concha Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 In addition to the unemployment rate being at a 17-year low, minority unemployment at all-time lows, the economy growing at over 3%, manufacturing jobs returning, tax cuts for 80% to 90% of America's workers, millions of bonuses and pay raises announced, hundreds of billions of overseas dollars being repatriated etc etc... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/jobless-claims-in-u-s-plunge-to-lowest-weekly-tally-since-1973 U.S. Jobless Claims Plunge to Lowest Weekly Tally Since 1973 By Katia Dmitrieva January 18, 2018, 8:30 AM EST Updated on January 18, 2018, 9:20 AM EST U.S. filings for unemployment benefits plummeted to the lowest level in almost 45 years in a sign the job market will tighten further in 2018, Labor Department figures showed Thursday. HIGHLIGHTS OF JOBLESS CLAIMS (WEEK ENDED JAN. 13) Jobless claims decreased by 41k to 220k (est. 249k); lowest level since Feb. 1973, biggest drop since April 2009 Continuing claims rose by 76k to 1.952m in week ended Jan. 6 (data reported with one-week lag) Four-week average of initial claims, a less-volatile measure than the weekly figure, fell to 244,500 from the prior week’s 250,750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, concha said: In addition to the unemployment rate being at a 17-year low, minority unemployment at all-time lows, the economy growing at over 3%, manufacturing jobs returning, tax cuts for 80% to 90% of America's workers, millions of bonuses and pay raises announced, hundreds of billions of overseas dollars being repatriated etc etc... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/jobless-claims-in-u-s-plunge-to-lowest-weekly-tally-since-1973 U.S. Jobless Claims Plunge to Lowest Weekly Tally Since 1973 By Katia Dmitrieva January 18, 2018, 8:30 AM EST Updated on January 18, 2018, 9:20 AM EST U.S. filings for unemployment benefits plummeted to the lowest level in almost 45 years in a sign the job market will tighten further in 2018, Labor Department figures showed Thursday. HIGHLIGHTS OF JOBLESS CLAIMS (WEEK ENDED JAN. 13) Jobless claims decreased by 41k to 220k (est. 249k); lowest level since Feb. 1973, biggest drop since April 2009 Continuing claims rose by 76k to 1.952m in week ended Jan. 6 (data reported with one-week lag) Four-week average of initial claims, a less-volatile measure than the weekly figure, fell to 244,500 from the prior week’s 250,750 Sounds like NAFTA is gonna be renegotiated or killed as well. Well see gains from that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, concha said: In addition to the unemployment rate being at a 17-year low, minority unemployment at all-time lows, the economy growing at over 3%, manufacturing jobs returning, tax cuts for 80% to 90% of America's workers, millions of bonuses and pay raises announced, hundreds of billions of overseas dollars being repatriated etc etc... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-18/jobless-claims-in-u-s-plunge-to-lowest-weekly-tally-since-1973 U.S. Jobless Claims Plunge to Lowest Weekly Tally Since 1973 By Katia Dmitrieva January 18, 2018, 8:30 AM EST Updated on January 18, 2018, 9:20 AM EST U.S. filings for unemployment benefits plummeted to the lowest level in almost 45 years in a sign the job market will tighten further in 2018, Labor Department figures showed Thursday. HIGHLIGHTS OF JOBLESS CLAIMS (WEEK ENDED JAN. 13) Jobless claims decreased by 41k to 220k (est. 249k); lowest level since Feb. 1973, biggest drop since April 2009 Continuing claims rose by 76k to 1.952m in week ended Jan. 6 (data reported with one-week lag) Four-week average of initial claims, a less-volatile measure than the weekly figure, fell to 244,500 from the prior week’s 250,750 While I applaud and am happy the jobless rate is low, there are two things you need to consider, here: 1. The labor participation rate is still historically low. Bear in mind the jobless rate only takes into account those actively seeking employment, not the discouraged. 2. Using a single week's unemployment claims data is not very meaningful. What's more important is the moving average measured over several weeks (I forget what the number of weeks they use is), as this smooths out dramatic weekly fluctuations brought about by both factors directly related to job loss (such as a big layoff by a major employer), and factors from without (such as very bad weather). Having said that, I will agree that the trends started several years ago towards a more favorable jobs market have continued under the Trump Administration. Sadly, if he has any say in rewriting history, I am sure he will take full credit for all jobs created since the Pilgrims first landed at Plymouth Rock! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: While I applaud and am happy the jobless rate is low, there are two things you need to consider, here: 1. The labor participation rate is still historically low. Bear in mind the jobless rate only takes into account those actively seeking employment, not the discouraged. 2. Using a single week's unemployment claims data is not very meaningful. What's more important is the moving average measured over several weeks (I forget what the number of weeks they use is), as this smooths out dramatic weekly fluctuations brought about by both factors directly related to job loss (such as a big layoff by a major employer), and factors from without (such as very bad weather). Having said that, I will agree that the trends started several years ago towards a more favorable jobs market have continued under the Trump Administration. Sadly, if he has any say in rewriting history, I am sure he will take full credit for all jobs created since the Pilgrims first landed at Plymouth Rock! We already gone over this when Obama was President....concha, posted the same message you just posted. concha, is just a redundant dick.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, DarterBlue said: While I applaud and am happy the jobless rate is low, there are two things you need to consider, here: 1. The labor participation rate is still historically low. Bear in mind the jobless rate only takes into account those actively seeking employment, not the discouraged. 