael Thomas TE Tony Gonzalez T Anthony Munoz, Gary Zimmerman, Ron Yary, Bob St Clair, Ron Mix G Bruce Matthews, Larry Allen, Max Montoya C Bruce Matthews*, Mel Hein DE Jared Allen, Greg Townsend DT LaRoi Glover, Jurrell Casey, Keith Millard, Darrell Russell LB Junior Seau, Hardy Nickerson, Lance Briggs, Bobby Wagner, Clay Matthews CB Mike Haynes, Eric Allen, Dave Grayson, Chris McCallister, Namdi Asomugha, Richard Sherman SS Troy Polamalu, Tim McDonald FS Ronnie Lott, Marcus Robertson K Norm Johnson P Jeff Feagles Updates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, 954gator said: Didn’t Polamalu go to HS in Oregon? I think so. It’s tough because some people were born in a state but prepped elsewhere. So it’s a matter of opinion and criteria. Andrew Luck was born in DC and moved to Texas at 12. He prepped his entire HSFB career in TX. Does DC get credit or TX? it all depends on criteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted January 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: Cali Coach Joe Gibbs QB Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers, Warren Moon, John Elway, Dan Fouts RB Marcus Allen, OJ Simpson, Ollie Matson FB Lorenzo Neal, Joe Perry WR Lynn Swann, James Lofton, Henry Ellard, Keyshawn Johnson TE Tony Gonzalez T Anthony Munoz, Gary Zimmerman, Ron Yary, Bob St Clair, Ron Mix G Bruce Matthews, Larry Allen, Max Montoya C Bruce Matthews*, Mel Hein DE Jared Allen, Greg Townsend DT LaRoi Glover, Dan Saleaumua LB Junior Seau, Hardy Nickerson, Joey Porter, Chad Brown CB Mike Haynes, Eric Allen, Dave Grayson, Chris McCallister SS Troy Polamalu, Tim McDonald FS Ronnie Lott, Marcus Robertson K Norm Johnson P Jeff Feagles Good start but I'll have to update the list later to fit the format I listed on page one because it has to be the same format across the board so the comparison is fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Both Travis Henry and Derrick Henry could be on the roster as well. Both close/at the top of the H.S. record book and NFL careers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: I think so. It’s tough because some people were born in a state but prepped elsewhere. So it’s a matter of opinion and criteria. Andrew Luck was born in DC and moved to Texas at 12. He prepped his entire HSFB career in TX. Does DC get credit or TX? it all depends on criteria I usually go by HS, but it doesn't matter much I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted January 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, 954gator said: I usually go by HS, but it doesn't matter much I guess. probably but in this case I requiring they are born and played high school in the state as well as made it to the NFL so it will become interesting with a few of these positions which is why I'm limiting it to a few states also @Nolebull813 I will now be adding Pennsylvania to the list of states and once I have went through both CA lists above I'll send it over so you can see what positions remain open, some of the ones you had listed were born in another state and were disqualified as a result but sadly for CA I'm only allowing 2 QBs so probably their deepest position is gonna have multiple HOF players left out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: I think so. It’s tough because some people were born in a state but prepped elsewhere. So it’s a matter of opinion and criteria. Andrew Luck was born in DC and moved to Texas at 12. He prepped his entire HSFB career in TX. Does DC get credit or TX? it all depends on criteria neither since to be eligible the player had to have done both in the same state so sadly Luck won't be considered for either on this exercise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 43 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: neither since to be eligible the player had to have done both in the same state so sadly Luck won't be considered for either on this exercise I don’t think he gives a shit. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted January 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: I don’t think he gives a shit. Lol Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausmann9 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 offense off top of my head but by no means a complete or even remotely accurate list. QB Joe Montana QB Dan Marino RB Saquon Barkley RB Tony Dorsett RB Eddie George RB Ricky Waters WR Andre Reed WR Eddie McCaffery WR Marques Colston WR Marvin Harrison WR WR John Spagnola TE Kyle Brady TE Ditka OT Bill Fralic OT Rusty Grim OG Big Cat Williams from Cowboys OG Stepnoski OG Wisnewski C FLEX Matt Barr kicker esp when w/ Giants (he won two or three playoffs games and a superbowl on last second field goals-dude was clutch) Defense/Special Teams DE DE DE DE Concrete Bednarik DE Jason Taylor DT Aaron Donald DT Randy White DT Sean Gilbert (quip) DT Cannonball Klecko (part of the NY Sack Exchange at one time) OLB Jack Hamm OLB Sean Lee OLB Mike Hartenstein OLB OLB MLB Matt Millen MLB Lavar Arrington MLB CB Darrell Reevis (quip) CB Ty Law (quip) CB Herb Aderly (I think he's originally from PA) CB Brent Grimes CB CB CB FS Bob Sanders FS Ryan Munday SS SS SS KS KS KR/PR Pat Makefy (sp????) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 8:45 AM, Nolebull813 said: Cali Coach Joe Gibbs QB Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers, Warren Moon, John Elway, Dan Fouts RB Marcus Allen, OJ Simpson, Ollie Matson FB Lorenzo Neal, Joe Perry WR Lynn Swann, James Lofton, Henry Ellard, Keyshawn Johnson TE Tony Gonzalez T Anthony Munoz, Gary Zimmerman, Ron Yary, Bob St Clair, Ron Mix G Bruce Matthews, Larry Allen, Max Montoya C Bruce Matthews*, Mel Hein DE Jared Allen, Greg Townsend DT LaRoi Glover, Dan Saleaumua LB Junior Seau, Hardy Nickerson, Joey Porter, Chad Brown CB Mike Haynes, Eric Allen, Dave Grayson, Chris McCallister SS Troy Polamalu, Tim McDonald FS Ronnie Lott, Marcus Robertson K Norm Johnson P Jeff Feagles First one on the list is wrong. Bill Walsh says hello. