World Citizen Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 I see you lurking Glory. What do you think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, World Citizen said: Their purpose is to kill. To make what was alive dead. Not the most noblest of purposes. We WILL move past killing each other Eventually. I won't see it and you probably won't see it but it is where we are heading. And the reason for the kill has all different reasons. Responsible killing in terms of hunting and irresponsible such as murder. Just like a car has a great purpose driving your family around and than using it as a weapon. Again its the purpose of the person behind the gun and not the gun. If i laid a gun on the table in front of you and nobody touched said gun that gun will do absolutely nothing to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 How would we have had our country if the citizenry did not have guns? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Bormio said: How would we have had our country if the citizenry did not have guns? They would have screamed at the sky and hoped the British left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 23 hours ago, noonereal said: Funny you mention this, this was in my pocket waiting for a reply of no compromise. It's pretty unimaginable when good Christians choose gun over child but that is where we are now. Sad indeed but not unimaginable. Christian's have long ignored the very teachings that their religion is founded on. I feel that we are in another change as our religions are comcerned. Either religion adapts to the times or it goes the way of the Sun God. But I have to believe that this is not where we will end up. It simply must not. Every person of good will is vital to our progression out of the barbaric killing of each other and to a more reasonable and compassionate future. It better or i will have to start whoopin some ass. But out of love. 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bormio said: How would we have had our country if the citizenry did not have guns? you didn't just say this god Bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, World Citizen said: Sad indeed but not unimaginable. Christian's have long ignored the very teachings that their religion is founded on. I feel that we are in another change as our religions are comcerned. Either religion adapts to the times or it goes the way of the Sun God. But I have to believe that this is not where we will end up. It simply must not. Every person of good will is vital to our progression out of the barbaric killing of each other and to a more reasonable and compassionate future. It better or i will have to start whoopin some ass. But out of love. 😋 dude, we are a failed species nothing is gonna change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bormio said: How would we have had our country if the citizenry did not have guns? That was over 2 centuries ago. We would have not won our freedom. Different time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, noonereal said: you didn't just say this god Bless I guess it was the NRA that made the Founding Fathers include the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, Bormio said: I guess it was the NRA that made the Founding Fathers include the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution. Its funny how many people question the founding fathers and on the majority of issues they were correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, World Citizen said: That was over 2 centuries ago. We would have not won our freedom. Different time. The Founding Fathers included the right to bear arms specifically because they used arms to win their freedom. Any government can become tyrannical. People all over the world are fighting for their freedom even today. Their viewpoint is as valid today as it was 240 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlockIsHot Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bormio said: The Founding Fathers included the right to bear arms specifically because they used arms to win their freedom. Any government can become tyrannical. People all over the world are fighting for their freedom even today. Their viewpoint is as valid today as it was 240 years ago. Australia doesn't have guns and they have freedom. So you are saying guns ONLY provide real freedom against the government? Clown. The 2nd amendment was enacted when everyone used muskets and there was no police force. Get a clue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Just now, noonereal said: dude, we are a failed species nothing is gonna change I have said it before. The test isnt over yet. And besides, if we did not have these challenges, how would we learn and grow? We have changed quite a bit from where we were. Many things we use to do we no longer do bc it doesn't serve us anymore. I have hope bc, imho and belief, it is not possible for us to not get to where we are going. It won't be a straight path but eventually we will get there. Not a the same time mind you. Some of us can't see what we can't see. That goes for all of us actually, we can't perceive what we are not ready to perceive. Many times these challenges force us by jaring us into seeing things anew. Eventually a person who continually struggles and runs up against a wall will have a moment when they decide they no longer are served by what they have been doing and will enter a new way of seeing things. So no we are not a failed species. If we were we wouldn't be so damn cool. 