2. Using a single week's unemployment claims data is not very meaningful. What's more important is the moving average measured over several weeks (I forget what the number of weeks they use is), as this smooths out dramatic weekly fluctuations brought about by both factors directly related to job loss (such as a big layoff by a major employer), and factors from without (such as very bad weather). Having said that, I will agree that the trends started several years ago towards a more favorable jobs market have continued under the Trump Administration. Sadly, if he has any say in rewriting history, I am sure he will take full credit for all jobs created since the Pilgrims first landed at Plymouth Rock! 1) I am well aware of the labor participation rate, which has stabilized after plummeting under the last guy. 2) The U6 rate, which accounts for full and under-employment, has improved even more than the U3. 3) There have never been more people working in Amrica than now. 4) I agree about using a "smoothed" average. That said, it would be one hell of a coincidence for the lowest reporting in roughly 45 years to "just happen" to occur under Trump. I find you pot shots at him ironic, given the last guy standing in front of a fake Roman columns talking about his inauguration being remembered as the time the seas stopped rising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, RedZone said: We already gone over this when Obama was President....concha, posted the same message you just posted. concha, is just a redundant dick.... I don't know if I would call Concha a dick. Heck I don't even know his sex (I guess gender is the word we now use). What I would say about Concha is twofold. First, at times he has shown a willingness to have a meaningful debate. That is positive. Second, at other times he has show selective memory when presenting his side of the argument. The example you mention above would be one of those times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, concha said: I find you pot shots at him ironic, given the last guy standing in front of a fake Roman columns talking about his inauguration being remembered as the time the seas stopped rising. Concha, I find Trump to be a reprehensible human being, period. Even if I were a conservative, I would feel the same way. In that sense, I would have been an unrepentant never Trumper. The man has no sense of morality that I can discern. But that's just me and my opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: I don't know if I would call Concha a dick. Heck I don't even know his sex (I guess gender is the word we now use). What I would say about Concha is twofold. First, at times he has shown a willingness to have a meaningful debate. That is positive. Second, at other times he has show selective memory when presenting his side of the argument. The example you mention above would be one of those times. trump even acknowledged your message, but has since flip-flopped yet again.. and, is running with the glory! Fuck em' both bluntly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: I don't know if I would call Concha a dick. Heck I don't even know his sex (I guess gender is the word we now use). What I would say about Concha is twofold. First, at times he has shown a willingness to have a meaningful debate. That is positive. Second, at other times he has show selective memory when presenting his side of the argument. The example you mention above would be one of those times. Concha has meaningful debates with folks like you who are intelligent and at least make an effort to make a case and back it up. Chip is not like you at all. He is a buffoon and a troll. Not sure what "selective memory" you refer to here. Trump inherited a unemployment situation that had been pretty stagnant for 1 to 2 years. Prior to taking over, under Obama the U3 rate has dropped just 0.1% in the previous year. Under Trump it plummeted 0.7% in 9 months. Under Obama we hadn't seen 3% GDP growth since Q1 2015. Trump looking at several quarters in a row right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: Concha, I find Trump to be a reprehensible human being, period. Even if I were a conservative, I would feel the same way. In that sense, I would have been an unrepentant never Trumper. The man has no sense of morality that I can discern. But that's just me and my opinion. Good for you. Your privilege. I'd say the same for the Dem candidate in the election. A reprehensible harpie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: Concha, I find Trump to be a reprehensible human being, period. Even if I were a conservative, I would feel the same way. In that sense, I would have been an unrepentant never Trumper. The man has no sense of morality that I can discern. But that's just me and my opinion. You would probably find most true NYers to be reprehensible since you dont like Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: You would probably find most true NYers to be reprehensible since you dont like Trump I lived, went to grad school and worked in New York for 7.5 years. During that time I met, worked with and served many New Yorkers in a professional capacity. I found some to be reprehensible, some to be very nice, some that were liars, some that were very candid, in short the whole gambit. As I am not sure what your definition of a true NYer is, I will pass on saying whether I would find them reprehensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: I lived, went to grad school and worked in New York for 7.5 years. During that time I met, worked with and served many New Yorkers in a professional capacity. I found some to be reprehensible, some to be very nice, some that were liars, some that were very candid, in short the whole gambit. As I am not sure what your definition of a true NYer is, I will pass on saying whether I would find them reprehensible. Sounds like you have NYers in a shell. Little bit of everything you have stated. Usually have aggressive personalities. And a lot of NYers are go getters. They want stuff done and they want it done now. One of the reasons I love Trump. He wants stuff done and he wants it done now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Sounds like you have NYers in a shell. Little bit of everything you have stated. Usually have aggressive personalities. And a lot of NYers are go getters. They