Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 5 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: Well, you certainly don’t know more than I do. You’ve proven that, repeatedly, over the years with STA. Are you suggesting that I don't know more about STA than you? That's a comedic performance worthy of a Golden Globe. And there's nothing related to this topic that you know more than I do. Keep up the validation seeking, Omaha. It's the only thing you're good at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Texasball said: The truth be told if they players from IMG all played on the same team at any normal HS - they would be everyone's number #1 team Without a doubt There's nothing special about img except for the immense talent on the roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 9 hours ago, Guccifer said: So the answer is, yes, you haven't watched a single Venice game this year. If Venice is trash, what does that make STA this year? Say it... You can say it even if it hurts really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 8 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: Actually, I’m high on ULab. I might supplant Curtis with them after this weekend. Polls are fluid. Mine is too. If you were high on them they would be ranked or mentioned in "others". Yeah, your poll is fluid alright. You seem highly convinced that you are the authority. I guess I can at least respect your conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 10 hours ago, Wooderson said: Understood, but what is your reasoning for Chandler ahead of Centennial? Centennial played more .500 or better opponents (7 of 9 regular season opponents) than Chandler did (6 of 10). Centennial defeated their out-of-state opponent, Chandler did not. Centennial avenged their only in-state loss, Chandler did not. Versus their one common opponent, Chandler gave up 344 yards to Pinnacle; Centennial surrendered 278 yards just two weeks later. And going into the fourth quarter of their state championship game, Centennial had given up fewer points for the entire season than what Chandler actually gave up during their playoff run. About the only metric that says Chandler is the better team is offensive production, yet that's a much closer competition than Chandler's defense versus Centennial's defense. For my Arizona top ten... 1) Centennial-Only out-of-state winner among Arizona elite; have state's leading rusher and top scoring defense in three highest divisions. 2) Chandler-Star-studded offense that made the 24.5 points allowed per game palatable. 3) Perry-Featured state's best, most-productive quarterback. 4) Liberty-Maybe best balance of offense and defense in the state. 5) Notre Dame Prep-Had 18-game winning streak prior to state game loss to Centennial. 6) Cienega-24-2 over last two seasons. 7) Queen Creek-3-0 against 6A opponents. 8) Mountain Pointe-Only Arizona team to take out Chandler. 9) Saguaro-Fifth consecutive state title. 10) Salpointe-4A runner-up with only losses to 5A Cienega and 4A champ Saguaro. You vs the computers... Calpreps AZ 1 Chandler (AZ) 2 Perry (Gilbert, AZ) 3 Centennial (Peoria, AZ) 4 Saguaro (Scottsdale, AZ) 5 Mountain Pointe (Phoenix, AZ) 6 Pinnacle (Phoenix, AZ) 7 Liberty (Peoria, AZ) 8 Hamilton (Chandler, AZ) 9 Notre Dame Prep (Scottsdale, AZ) 10 Salpointe Catholic (Tucson, AZ) MaxPreps AZ 1 Chandler 12-2 62.4 39.8 -- 2 Perry (Gilbert) 12-2 54.2 33.3 -- 3 Centennial (Peoria) 12-1 48.3 28.4 -- 4 Saguaro (Scottsdale) 12-2 46.5 25.4 +1 5 Mountain Pointe 10-3 44.5 32.2 -1 6 Pinnacle (Phoenix) 9-4 40.1 31.4 +2 7 Liberty (Peoria) 11-2 39.9 19.1 +2 8 Hamilton (Chandler) 8-4 38.2 35.5 +2 9 Notre Dame Prep 13-1 37.9 18.1 -3 10 Salpointe Catholic 12-2 37.0 16.0 -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 28 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Without a doubt There's nothing special about img except for the immense talent on the roster So other than having the best roster in the country, there's nothing special about IMG. Gotcha. When you post, angels weep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Cat_Scratch said: If Venice is trash, what does that make STA this year? It makes them.... 9 hours ago, Guccifer said: the worst STA team in 15 years I've only said this about 3 times already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Cat_Scratch said: Say it... You can say it even if it hurts really bad. Mommy won't be mad at you... This is what makes the people on this board so childish. They have nothing intelligent to say about any topic so they just resort to Kindergarten level stuff as if my feelings will be hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 42 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Without a doubt There's nothing special about img except for the immense talent on the roster IMG is the future... They've state support. IMG recruited the politicians kids. Football is just a side kick for IMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, TheRealCAJ said: You seem highly convinced that you are the authority. I guess I can at least respect your conviction. Suicide bombers have conviction too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteshoes Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Perhaps next season some of you with local knowledge could assist Omaha, myself and others as we attempt to put these things together. Our goal is to provide something for discussion but also to try to determine (in my case) the Top 100 teams in the country at the end of each season. No matter what we end up with there will always be criticism which is the nature of all polls. Someone asked Omaha earlier if he had seen all these teams play. I try to watch as many games as I can yet I have not even seen most of the teams in Indiana play, which I rank for the Indiana Gridiron Digest. You rely on other sources, internet sites, news clippings and state chat rooms to arrive at how you think the teams stand up against teams from across the country when in fact you do not have an effective barometer to measure them by. It is not like college football where the top teams play each other or at least have common opponents. Debate and discussion are great things, name calling and anger are not. We have enough of that outside of this forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, Guccifer said: This is what makes the people on this board so childish. They have nothing intelligent