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[Columbiafan]

On 12/1/2017 at 10:57 PM, Guccifer said:

No Guccier is just honest at all times.

He doesn't heap undue praise on teams just because they win a game.

Venice isn't that good and an average STA team beats them easily.

@Guccifer

So you say you never said Venice was trash 

 

Well you certainly implied it here by saying a average sta team beats them easily 

[Guccifer]

Just now, Columbiafan said:

@Guccifer

So you say you never said Venice was trash 

No.

Your post proves that.

Thanks.

[Sammyswordsman]

On ‎12‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 3:34 PM, 181pl said:

Bump

No program squanders more talent annually that STA. 

[Warrior]

STA's QB last summer was getting all kinds of love and they have some serious studs on their o-line. When are we going to just call it what it is - their coaching is not up to the standards of other top coaches in their own state and not even close to top coaches around the country. 

[golfaddict1]

49 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

No program squanders more talent annually that STA. 

Yet still good enough to beat CA #2 .     As for CA #1,  let's see a 5 star agile QB, 5 star OT (4 OL with FBS offers and not lower tier), 5 star WR (who is basically not coverable).    Now that would have been squandering "talent" had they not run the table.  

 

[Sammyswordsman]

10 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

Yet still good enough to beat CA #2 .     As for CA #1,  let's see a 5 star agile QB, 5 star OT (4 OL with FBS offers and not lower tier), 5 star WR (who is basically not coverable).    Now that would have been squandering "talent" had they not run the table.  

 

With their talent, STA should have beat SJB at home by 2 scores.  Instead their highly touted QB and WR were throttled, gained under 100 yards total offense, and were held without a TD, while tying the visitors in Regulation.

But go ahead and act like STA won 51-0.  Fla snowflakes need their "feel good moments".

 

[Wosinc]

On 12/2/2017 at 10:04 AM, ATLien12x said:

@Sammyswordsman, please file this to the excuse thread. Losing to a team with 75% white boys is embarrassing. The game is on NFHS to view back - not a pretty sight after halftime 

Beat me to it ...

[Wosinc]

On 12/2/2017 at 10:09 AM, Columbiafan said:

Sta was leading at half and blew it

 

That probably makes it a lot worse 

No.  That means they actually won.

[golfaddict1]

1 hour ago, Warrior said:

STA's QB last summer was getting all kinds of love and they have some serious studs on their o-line. When are we going to just call it what it is - their coaching is not up to the standards of other top coaches in their own state and not even close to top coaches around the country. 

Until the backup from varsity got injured and was out for the year in the preseason, not sure who was going to start.   Los was leaning on the senior actually in posts until the injury.   Not sure that would have mattered but yes Casteel got offers in the spring and then he saw live defenses in the fall.   Not sure who the serious studs were on the OL, but they had some 3 star rated kids (Murphy is likely the best OL they have).  He played RT last year and did a good job.  

As for coaching, no argument here...  can't and won't defend it.  Not this year especially.   They still could have and should have executed better.  

  

[golfaddict1]

16 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

With their talent, STA should have beat SJB at home by 2 scores.  Instead their highly touted QB and WR were throttled, gained under 100 yards total offense, and were held without a TD, while tying the visitors in Regulation.

But go ahead and act like STA won 51-0.  Fla snowflakes need their "feel good moments".

 

Highly touted QB and WR?  Who?  

[Wosinc]

On 12/2/2017 at 10:25 AM, Guccifer said:

No, it makes you incredibly stupid.

Even if the topic is STA, a sidebar can be had.

181pl mentioned 7A.

I responded.

Nobody gives a shit about you or your reasons why Lee was down. The point was Lee was down. That's it.

Now stop wasting our time, kid.

You're worthless on this forum.

We’ve seen this multiple time before. Thoroughly predictable progression of Guccifer’s state of mind here:

Starts out with just Guccifer’s usual snarkiness, Guccifer realizes he can’t win by bullying so starts with the gratuitous insults, then gets backed into a corner and goes full meltdown.

This is a sure sign of an incipient breakdown.

If Guccifer were writing in cursive the letters would be about 6 inches high and barely legible.

Guccifer would be able to fit about 3 lines on an 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper

 

[Wosinc]

34 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

Yet still good enough to beat CA #2 .     As for CA #1,  let's see a 5 star agile QB, 5 star OT (4 OL with FBS offers and not lower tier), 5 star WR (who is basically not coverable).    Now that would have been squandering "talent" had they not run the table.  

 

Guccifer, in any of his numerous disguises, has long maintained that a game tied at the end of regulation is a tie, and it doesn’t matter who wins in overtime.

It’s dishonst of Guccifer to now try to claim that STA actually beat SJB, when by his own criterion it was a tie game.

You can bet your ass that if SJB had eked out the win Guccifer would be claiming “tie game, tie game!”

[954gator]

Say what you will but STA is 2-0 over Cali top teams lol. 

[golfaddict1]

6 minutes ago, Wosinc said:

Guccifer, in any of his numerous disguises, has long maintained that a game tied at the end of regulation is a tie, and it doesn’t matter who wins in overtime.