want stuff done and they want it done now. One of the reasons I love Trump. He wants stuff done and he wants it done now I agree with what I underlined. And, I have no problem with any of that. However, I don't love Trump as you do. This has nothing to do with his aggressive personality and everything to do with the fact that I think he is a selfish, mean, dishonest human being who lacks empathy, morality and basic human kindness. Some of the most aggressive New Yorkers I met and worked with were also some of the nicest, at least to those that they had an understanding with. In short, they had your back if you had theirs. Growing up in an inner city part of Kingston, being able to assess individuals accurately was essential for survival. I think my assessment of DJT is spot on. I would never, ever do a deal with him as I know there would be no win, win. No, it would be all about what he could get from me. I don't do business that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, concha said: Good for you. Your privilege. I'd say the same for the Dem candidate in the election. A reprehensible harpie. He said human being not Rep, you dumbass. You are so twisted you don't even know the difference anymore. Shame on you...for living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Darter, Curious as to your response to my answer regarding "selective memory" above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 There are no gold medals given out for partial completion of a race. Let's allow time for the effects of his policies to take hold and not look at economic markers that may be based on initial enthusiasm and euphoria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, RedZone said: He said human being not Rep, you dumbass. You are so twisted you don't even know the difference anymore. Shame on you...for living. Chip, It is entirely pertinent to refer to the alternative provided. Why don't run you racist, stupid ass to the bathroom and start scrubbing off all the skidmarks covering your face. You are just useless and could use lessons from an intelligent guy like Darter, though you'd probably be loathe to do that given his skin color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: I agree with what I underlined. And, I have no problem with any of that. However, I don't love Trump as you do. This has nothing to do with his aggressive personality and everything to do with the fact that I think he is a selfish, mean, dishonest human being who lacks empathy, morality and basic human kindness. Some of the most aggressive New Yorkers I met and worked with were also some of the nicest, at least to those that they had an understanding with. In short, they had your back if you had theirs. Growing up in an inner city part of Kingston, being able to assess individuals accurately was essential for survival. I think my assessment of DJT is spot on. I would never, ever do a deal with him as I know there would be no win, win. No, it would be all about what he could get from me. I don't do business that way. See i think thats where the left misses out what DJT is about. Its never about looking at the situation and people. Its a business decision. Hes running the country as he would his business. Everything is a dollar. Every deal every decision is based off dollars and cents. If the deal doesnt make sense for the country hes not going to do it. And sometimes you have spend money in order to make money and thats why im ok with the 1T dollar infrastructure deal. Spend the money and go back and recoup it in other ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, concha said: Chip, It is entirely pertinent to refer to the alternative provided. Why don't run you racist, stupid ass to the bathroom and start scrubbing off all the skidmarks covering your face. You are just useless and could use lessons from an intelligent guy like Darter, though you'd probably be loathe to do that given his skin color. Darter will soon see you for the twisted selective asshole you are. Everyone else here has. He's just new.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, RedZone said: Darter will soon see you for the twisted selective asshole you are. Everyone else here has. He's just new.. You couldn't debate and win against a bologna sandwich, Chip. Racist and useless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, concha said: You couldn't debate and win against a bologna sandwich, Chip. Racist and useless. I'm tired of kicking your ass. Darter will soon tire too. Tell us all about the chaos in Washington happening right NOW....no, I don't guess you want to touch that..don't be a #selective coward all your adult life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted January 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: I'm tired of kicking your ass. Mercy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taojoe Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 as Joe Friday would say, "just the facts, ma'am" https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-claims-credit-still-mostly-185032789.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 37 minutes ago, DarterBlue said: I agree with what I underlined. And, I have no problem with any of that. However, I don't love Trump as you do. This has nothing to do with his aggressive personality and everything to do with the fact that I think he is a selfish, mean, dishonest human being who lacks empathy, morality and basic human kindness. Some of the most aggressive New Yorkers I met and worked with were also some of the nicest, at least to those that they had an understanding with. In short, they had your back if you had theirs. Growing up in an inner city part of Kingston, being able to assess individuals accurately was essential for survival. I think my assessment of DJT is spot on. I would never, ever do a deal with him as I know there would be no win, win. No, it would be all about what he could get from me. I don't do business that way. I appreciate your input. But, if the economic indicators continue to do well over his 1st term, would it change your political support for him? Do his inept social norms and display outweigh economic results? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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