to say about any topic so they just resort to Kindergarten level stuff as if my feelings will be hurt. LOL, I pulled the Mommy (STA Admin) won't be mad at you... but in truth she would be if she knew you said STA sucked, were trash, will lose as long as they have Harriott, Smith's dynasty is dead, need help by scheduling the seal pups, couldn't beat another 7A team that was trash. In my opinion... STA is still a decent team. They did beat SJB early in the year. They still beat all but a very few in Florida. They don't suck, but if you call a team trash that beat them then you HAVE to defend your stance. I get it Mon Cheri, Narcissism can be ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 I don't understand why you have so many Ga teams in your Top 50....and you leave out the one team that is. Lowndes probably is Top 25. If Colquitt beats North Gwinnett....they'll be Top 150. And if North Gwinnett wins....they'll be Top 50. Archer is probably Top 100. The rest is minutia. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 10 hours ago, Guccifer said: A desperate validation-seeker who can't take criticism and so he lashes out at everybody who tries to tell him how stupid his poll is. How important is it for you to tell someone how stupid his effort at a high school football poll is, arguing whether or not a team is #32 in the country, while at the same time accusing him of being a validation-seeker with fragile self-esteem? You remind me of past contributors on these boards. Guys like los and canes and Carlos, who all eventually blew a gasket and were sent to their room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 25 minutes ago, Cat_Scratch said: LOL, I pulled the Mommy (STA Admin) won't be mad at you... See? You do exactly what I said you're doing. Childish, Kindergarten level stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, Cat_Scratch said: In my opinion... STA is still a decent team. They did beat SJB early in the year. They still beat all but a very few in Florida. They don't suck, but if you call a team trash that beat them then you HAVE to defend your stance. I get it Mon Cheri, Narcissism can be ugly. Please quote where I said that Venice was trash. You're so frenzied that you don't even understand what you're reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 10 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: How important is it for you to tell someone how stupid his effort at a high school football poll is, arguing whether or not a team is #32 in the country, while at the same time accusing him of being a validation-seeker with fragile self-esteem? You remind me of past contributors on these boards. Guys like los and canes and Carlos, who all eventually blew a gasket and were sent to their room. It's not about importance. It's about the truth. He is a validation-seeker. There's absolutely no other reason why a guy who hasn't seen all of these teams would put together a top 50 like this: He wants attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, Guccifer said: It's not about importance. It's about the truth. We all have different opinions on what national high school football "truth" is, and your opinion should be considered along with others. Just be forewarned that members before you have gotten so emotional about their truth being the real truth that they have posted derogatory content about other posters, which required discipline by the moderators, and when allowed back on the playground they eventually challenged the moderators to ban them. And they were then banned. Just a little forum history for someone who is halfway across the globe and might not know what has happened around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Guccifer said: So other than having the best roster in the country, there's nothing special about IMG. Gotcha. When you post, angels weep. Read between the lines moron More to a team then just overall talent Coaching, community support, funding ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Guccifer said: This is what makes the people on this board so childish. They have nothing intelligent to say about any topic so they just resort to Kindergarten level stuff as if my feelings will be hurt. And name-calling like you do every day is mature? Hypocrite much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 34 minutes ago, Guccifer said: It's not about importance. It's about the truth. He is a validation-seeker. There's absolutely no other reason why a guy who hasn't seen all of these teams would put together a top 50 like this: He wants attention. And least he trying to contribute to the fourm All you do is whine and complain You criticize everyone and every team yet you don't add any input, you say a team is trash yet you never explain what makes a team good You say people's polls suck yet you too lazy to make your own or maybe it's because you know you cant make a better poll yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Guccifer said: It makes them.... I've only said this about 3 times already. You said the worst STA team in the last decade or so beat John Curtis 27-13. I mean I know why you said that. That's not the problem. Things must be getting worse at STA is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: We all have different opinions on what national high school football "truth" is, and your opinion should be considered along with others. And they would be if these infants weren't so emotional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, maxchoboian said: Just be forewarned that members before you have gotten so emotional about their truth being the real truth that they have posted derogatory content about other posters, which required discipline by the moderators, and when allowed back on the playground they eventually challenged the moderators to ban them. And they were then banned. Just a little forum history for someone who is halfway across the globe and might not know what has happened around here. Your history seems wrong. Might want to check your sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 11 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: More to a team then just overall talent Coaching, community support, funding ect IMG's team (that apparently has no coaching, community support or funding) hasn't lost a game in over 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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