Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Wosinc said: It is disingenuous, one might even say hypocritical, of Guccifer to now claim otherwise. But I never claimed otherwise. I just, accurately, called out your lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Wosinc said: Guccifer depends on people not remembering the inconsistent, contradictory drek Guccifer spews. There was nothing contradictory about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said: What does this say about Negro’s staff with all that talent losing to poorly coached STA? sammy will not touch this with a 10-foot pole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Guccifer said: Wait, so you're saying that 62% is a bad completion percentage? Wow. You're truly a clown of epic proportion. I think he is using the methodology that you used when labeling Fromm as not being a good QB. It seems you picked out 2 games (ND and Auburn Rd 1) in which he struggled to make your assertions. If we are to apply this logic evenly across the board, then Allen was garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 12 hours ago, Guccifer said: sammy will not touch this with a 10-foot pole. IMO SJB tied STA in regulation due to lack of attention to the FG team which missed 2 chip shots. I blame their coaches. The difference is that SJB squanderered a "game", but STA squanders "seasons". The SJB program has had much more coaching/success than STA over the past 5 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: IMO SJB tied STA in regulation due to lack of attention to the FG team which missed 2 chip shots. I blame their coaches. The difference is that SJB squanderered a "game", but STA squanders "seasons". The SJB program has had much more coaching/success than STA over the past 5 seasons That's a clown statement if I ever heard one. STA has made a living going all around the country and playing the best of the best. St John's Bosco is a johnny-come-lately who has a couple wins against West Coast stiffs. Completely unimpressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Why don't you line up sjbs out of state record against St Thomas's out of state record? That will just show the foolishness of your statement and California homerism. Congrats maitre'd is a good team this year. Big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 7 hours ago, CCBlackhatter said: I think he is using the methodology that you used when labeling Fromm as not being a good QB. This displays a very remedial understanding of football and the argument that myself and steeler were making. Jake Fromm has a high completion percentage because he throws few passes and is carefully protected by the play-calling. Jake Allen, on the other hand, had the most pass attempts in a single season in school history. Do you understand the clear distinction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 7 hours ago, CCBlackhatter said: It seems you picked out 2 games (ND and Auburn Rd 1) in which he struggled to make your assertions. He struggled because those were the two toughest opponents they played. And they were clear examples of their offensive philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 7 hours ago, CCBlackhatter said: If we are to apply this logic evenly across the board, then Allen was garbage. But you've already been shown to have butchered the logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 33 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: The difference is that SJB squanderered a "game", but STA squanders "seasons". SJB lost 3 games and exited in the semifinal. STA lost 3 games and exited in the semifinal. I love how you want to apply more nuance to this situation while avoiding it like the plague in every other circumstance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, 181pl said: Why don't you line up sjbs out of state record against St Thomas's out of state record? That will just show the foolishness of your statement and California homerism. Congrats maitre'd is a good team this year. Big deal. Why don't you line up their records? You Fla snowflakes are having a tough year, and not dealing well with the fact that a Calif team will win the MNC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, Guccifer said: SJB lost 3 games and exited in the semifinal. STA lost 3 games and exited in the semifinal. I love how you want to apply more nuance to this situation while avoiding it like the plague in every other circumstance. SJB was not the most talented team in the 2 games they lost in regulation. STA was the more talented team in the three games they lost. Hence STA squanders talent. SJB ran the OOS table last year, and avenged their only loss in a rematch = coached up, and won the highest division state championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 35 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: The SJB program has had much more coaching/success than STA over the past 5 seasons This must be more of your selective nuance since STA and SJB only have two direct comparison points. Head-to-head in 2017 (STA overtime win) and Common opponent in 2016 (STA overtime loss, SJB 15 point loss) Also, an indirect comparison (championships) goes to STA 3-2 as well. Now, what are the chances that you would make this same argument if the roles had been reversed and SJB was the one with the head-to-head and common opponent edge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Sammyswordsman said: SJB was not the most talented team in the 2 games they lost in regulation. So SJB's coaching can't be counted on to win any games where they weren't the most "talented" team. 0-3 in 2017 against teams with equal or better talent. 11-0 against everybody else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: STA was the more talented team in the three games they lost. Hence STA squanders talent. This is stupid and has been proven to be so many times. It's also incredibly lazy because it keeps you from having to do any real thinking. It's a default position that STA is always the more talented team and therefore if they lose it's because their coaching sucks and they squander talent. But as I've said before, anybody who says that (insert team) should never lose a game is an idiot. And you, sammy, are an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: SJB was not the most talented team in the 2 games they lost in regulation. STA was the more talented team in the three games they lost. Hence STA squanders talent. SJB ran the OOS table last year, and avenged their only loss in a rematch = coached up, and won the highest division state championship. Did I miss something? I thought SBJ lost to BG by a few TDs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: SJB ran the OOS table last year, and avenged their only loss in a rematch = coached up, and won the highest division state championship. They must have lost the first match-up because of poor coaching. I said it so it must be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Did I miss something? I thought SBJ lost to BG by a few TDs? sammy is a dolt. He lies and/or gets facts wrong constantly. Almost as much as he changes allegiances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Guccifer said: This displays a very remedial understanding of football and the argument that myself and steeler were making. Jake Fromm has a high completion percentage because he throws few passes and is carefully protected by the play-calling. Jake Allen, on the other hand, had the most pass attempts in a single season in school history. Do you understand the clear distinction? Who gives a damn about most pass attempts when you're only 38% against teams with a pulse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: Who gives a damn about most pass attempts when you're only 38% against teams with a pulse? They played more than two teams with a pulse. But thanks for playing, clown. You're wrong again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Guccifer said: They played more than two teams with a pulse. But thanks for playing, clown. You're wrong again. In your own little world they did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Guccifer said: This is stupid and has been proven to be so many times. It's also incredibly lazy because it keeps you from having to do any real thinking. It's a default position that STA is always the more talented team and therefore if they lose it's because their coaching sucks and they squander talent. But as I've said before, anybody who says that (insert team) should never lose a game is an idiot. And you, sammy, are an idiot. The original premise is that No program in America squanders more talent than STA. I stand by that. Let's take a peek at the supporting data since STA last undefeated season in 2010 Top STA losses where STA had the superior team. (No other Top Program has lost so much with a superior team). We can always count on the STA staff to F-up a game they should have won easily. 2012 -#726 Miramar 2013 - #573 Deerfield Beach 2011 - #525 Cooper City 2017 - #349 Miramar 2015 - #330 Deerfield Beach 2017 - #325 Centennial AZ 2016 - #275 BTW 2013 - #84 Dwyer 2014 - #80 Don Bosco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 21 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: The original premise is that No program in America squanders more talent than STA. I stand by that. You frequently stand by conclusions that you came to without any solid evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Top STA losses where STA had the superior team. (No other Top Program has lost so much with a superior team). This is the frequently repeated line that you seem to adopt based on nothing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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