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bormio said: The Founding Fathers included the right to bear arms specifically because they used arms to win their freedom. Any government can become tyrannical. People all over the world are fighting for their freedom even today. Their viewpoint is as valid today as it was 240 years ago. No it's not. At least to me It isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, World Citizen said: No it's not. At least to me It isn't. yes it is. its very valid. I dont know how you dont see that. Bormio made a great point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: yes it is. its very valid. I dont know how you dont see that. Bormio made a great point. He made a point about our founding. Now we use the vote to enact change. We don't use guns to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, World Citizen said: He made a point about our founding. Now we use the vote to enact change. We don't use guns to do this. There is no reason for change. The purpose of the 2nd amendment is still valid and should always stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, World Citizen said: He made a point about our founding. Now we use the vote to enact change. We don't use guns to do this. The government could always decide to rescind our rights. Heck, y’all keep saying Trump is going to do this. Maybe y’all better hold on to your guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bormio said: The government could always decide to rescind our rights. Heck, y’all keep saying Trump is going to do this. Maybe y’all better hold on to your guns. I'll fight to the death to protect our rights esp the 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Bormio said: I guess it was the NRA that made the Founding Fathers include the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution. maybe they could not see into the future? Ever consider that? and another thing, I don't worship rich folk from present or the past. Whether they revolted for profit or not. It's against my religion. False idols and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: I'll fight to the death to protect our rights esp the 2nd Oh shut up with this nonsense already. Good Grief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, noonereal said: Oh shut up with this nonsense already. Good Grief You really can't stay away from quoting me. Damn even sportsnut was nice enough to stop quoting me or referencing me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, World Citizen said: I have said it before. The test isnt over yet. And besides, if we did not have these challenges, how would we learn and grow? We have changed quite a bit from where we were. Many things we use to do we no longer do bc it doesn't serve us anymore. I have hope bc, imho and belief, it is not possible for us to not get to where we are going. It won't be a straight path but eventually we will get there. Not a the same time mind you. Some of us can't see what we can't see. That goes for all of us actually, we can't perceive what we are not ready to perceive. Many times these challenges force us by jaring us into seeing things anew. Eventually a person who continually struggles and runs up against a wall will have a moment when they decide they no longer are served by what they have been doing and will enter a new way of seeing things. So no we are not a failed species. If we were we wouldn't be so damn cool. 😎 I respect your approach., sereneness and thoughtfulness. I just can't imagine man ever doing the "right thing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: You really can't stay away from quoting me. Damn even sportsnut was nice enough to stop quoting me or referencing me. I told you, stop posting if that is your want. I am always fascinated with people like you. What entitlement! If you have controlled @Sportsnut with your whiny need of free speech without rebuttal (like a child) that is his mistake. Somehow I doubt this to be true however. All I can say is don't get your hopes up of me, it ain't happening. (unless I get a PM from someone that knows you personally and says you ride the slow bus) --------------------- another thing, and I am dead serious, You should be reading my posts and learning. Like a kid in class. It's fine to challenge but realize, I am the tutor, you the one in need of tutelage. Otherwise stated, man the F up. Sorry, you are a good egg, I just don't have the constitution to baby a grown man. ---------------------- Think i'll have some ravioli for supper. Always homemade pork sauce in the freezer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, noonereal said: I told you, stop posting if that is your want. I am always fascinated with people like you. What entitlement! If you have controlled @Sportsnut with your whiny need of free speech without rebuttal (like a child) that is his mistake. Somehow I doubt this to be true however. All I can say is don't get your hopes up of me, it ain't happening. (unless I get a PM from someone that knows you personally and says you ride the slow bus) --------------------- another thing, and I am dead serious, You should be reading my posts and learning. Like a kid in class. It's fine to challenge but realize, I am the tutor, you the one in need of tutelage. Otherwise stated, man the F up. Sorry, you are a good egg, I just don't have the constitution to baby a grown man. ---------------------- Think i'll have some ravioli for supper. Always homemade pork sauce in the freezer. Sports nut has respect my request and has not quoted me. So he in that regard has more respect from myself than you. You can't even honor a very simple request. Sounds like your dinner is going to suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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