DBP66 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 I think we're up to 5 election deniers (bought the BIG lie) here??...Ironman. Warrior, Ronald, Slotback and Don Rickles....did I miss anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 10 hours ago, DBP66 said: I LIE...hard to believe I know......this is the last time I'll bother with you and your silliness today... 🤡 12 minutes ago, DBP66 said: I'm a certified liar....SAD😪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader12-0 Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, DBP66 said: I think we're up to 5 election deniers (bought the BIG lie) here??...Ironman. Warrior, Ronald, Slotback and Don Rickles....did I miss anyone? If we’re election deniers then you are a reality denier. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Crusader12-0 said: If we’re election deniers then you are a reality denier. up to 6...thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Crusader12-0 said: If we’re election deniers then you are a reality denier. how many votes did Trump win by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader12-0 Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 I take the Red pill. Obama was much more popular and never had such low approval ratings. He was also more energetic, outgoing, was in good health and campaigned everywhere (The complete opposite of Biden). Add to the fact that Obama had actual policies to run on. While all Biden had was “Im not Trump.” So to say that Biden got 12 million more votes than Obama ever did is comical. And if by some odd chance, 81 million legitimate American voters really did vote for a senile old man, incapable of finishing a sentence, then our country is not worth saving. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Crusader12-0 said: If we’re election deniers then you are a reality denier. A new BC boy LOL... welcome haha PS: Did you happen to wrestle for BC ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader12-0 Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Troll said: A new BC boy LOL... welcome haha PS: Did you happen to wrestle for BC ? I have never wrestled in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Just now, Crusader12-0 said: I have never wrestled in my life. That's ok, just happened to notice you posted about the teams coverage...and was wondering. PS: Don't mind my old classmate 66... he knows not what he speaks. LOL 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 1 hour ago, DBP66 said: and he won by 7 million votes...FACT...😉 Such a good sheep 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, Crusader12-0 said: I take the Red pill. Obama was much more popular and never had such low approval ratings. He was also more energetic, outgoing, was in good health and campaigned everywhere (The complete opposite of Biden). Add to the fact that Obama had actual policies to run on. While all Biden had was “Im not Trump.” So to say that Biden got 12 million more votes than Obama ever did is comical. And if by some odd chance, 81 million legitimate American voters really did vote for a senile old man, incapable of finishing a sentence, then our country is not worth saving. It’s a new day when i side with a Crusader over an Ironman….what has the world come too?. #reality #truth 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: It’s a new day when i side with a Crusader over an Ironman….what has the world come too?. #reality #truth 😂 careful now...LOL PS: yeah but BC still sux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 2 hours ago, DBP66 said: I think we're up to 5 election deniers (bought the BIG lie) here??...Ironman. Warrior, Ronald, Slotback and Don Rickles....did I miss anyone? 2 hours ago, DBP66 said: up to 6...thanks! Make it 7.... You forgot yer idol, creepy Joey... PS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 hours ago, I AM IRONMAN said: It’s a new day when i side with a Crusader over an Ironman….what has the world come too?. #reality #truth 😂 this world has come down to the people who "bought the Big lie" and the people who know Trump lost the election...the rest of the world must look at you Trumpers as brain-washed morons to believe a certified bullshit artist....and why didn't Trump win ANY of the 59 court cases??...because he LOST....fair and square....you guys have decided to live in a world of "alternative" facts...SAD...😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Some of the documents retrieved from Mar-a-Lago were so secret that FBI agents needed a special clearance to look at them, DOJ says Tom Porter Wed, August 31, 2022 at 6:29 AM Then-President Donald Trump holds up papers during a White House press conference.Alex Brandon/AP The DOJ revealed new information about the items retrieved from Mar-a-Lago in a Tuesday court filing. It said some were so sensitive that agents needed special clearance to see them. Trump has claimed documents and were wrongly seized in the raid and wants them back. Some of the documents retrieved by FBI agents in their raid of Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate were so classified that agents needed special permission to view them, according to Justice Department court documents filed Tuesday. The DOJ's 36-page filing was in response to Trump's request to have a third-party official, or "special master," sift through the documents retrieved by the FBI from his Florida resort on August 8. The DOJ in the docket described the highly classified nature of some of the material retrieved, efforts allegedly made by Trump's aides to remove or conceal