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHSFAN33 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 7 hours ago, sausmann9 said: offense off top of my head but by no means a complete or even remotely accurate list. QB Joe Montana QB Dan Marino RB Saquon Barkley RB Tony Dorsett RB Eddie George RB Ricky Waters WR Andre Reed WR Eddie McCaffery WR Marques Colston WR Marvin Harrison WR WR TE Gronk TE Ditka OT Bill Fralic OT Rusty Grim OG Big Cat Williams from Cowboys OG Stepnoski OG C FLEX Matt Barr kicker esp when w/ Giants (he won two or three playoffs games and a superbowl on last second field goals-dude was clutch) Defense tomorrow I would have counted Gronk as a NY tight end if I had the time to make a full roster...I thought he only played his senior season in PA he is originally from Buffalo area. Anyways, some other players from NY off the top of my head (there are probably plenty better NY choices than these, I don’t have the time to research): QB-Boomer Esiason, Ron Jaworski, Vinny Testaverde, Sid Luckman RB-Jim Brown, Ray Rice, Dorsey Levins WR-Art Monk, Quinn Early, Rob Moore, Curtis Samuel TE-Rob Gronkowski, John Mackey O-Line: Ali Marpet, Marco Rivera, D’Brickshaw Ferguson, John Niland, George Starke, Willie Colon D-Line: Lyle Alzado, Jimmy Kennedy, Art Donovan LB-Keith Bullock, Seth Joyner, Otis Wilson (This is an underrated trio of LB IMO) D-Back-Courtney Greene, Paul Lankford, Lance Schulters 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Cossacks said: First one on the list is wrong. Bill Walsh says hello. Why is that? They both won 3 Super Bowls and 2 coach of the year awards. Gibbs had a much less talented roster his career than Walsh did. And Gibbs had a better winning percentage .629 to .609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausmann9 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, NYHSFAN33 said: I would have counted Gronk as a NY tight end if I had the time to make a full roster...I thought he only played his senior season in PA he is originally from Buffalo area. Anyways, some other players from NY off the top of my head (there are probably plenty better NY choices than these, I don’t have the time to research): QB-Boomer Esiason, Ron Jaworski, Vinny Testaverde, Sid Luckman RB-Jim Brown, Ray Rice, Dorsey Levins WR-Art Monk, Quinn Early, Rob Moore, Curtis Samuel TE-Rob Gronkowski, John Mackey O-Line: Ali Marpet, Marco Rivera, D’Brickshaw Ferguson, John Niland, George Starke, Willie Colon D-Line: Lyle Alzado, Jimmy Kennedy, Art Donovan LB-Keith Bullock, Seth Joyner, Otis Wilson (This is an underrated trio of LB IMO) D-Back-Courtney Greene, Paul Lankford, Lance Schulters yeah I was debating back and forth to include him in a PA list but I'll take him out and put in either Kyle Brady or John SPagnola. Gronk's dad moved him down to Woody (Woodland Hills HS in Pitt area) for senior season b/c of the QB and competition a bit better than up in upstate NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 hours ago, sausmann9 said: offense off top of my head but by no means a complete or even remotely accurate list. QB Joe Montana QB Dan Marino RB Saquon Barkley RB Tony Dorsett RB Eddie George RB Ricky Waters WR Andre Reed WR Eddie McCaffery WR Marques Colston WR Marvin Harrison WR WR TE Gronk TE Ditka OT Bill Fralic OT Rusty Grim OG Big Cat Williams from Cowboys OG Stepnoski OG C FLEX Matt Barr kicker esp when w/ Giants (he won two or three playoffs games and a superbowl on last second field goals-dude was clutch) Defense tomorrow The kicker would be under KS on defensive side but this is a good start, I can always fill in the holes afterwards but the more you can list the easier my work is so thank you 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just as a heads up for a player to make the list they have to be born AND play high school in the same state Believe me the rule is a pain in the ass as I had a few HOF players taken off each list because of the technicality but I had to apply it across the board to do it fairly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 The FLEX can either be a RB, WR, or TE depending upon the deepest position for that state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: Why is that? They both won 3 Super Bowls and 2 coach of the year awards. Gibbs had a much less talented roster his career than Walsh did. And Gibbs had a better winning percentage .629 to .609 Bill Walsh changed the game. His offensive philosophy was revolutionary and is still used today. His coaching tree lineage is unmatched. He had a. much bigger impact on the NFL than Gibbs (who was a great coach). Talent wise the 84’ and beyond 49ers teams were better than the later 80 early 90’s Skins. The 81’ team however was not very talented and the top end talent they had was young, sans a few good veterans. Early 80’s Redskins were more talented, I’ll take John Riggins over Ricky Parton as my running back any day of the week. The first of the the 3 titles Walsh had was with not a great roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Columbiafan said: Just as a heads up for a player to make the list they have to be born AND play high school in the same state Believe me the rule is a pain in the ass as I had a few HOF players taken off each list because of the technicality but I had to apply it across the board to do it fairly Why? Seems where they learned the game and developed their skills is way more important than the hospital room they were born in. Which probably had zero bearing on their football career and development?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Cossacks said: Why? Seems where they learned the game and developed their skills is way more important than the hospital room they were born in. Which probably had zero bearing on their football career and development?? I could have done that but then I would run into issues with players who played in multiple states or played middle school in one state then came as a 9th or 10th grader into another state Thats why I decided to qualify they had to be born and play high school in the same state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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