Pops Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, concha said: Employers have been reacting and making decisions based on his election for 4+ months now. It's all just a coincidence, I'm sure. Rage on. Incredible that the people that understand this the least are complaint the most it would be akin to me critiquing modern art the only job a Democrat has ever created is a government job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: FOR THINKING PEOPLE AT LEAST Consumer confidence would have to be near 75 by the end of Trump's term for him to be as successful as Barry O in this metric. You're celebrated a FOUR POINT INCREASE when the very chart you posted shows Obama enjoyed a TWENTY FIVE POINT INCREASE SMH This so transparently absurd it boggles the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Don't get me wrong, I still understand that the stable economy and steady growth due to the previous administration's policies are what made the jobs growth possible. I just do think there is always a boost when there is a promise of wealth transfer, which also almost always coincides with the election of a republican. At risk of changing the subject, but really only trying to be exclamatory... I'm more concerned about a possible Article V constitution attack/change than I am about whether or not Trump should get credit for coming into a steady growing economy and getting a nice jobs bump due to promising wealth transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: YOU STUPID Yet even if so, far more intelligent than you apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, concha said: Try and focus. Jobs. Companies hire based on current (and at least as importantly) perceived future needs. Trump was elected over four months ago. But you want me to believe that jobs growth and consumer perception that has a direct affect on it are ignoring the catastrophe you claim occupies the WH and are going soley on the acts of a man who became a lame duck 4+ months ago. Laughable on its face. JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. I am tired of winning already. Trump is great Obama sucks. That should end this discussion between you and I . Trump is triumphant. I never claimed him to be anything but a supreme liar. Obama is a catastrophe and was a lame Duck so therefore anything over the last 6 Months are all Mr. Trumps success Now I am SMDH. He has surrounded by these types. A bunch of damn liars. You can't debate liars or supporters of them. I posted 2 sources because we know CNN is fake news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCIntellectualProperty Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 29 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: I can only go from my vantage point on the ground in little ol' Moultrie, Ga., where I have great interest and see many people. I see it every election when a republican becomes president, that a lot of people/business owners, investors, etc. get all giddy and start greasing the wheels more than before with the past president. I call it perception of what they want and expect being better than before that creates this phenomenon. As you astutely pointed out, no new administration's policies can take effect quick enough to create the change that I witness on the ground, so it has to be perception that changed. I've noticed that myself... but misplaced perceptions usually affect investors and the stock market more than small businesses (job creators) The spike in stock market gains are usually not sustainable enough to translate into real jobs. This process can take months iself So while I agree it does provide a brief Reagonomic like boost to the overall economy, I believe it does very little for job growth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, DevilDog said: Trump is great Obama sucks. That should end this discussion between you and I . Trump is triumphant Obama is a catastrophe Now I am SMDH. Trump has loads of issues, but he is injecting an economic confidence not seen in some time. Obama has had the economy on a steady but mediocre and tepid course for years. Growth on GDP and jobs has been positive, but low. Many have fled the workforce, which appears to be reversing course now (though early days). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 minute ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: I've noticed that myself... but misplaced perceptions usually affect investors and the stock market more than small businesses (job creators) The spike in stock market gains are usually not sustainable enough to translate into real jobs. This process can take months iself So while I agree it does provide have a brief Reagonomic like boost the overall economy, I believe it does very little for job growth The stock market is in a bubble right now and has been for quite some time. It has no business being where it is now nor where it was under Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 The economy has added jobs for 77 consecutive months, this is nothing more than the accumulated effects of moderate growth over that period. Trump didn't create anything. You bring more people into the job market over 6 years, that is what brings consumer confidence and corporations plans to expand and create jobs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCIntellectualProperty Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Pops said: Incredible that the people that understand this the least are complaint the most it would be akin to me critiquing modern art the only job a Democrat has ever created is a government job So by your faulty logic, employers had to have known Trump would be the president a long time ago. I think it's safe to say YOU are having a problem understanding this. which is no surprise Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec P : preliminary 2007 240 89 190 80 143 75 -34 -20 88 84 114 98 2008 17 -84 -78 -210 -186 -162 -213 -267 -450 -474 -766 -694 2009 -793 -702 -823 -687 -349 -471 -329 -213 -220 -204 -2 -275 2010 23 -68 164 243 524 -137 -68 -36 -52 262 119 87 2011 43 189 225 346 77 225 69 110 248 209 141 209 2012 358 237 233 78 115 76 143 177 203 146 132 244 2013 211 286 130 197 226 162 122 261 190 212 258 47 2014 190 151 272 329 246 304 202 230 280 227 312 255 2015 234 238 86 262 344 206 254 157 100 321 272 239 2016 126 237 225 153 43 297 291 176 249 124 164 155 2017 238(P) 235(P) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, DevilDog said: JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. I am tired of winning already. Trump is great Obama sucks. That should end this discussion between you and I . Trump is triumphant. I never claimed him to be anything but a supreme liar. Obama is a catastrophe and was a lame Duck so therefore anything over the last 6 Months are all Mr. Trumps success Now I am SMDH. He has surrounded by these types. A bunch of damn liars. You can't debate liars or supporters of them. I posted 2 sources because we know CNN is fake news. I SMDH when you go into 2-year old mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCIntellectualProperty Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, concha said: This so transparently absurd it boggles the mind. lol... thanks for proving my point your stupid ass should stay away from adult conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, concha said: Trump has loads of issues, but he is injecting an economic confidence not seen in some time. Obama has had the economy on a steady but mediocre and tepid course for years. Growth on GDP and jobs has been positive, but low. Many have fled the workforce, which appears to be reversing course now (though early days). Stick around sir We will revisit this topic in about a year or two. People haven't magically came back because of him in these early days. Trump 2:1: I shall tell massive lies and claim incredible gains and thou followers shall fall upon their faces and defend my pathological lies against all sane people. Thou must continue to hammer my praises till these lies descend upon their souls and convert them to my falsehoods. Charts and other manipulative devices thou must use unmercifully. Concha of Nicodemus is the head Disciple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: So by your faulty logic, employers had to have known Trump would be the president a long time ago. I think it's safe to say YOU are having a problem understanding this. which is no surprise Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec P : preliminary 2007 240 89 190 80 143 75 -34 -20 88 84 114 98 2008 17 -84 -78 -210 -186 -162 -213 -267 -450 -474 -766 -694 2009 -793 -702 -823 -687 -349 -471 -329 -213 -220 -204 -2 -275 2010 23 -68 164 243 524 -137 -68 -36 -52 262 119 87 2011 43 189 225 346 77 225 69 110 248 209 141 209 2012 358 237 233 78 115 76 143 177 203 146 132 244 2013 211 286 130 197 226 162 122 261 190 212 258 47 2014 190 151 272 329 246 304 202 230 280 227 312 255 2015 234 238 86 262 344 206 254 157 100 321 272 239 2016 126 237 225 153 43 297 291 176 249 124 164 155 2017 238(P) 235(P) They would have known the night of November 8th. Is that what you mean by "a long time ago"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: lol... thanks for proving my point your stupid ass should stay away from adult conversation Caj thinks he's smart too. You must be related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCIntellectualProperty Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 minute ago, concha said: They would have known the night of November 8th. Is that what you mean by "a long time ago"? lol... try following your logic jobs growth actually took a hit the following month... you truly dont understand what it is you're debating... and that's sad because Devil Dog respects you I'm starting to think he pities you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, concha said: Try and focus. Jobs. Companies hire based on current (and at least as importantly) perceived future needs. Trump was elected over four months ago. But you want me to believe that jobs growth and consumer perception that has a direct affect on it are ignoring the catastrophe you claim occupies the WH and are going soley on the acts of a man who became a lame duck 4+ months ago. Laughable on its face. Employers make decisions based on past performance as well as current and projections. A part of that confidence is based on the many months of historical job growth...under Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, DevilDog said: Stick around sir We will revisit this topic in about a year or two. People haven't magically came back because of him in these early days. 2nd Chapter of Trump verse 1: I shall tell massive lies and claim incredible gains and thou followers shall fall upon their faces and defend my pathological lies against all sane people. Thou must continue to hammer my praises till these lies descend upon their souls and convert them to my falsehoods. Charts and other manipulative devices thou must use unmercifully. Concha is the head Disciple. Actually, Concha appears to be one of the few on here to recognize that people are not being hired at this point based on Barack Obama. But why deal with that reality when you can get into dumbass creative writing mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Employers make decisions based on past performance as well as current and projections. A part of that confidence is based on the many months of historical job growth...under Obama. Why stay on topic with a Trumpite. That's why I didn't. They never do. Watch Concha of Nicodemus that is a smart disciple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCIntellectualProperty Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 -- If 235,000 jobs were added in February only because employers are happy Trump is President, then explain the 297,000 jobs added 8 months earlier... Does Concha and DLSPOPS even realize jobs growth actually took a hit the month after Trump was elected . These are the type of viewpoints even other republicans would cringe at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Picturing you people sitting around literally seething over Trump 24/7. Thinking of starting a pool on who will be the first one of you to stroke out before 2020. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCIntellectualProperty Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 minute ago, zulu1128 said: Picturing you people sitting around literally seething over Trump 24/7. Thinking of starting a pool on who will be the first one of you to stroke out before 2020. nawh... that'w what you did with Obama we post facts your ilk posts about death panels and shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: lol... try following your logic jobs growth actually took a hit the following month... you truly dont understand what it is you're debating... and that's sad because Devil Dog respects you I'm starting to think he pities you Hiring decisions weren't going to change on a dime and "the hit" was negligible. Up until the election, it looked like Hillary would win. Post the actual results, we've seen lots of major announcements regarding job creation in the US, including decisions to either retain operations in the US or new investment. You must have missed these as they might not have been covered on Comedy Central. Your critical thinking skills are seriously lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, SOCIntellectualProperty said: -- If 235,000 jobs were added in February only because employers are happy Trump is President, then explain the 297,000 jobs added 8 months earlier... Does Concha and DLSPOPS even realize jobs growth actually took a hit the month after Trump was elected . These are the type of viewpoints even other republicans would cringe at Perhaps they were to make up for the 43k the month before that. The rage monkeys are on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, concha said: I SMDH when you go into 2-year old mode. Spoken like a guy in true 3rd grade mode. Get him killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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