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Slotback Right Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 36 minutes ago, DBP66 said: No Trump did/does not have any "legal standing"...a swing and a miss...."former" Pres. means nothing....🙄 Wrong again. He took them BEFORE he became "former" Pres. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 35 minutes ago, DBP66 said: This JojoFromJerz? A paid bot from the DNC. Makes sense you would follow it and get info from it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Haha this is funny. I just posted about this. Psycho democrats didn’t give Trump credit for low gas prices, didn’t blame Biden for high gas prices, but did give him credit when it went down a little. Lol. Just straight up bankrupt of any morals, values and integrity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 39 minutes ago, Slotback Right said: Wrong again. He took them BEFORE he became "former" Pres. LOL...he can't take them...no matter when he took them....he had no right to have them in his personal possession....period..🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 36 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: This JojoFromJerz? A paid bot from the DNC. Makes sense you would follow it and get info from it I have no idea who this girl is but I like the picture of your boy snoozing in court that she posted!...snoozing Donny?!...LOL...and they call Joe "sleepy"?!?...LOL...😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 44 minutes ago, Slotback Right said: Wrong again. He took them BEFORE he became "former" Pres. and that makes it right??...wrong....🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, DBP66 said: and that makes it right??...wrong....🙄 Yes it does. The President has the final say on declassifying documents. Anyone else has to submit declassification forms, which must eventually end up on the President's desk for his decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 6 minutes ago, Slotback Right said: Yes it does. The President has the final say on declassifying documents. Anyone else has to submit declassification forms, which must eventually end up on the President's desk for his decision. and he says he can just "think about it" and they're declassified!!...LOL...wonk...wonk...there is NO proof he declassified anything....there is a process...which he ignored and lied to the FBI about having them in his possession.....and he got busted...no "deep state" plot...just Donny thinking he's above the law...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 14 minutes ago, DBP66 said: I have no idea who this girl is but I like the picture of your boy snoozing in court that she posted!...snoozing Donny?!...LOL...and they call Joe "sleepy"?!?...LOL...😉 So if someone does something 500 times it’s the same as someone doing it 5 times? Just an example. Biden is a gaffe machine with thousands of gaffes and the Democrat response is pulling up one or two random instances of Trump making a mistake as if that absolves every blooper and folly Biden has commited 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 The scope of the documents taken by investigators from Mar-a-Lago is not publicly known, nor have any charges been filed. The Constitution, executive orders and case law clearly give the president broad authority to classify and declassify documents. Similarly, prevailing law also requires federal officials to follow certain procedures in declassifying documents to establish specificity and memorialization for future handling. But the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — without those formalities — has yet to be challenged in court. Posted 10/17/2022 https://abalegalfactcheck.com/articles/declassified.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 you can't hang you hat on being this super powerful guy who never gets tired and then falls asleep IN COURT?!?!...come on...while court was in session?!?!...the IRONY is off the chart...sleepy Donny is a real thing...he's a tired old man...who suffers from insomnia....😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 9 minutes ago, Slotback Right said: The scope of the documents taken by investigators from Mar-a-Lago is not publicly known, nor have any charges been filed. The Constitution, executive orders and case law clearly give the president broad authority to classify and declassify documents. Similarly, prevailing law also requires federal officials to follow certain procedures in declassifying documents to establish specificity and memorialization for future handling. But the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — without those formalities — has yet to be challenged in court. Posted 10/17/2022 https://abalegalfactcheck.com/articles/declassified.html yea...he can just "think" about it and it happens....🙄..let's see how that defense works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 All day in a court room….knowing this scheme will fail like all others…campaigning after court…those are loooong days. Joe would have been sleep walking (like a Roomba) into the court room. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, DBP66 said: No Trump did/does not have any "legal standing"...a swing and a miss...."former" Pres. means nothing....🙄 So you didn’t read the Clinton sock draw case. Precedent is a mofo…good for me but not for thee right DP? Doesn’t work that way. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 19 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: All day in a court room….knowing this scheme will fail like all others…campaigning after court…those are loooong days. Joe would have been sleep walking (like a Roomba) into the court room. all day??...so what...it a criminal case and he falls asleep?!?...are you kidding me?!?...not good for Donny or his cult....and there will be no more sleepy Joe B.S. anymore....thanks Donny....😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted April 17 Author Report Share Posted April 17 So you didn’t read the Clinton sock draw case. Precedent is a mofo…good for me but not for thee right DP? Doesn’t work that way. you can't lie you way of of jams...one day you and Trump may learn that...😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, DBP66 said: all day??...so what...it a criminal case and he falls asleep?!?...are you kidding me?!?...not good for Donny or his cult....and there will be no more sleepy Joe B.S. anymore....thanks Donny....😉 IMG_0134.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 6 hours ago, Slotback Right said: Wrong again. He took them BEFORE he became "former" Pres. Right… he just didn’t declassify them or return them. Which we know because we heard him saying as much. On tape. His own words on tape - in private. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 8 hours ago, GoBigBlack said: Right… he just didn’t declassify them or return them. Which we know because we heard him saying as much. On tape. His own words on tape - in private. “Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President’s term and in his sole discretion,” Jackson wrote. “Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records,” the judge wrote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 9 hours ago, GoBigBlack said: Right… he just didn’t declassify them or return them. Which we know because we heard him saying as much. On tape. His own words on tape - in private. Pretty sure of yourself, aren't you? Well, the American Bar Association doesn't think it's that cut and dried. You must have missed that part of my post, so here it is again: 15 hours ago, Slotback Right said: Similarly, prevailing law also requires federal officials to follow certain procedures in declassifying documents to establish specificity and memorialization for future handling. But the extent of a president’s legal authority to unilaterally declassify materials — without those formalities — has yet to be challenged in court. Posted 10/17/2022 https://abalegalfactcheck.com/articles/declassified.html He's the top banana...who does he need to apply to in order to declassify something? The fact that he took them out of the archives, or whatever site classified materials are stored, shows nothing other than that THE top Banana, (who has THE final say on declassification), no longer considers them classified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Warrior said: “Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records,” the judge wrote. “[a]lthough the President must notify the Archivist before disposing of records ... neither the Archivist nor Congress has the authority to veto the President's disposal decision.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 4 hours ago, Slotback Right said: The fact that he took them out of the archives, or whatever site classified materials are stored, shows nothing other than that THE top Banana, (who has THE final say on declassification), no longer considers them classified. Except, once again, we have him on tape admitting he did still consider them classified. He also admitted to not knowing he had some of the documents because his staff "packed hastily." How did he declassify something he didn't know existed? And how could you possibly believe he declassified something he didn't know existed when we have him on tape admitting he didn't declassify documents in his possession that he did know about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBigBlack Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Slotback Right said: He's the top banana...who does he need to apply to in order to declassify something? The text from Warrior's post you liked because it says "the president can do whatever he wants" also says this -- "the PRA 'accords the President “virtually complete control.' over his records during his time in office" So, he doesn't have TOTAL control? Got it. It also says this -- "In particular, the court stated that the President enjoys unconstrained authority to make decisions regarding the disposal of documents: ““[a]lthough the President must notify the Archivist before disposing of records." So let me get this straight -- the same ruling that you are using to say the "top banana doesn't have to tell anyone if he wants to declassify something" actually says that, at the very least, he "must notify the Archivist" first. Depending on what is meant by "virtually complete control" there may be more people and procedures to notify or follow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 Sounds like you're splitting hairs. "virtually" is subjective, "during his time in office," correctly describes when he took them, and, if all you've got is that he "forgot to notify the Archivist," I'm pretty sure he's not going to face the firing squad for that mortal sin. And that's assuming that the PRA even has an enforcement clause of any kind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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