documents from the FBI, and the haphazard way documents were stored at Mar-a-Lago. "In some instances, even the FBI counterintelligence personnel and DOJ attorneys conducting the review required additional clearances before they were permitted to review certain documents," the DOJ said. In a photo submitted by the DOJ, documents marked "contains sensitive compartmented information up to HCS-P/SI/TK" were pictured by agents in Mar-a-Lago next to a box with an edition of "Time" magazine with Trump on the cover. "HCS" refers to intelligence from clandestine human sources, and is highly classified to ensure their security. This image contained in a court filing by the DOJ on August 30, 2022, and redacted by in part by the FBI, shows a photo of documents seized during the August 8 search of Mar-a-Lago.Department of Justice via AP Trump and his allies have railed against the FBI for searching through his personal belongings, as well as his wife Melania Trump's closet, in their raid. But in the Tuesday filing, the DOJ said that classified information had been jumbled up with Trump's personal items, indicating how carelessly they were being stored. "Evidence of commingling personal effects with documents bearing classification markings is relevant evidence of the statutory offenses under investigation," the DOJ said. Trump has sought to portray the search as politically motivated, and has applied to have the special master review the documents because he claims that many were covered by executive privilege and ought to be returned to him. He has claimed that he broadly declassified the documents he brought to Mar-a-Lago before he left office. The National Intelligence Director and Justice Department are conducting a review to establish potential national security risks from Trump having taken the documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 11 hours ago, DBP66 said: you bought the BIG lie...you don't have a clue...did you read that Trump still thinks he won!?!...you worship a crazy fool...🥲 It's all falling apart for you now - the FBI is a mess. They'll make one last stand before the election but they know it's over and soon enough you'll come to the same realization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 26 minutes ago, Warrior said: It's all falling apart for you now - the FBI is a mess. They'll make one last stand before the election but they know it's over and soon enough you'll come to the same realization. realization??...that Trump won??...or he didn't steal the files??.....LOL...you really lost your mind....just like the 59 court cases...😪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, DBP66 said: realization??...that Trump won??...or he didn't steal the files??.....LOL...you really lost your mind....just like the 59 court cases...😪 Saw this today and think it's timely, There is an ongoing pattern of 1. Something is blatantly obvious 2. Some people point out the thing that is blatantly obvious 3. The people are attacked and ridiculed *time passes* 4. The "experts" concede the blatantly obvious thing was correct 5. No apologies Time will tell - watch as many more whistleblowers come forward and the "deep state" is exposed but more importantly removed from their positions. It's already in motion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Trump walks in and out of rooms at Mar-a-Lago just to get applause because he loves the attention, says filmmaker who interviewed him there Sophia Ankel Wed, August 31, 2022 at 9:41 AM Donald Trump and Melania Trump attend a dinner with his family at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, on December 24, 2019.Nicholas Kamm/AFP via Getty Images Trump loves roaming around Mar-a-Lago to get attention, a filmmaker who interviewed him there said. Alex Holder told "The Bulwark Podcast" that Trump would dip in and out of rooms to receive applause from guests. Holder also said Trump had an "inability to understand why people don't like him." Former President Donald Trump walks in and out of rooms at Mar-a-Lago just to receive applause from guests because he loves the attention, a British filmmaker who interviewed him there told "The Bulwark Podcast." "What Trump does in Mar-a-Lago and why he loves it there so much is that he just walks around where people are having dinner just to get a round of applause," filmmaker Alex Holder told "The Bulwark Podcast" in an episode that aired on Tuesday. "So he will just walk into the dinner area ... there will be a cheer, and then he will go out, and then he'll go back in again, and go out," Holder added. "He just loves that admiration." Holder interviewed the former president at Mar-a-Lago in March 2021 as part of his documentary, "Unprecedented." The series portrays the Trump family before, during, and after the 2020 presidential election. The filmmaker had also interviewed Trump once in the White House on December 7, 2020, and once at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, in May 2021. In the podcast, Holder described the former president as a "simple, but very unusual" man, who has an "inability to understand why people don't like him unless he doesn't like them first." "That is the world he lives in. He is incapable of understanding anything other than total and absolute admiration towards him," Holder said, adding that it was these qualities that made it "frustrating" to interview Trump. "You could never go deep with him," he said. Trump has hosted opulent parties, political speeches, and fundraisers at his Mar-a-Lago estate since he bought the sprawling property for $8 million in 1985. He turned Mar-a-Lago into a private club ten years later, and now charges members an annual fee of $14,000, with an additional $2,000 dining minimum. Earlier this month the FBI executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago and seized about 20 boxes worth of material from the estate, including 11 sets marked as classified. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 They get him yet?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DBP66 Posted August 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Trump's Lawyers May Become Witnesses or Targets in Documents Investigation Trump's Lawyers May Become Witnesses or Targets in Documents Investigation Charlie Savage and Maggie Haberman Wed, August 31, 2022 at 2:23 PM WASHINGTON — Two lawyers for former President Donald Trump are likely to become witnesses or targets in the investigation into how he hoarded documents marked as classified at Mar-a-Lago, his Florida estate — and secretly held onto some even after the lawyers claimed all sensitive materials had been returned, legal specialists said. The lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, handled Trump’s interactions with the government over a subpoena in May seeking additional material marked as classified. In a court filing late Tuesday, the Justice Department strongly suggested that people in Trump’s circle concealed documents in defiance of that subpoena, putting a spotlight on the lawyers’ actions. “They are potentially witnesses — if not defendants,” Barbara McQuade, a University of Michigan law professor and a U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan from 2010 to 2017, said of the two lawyers. Sign up for The Morning newsletter from the New York Times The filing did not identify which lawyers for Trump took the key actions. But The New York Times has reported that after receiving the subpoena, Corcoran searched through boxes kept in a storage area in Mar-a-Lago’s basement for files with classified markings. The Times has also reported that on June 3, after Trump’s lawyers met with Jay Bratt, the head of the Justice Department’s counterespionage section, and FBI agents, Bobb signed a statement attesting that all the sensitive material had been returned. During that visit, Trump’s representatives turned over 38 documents with classified markings and indicated that all the records had been kept in a storage room, that no other records were stored elsewhere and that all available boxes had been searched, prosecutors said. According to the statement Bobb signed on behalf of Trump, “based upon the information that has been provided to me,” all documents responsive to the subpoena were being returned after a “diligent” search. The Times has reported that she was the designated “custodian of records” for Trump. Yet on Aug. 8, the FBI found more than twice as many documents marked as classified than had been turned over in June, including some in Trump’s office. That fact, the Justice Department wrote, “calls into serious question the representations made in the June 3 certification” — which also included a claim that no copies had been made of any files — “and casts doubt on the extent of cooperation in this matter.” Corcoran and Bobb did not respond to requests for comment. In its filing late Tuesday, the Justice Department pointedly noted that Trump’s lawyers had not been as cooperative and open as they could have been at the June 3 meeting. “Critically, however, the former president’s counsel explicitly prohibited government personnel from opening or looking inside any of the boxes that remained in the storage room, giving no opportunity for the government to confirm that no documents with classification markings remained,” the filing said. The Justice Department’s account clashes with that of Trump’s legal team. In a complaint filed Aug. 22 and signed by Corcoran and two other lawyers, they describe Trump and his team as providing “complete cooperation.” After Bratt asked to inspect the storage room, investigators were escorted there, and once their inspection was completed, the complaint states, an FBI agent said, “Thank you. You did not need to show us the storage room, but we appreciate it. Now it all makes sense.” All this has increased scrutiny on whether the lawyers knowingly misled the government in coordination with Trump as their client, knowingly misled both the government and Trump, or were themselves left in the dark by Trump or others and so lacked any criminal intent. “If the Justice Department is going to pursue criminal charges, any prosecutor is going to want to have on the record the full picture of what happened, which will require the testimony of all the witnesses with the relevant knowledge — and that certainly includes lawyers here,” said Samuel Buell, a Duke University professor of criminal law and former prosecutor. Any attempt to subpoena the two lawyers for testimony and written communications about their discussions with Trump about the matter would immediately set off a legal fight over attorney-client privilege, legal specialists said. In normal circumstances, prosecutors seeking evidence about an investigative target cannot subpoena that target’s defense lawyers and force them to testify or turn over documents about their client. Under attorney-client privilege, the confidentiality of such discussions and work is protected. That privilege is meant to protect the rights of people who are in trouble over a past and already completed potential offense. People need to be able to talk candidly with their lawyers about what happened to