It’s dishonst of Guccifer to now try to claim that STA actually beat SJB, when by his own criterion it was a tie game.

You can bet your ass that if SJB had eked out the win Guccifer would be claiming “tie game, tie game!”

It's an odd way of finishing a game, but there has to be a winner.  STA basically Rugby'd one rush close enough in OT to the goal line to get a W.   At least start from the 25 and make a first down not mean a TD!  Starting from the 10 to decide a winner is odd to begin with imo, but SJB had 4 plays to go 10 yards and didn't... so there's that sort of oh to finish this portion.    

I commend hockey for what they do.  Regular season, short 4 on 4 for 5 minutes and if no goals shootout.  Loser gets a point, winner 2.  Fans get some added entertainment.  In playoffs you continue as you started, sudden death... no matter the time it takes, next goal wins.  Soccer should pay attention!  

My pet peeve is "what if they played in Dec or just again" discussions (usually or always OOS related).     

[Sammyswordsman]

21 minutes ago, 954gator said:

Say what you will but STA is 2-0 over Cali top teams lol. 

And Mater Dei is going to be MNC.  So that's the net net.  LOL

[golfaddict1]

22 minutes ago, 954gator said:

Say what you will but STA is 2-0 over Cali top teams lol. 

 

[Guccifer]

1 hour ago, Warrior said:

STA's QB last summer was getting all kinds of love and they have some serious studs on their o-line. When are we going to just call it what it is - their coaching is not up to the standards of other top coaches in their own state and not even close to top coaches around the country. 

This, again, proves how silly people can be with their evaluations.

So a kid got some love at camps in the off-season therefore if he struggles in actual games then his coaching is sub-standard.

People like you always settle for the easiest and laziest explanation.

The truth is actually outside of your sphere of influence. Let's just call it what it is: You're not informed enough to make a rational judgement.

[Guccifer]

1 hour ago, Sammyswordsman said:

With their talent, STA should have beat SJB at home by 2 scores.  Instead their highly touted QB and WR were throttled, gained under 100 yards total offense, and were held without a TD, while tying the visitors in Regulation.

Highly-touted QB.

Puhlease.

Kid was benched a month later.

People like sammy have to rely on fake hype because he doesn't know anything about football.

[Guccifer]

53 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said:

Highly touted QB and WR?  Who?  

It's boilerplate.

Every kid that suits up for STA is given "highly-touted" status so they can come back later and claim that they underachieved.

It's ignorance and laziness.

[Guccifer]

40 minutes ago, Wosinc said:

Guccifer, in any of his numerous disguises, has long maintained that a game tied at the end of regulation is a tie, and it doesn’t matter who wins in overtime.

It’s dishonst of Guccifer to now try to claim that STA actually beat SJB, when by his own criterion it was a tie game.

You can bet your ass that if SJB had eked out the win Guccifer would be claiming “tie game, tie game!”

This is disingenuous as usual.

Yes, an overtime game is an effective tie and the overtime period is a tiebreaker. That was true when I said it before and it's true now.

Of course now the lies come for Wosinc.

I've never said it doesn't matter who wins in overtime (lie #1), STA did actually beat SJB (lie #2) and I would never claim that an overtime loss was actually a tie (lie #3).

An overtime game goes into the books as a win or loss.

The evaluation of that game, however, should be viewed as an effective tie.

[Warrior]

1 hour ago, Guccifer said:

This, again, proves how silly people can be with their evaluations.

So a kid got some love at camps in the off-season therefore if he struggles in actual games then his coaching is sub-standard.

People like you always settle for the easiest and laziest explanation.

The truth is actually outside of your sphere of influence. Let's just call it what it is: You're not informed enough to make a rational judgement.

This staff makes 4* Jake Allen look like a below avg 8th grade qb and now you've got another talented qb that can't get out of his way with this staff...yeah below my pay grade seeing the writing on the wall....plus playmakers everywhere a running game and an above avg high school O line.  The problem is definitely not the offense coaching staff. 

[Guccifer]

12 minutes ago, Warrior said:

This staff makes 4* Jake Allen look like a below avg 8th grade qb

Well, if you're allowed to just make things up then you're liable to claim anything you want.

Jake was first team all-state and was 62% with 31 TD's.

I said it last year and I'll say it again.

If you think he was bad (or even mediocre) then you don't know what you're talking about.

This season the quarterbacking at STA was bad and/or mediocre.

If Jake was the QB this year then STA would be preparing to win another championship and you clowns would be grinding your teeth.

[Guccifer]

28 minutes ago, Warrior said:

and now you've got another talented qb that can't get out of his way with this staff..

Who said he's talented?

He's played in a handful of varsity games and the kid has been a wreck. He's been shook ever since the SJB game. Since then he just puts his head down in the face of a rush.

And the offensive coordinator and offensive line coach are both different than last year.

So you're all over the place with your inaccurate analysis.

[Guccifer]

30 minutes ago, Warrior said:

...yeah below my pay grade seeing the writing on the wall....

It clearly is when you think that all-state and 31 TD's was like an 8th grader.

You can't even get the basic facts right but you want to evaluate entire staffs.

You probably don't even know the basics about the 2017 coaching staff.