understand their options. That would be impossible if whatever people admitted to their lawyers could be used against them as evidence in court. But there is an exception. When attorney-client communications were part of continuing or future crimes, the privilege does not apply. If judges think there is sufficient evidence to trigger this “crime-fraud exception,” they will uphold a subpoena forcing the defense lawyers to provide evidence about what they and their clients said to one another. There is another potential legal hurdle. If there is reason to believe that Corcoran, Bobb or both are at risk themselves of being charged with crimes like obstruction or lying to federal investigators, they would have a Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination. As a result, neither could likely be compelled to testify before a grand jury about their interactions with Trump without a grant of immunity from prosecution at a minimum. Alternatively, if prosecutors believe they already have enough evidence to charge them with crimes like obstruction or making false statements, the government could try to negotiate guilty pleas that include agreements to cooperate in return for leniency. The Tuesday filing said that the FBI — which also subpoenaed footage from Mar-a-Lago surveillance cameras and has been working with multiple witnesses — had evidence that someone had moved boxes out of a storage room before Corcoran conducted his search. The publicly available record does not make clear whether Corcoran or Bobb knew that or whether either or both of them knew that some documents marked as top secret were also in a desk in Trump’s office at the compound. The prospect that investigators may seek to obtain information from Corcoran, Bobb or both would almost certainly meet with strenuous resistance from them and from Trump. “Noises have already been made about attorney-client privilege,” Buell said, “so it’s guaranteed that is going to be a heavily litigated question.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DBP66 Posted September 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 The blue wave.... Sarah Palin Loses Comeback Bid For State’s Lone House Seat Jonathan Nicholson Wed, August 31, 2022 at 8:20 PM Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee, lost her bid for a political comeback Wednesday, falling in the election to fill the remainder of the late Congressman Don Young’s term. Palin was in a three-way runoff with fellow Republican Nick Begich, grandson of a former holder of the seat and nephew of former Alaska Sen. Mark Begich, as well as Democrat Mary Peltola, the surprise winner. But a rematch is in the offing, as Palin, Begich and Peltola were also on the ballot in the separate primary vote and qualified for the final November vote for a full term as the state’s sole representative in the U.S. House beginning in January 2023. The election Palin lost was to fill out the few remaining months until the new 118th Congress is seated in January and was made necessary by the death in March of Young, the Republican who had represented the state since 1973. The Alaska special election that Sarah Palin lost was necessitated by the death in March of Rep. Don Young, who at the time of his death was the longest-serving House member. A public service was held for Young in the U.S. Capitol's Statuary Hall. (Photo: SHAWN THEW via Getty Images) The Alaska special election that Sarah Palin lost was necessitated by the death in March of Rep. Don Young, who at the time of his death was the longest-serving House member. A public service was held for Young in the U.S. Capitol's Statuary Hall. (Photo: SHAWN THEW via Getty Images) Palin burst on to the national political scene in 2008 when she was picked by John McCain, a Republican senator from Arizona, to be his running mate for the White House. Palin, with her populist rhetoric and take-it-to-them energy, was meant to add excitement to the campaign but instead led many to question McCain’s judgment after she made a series of missteps. Her primary finish in the top four means she’s staved off a return to the political wilderness she experienced after McCain’s 2008 loss and her resignation as governor of Alaska in 2009. After that, she did various things to maintain a public profile, including a stint at Fox News as an analyst and appearing as a pink and purple costumed bear on Fox’s “The Masked Singer” reality show, where she sang Sir Mix-a-Lot’s “Baby Got Back.” The election to replace Young was conducted using Alaska’s new ranked-choice system, in which voters can choose the order in which they prefer candidates and those rankings are used to eliminate candidates until one receives a majority of the vote. The primary ballot, however, was a traditional “pick one” line, and the top four will be on a ranked-choice ballot in November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 8/30/2022 at 11:03 AM, DBP66 said: what kind of proof do you need Ronald??...it's all there for the taking....he lied when he said in June all files were returned...and we KNOW he lied because when they went back in August they found 20 MORE boxes....in other words Trump LIED...hard to believe I know......🤡 psssssSST......... If you actually want to understand just exactly how stupid you sound... You should check out this short and sweet explanation of REALITY You REALITY DENIER starts at 6:00 - thru 13:00 (for the definition of yer dunce cap) PS: BTW: maybe yerl get'em next time... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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