Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Tier 1 - IMG, Mater Dei, St. John Bosco, Tier 2 - Duncanville, STA, Katy, Lakeland, St. Louis (Hi), SFA Tier 3 - DLS, Mentor, Northwestern, DeMatha, Chandler, Miami Central, OLGC, Bishop Gorman, North Shore Tier 4 - Columbus, Cen10, SJR, East St. Louis, Lincoln Way East, Bergen Catholic, St. Xavier, Iggy, SJP, Grayson, Hoban, St. Eds, SJC, Marietta, Gonzaga, Cathedral Catholic Tier 5 - McEachern, Colerain, , Longview, Warren Central, Pickering Central, Dutch Fork, Mallard Creek, Corner Canyon (UT), Columbia, Mission Viejo, Allen, Colquitt, Folsom, Allen, Folsom Tier 6 - C-Hill, Westlake (Tx), North Gwinett, JSerra, Hoover, Grace Bretheran (Ca.), West Monroe, Serra (Ca), Milton, Trinity*, Narbonne, Lone Peak, Servite, Alemeny, Buford, Guyer, Lowndes, Centennial AZ *Requests to add your team will be honored. But must be Tier 6 or above to be placed on a Tier. Below is an explanation of the Methodolgy used to place the teams on various Tiers. The Tier concept recognizes that W/L records are a function of quality of opponent, and as such, RELEVANCY of opponent MUST be factored in. The Tiers recognizes that in some cases, a 10-0 team (ranked in Top 100 by some outlets) could get blown off the field by a 5-5 (unranked) team that played a tougher schedule. This is why the Tiers was created. *Not attempting to rank every team, only the ones we discuss on this site. *Teams are ranked appropriately for that week in the season. Teams can improve and regress comparatively. * The Tiers are fluid and subject to extreme fluctuations early in the year, leveling out as the year progresses. *Tier placements consider a teams entire body of work, however are weighted heaviest on recent games and game weights decrease in significance in reverse order. In other words, early road OOS losses to relevant teams can be overcome as the season progresses. *Teams placed on the same Tier can compete with other same Tier teams and possibly win 2+ of 10. *Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers. Could vary from a TD to 3 scores depending on the styles of teams playing. This does not necessarily mean that there is a 30 point difference between Tier 1 and Tier 3, only that the chances of a Tier 3 team beating a Tier 1 team are exponentially less than the chances of a Tier 2 Team beating a Tier 1 team. *The Tiers will ultimately be made up of (16) teams per Tier that would form competitive playoff brackets. *Texas teams generally have not played enough OOS games to gauge properly #crapshoot. There must be a daisy chain OOS connection for a reference point. Teams with no OOS daisy chain connection may not be placed on a Tier. (Texas exempt) *Tiers are based on exhaustive research, Multiple games watched, and good gut feelings. *This is a crowd sourced rating. All input will be considered and adjustments will be made as appropriate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Damn Folsom and SFA fell off the map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Zany tierster, No SFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Chandler tier 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Zany tierster, No SFA Fixed. Had some computer issues in the algorithems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, On2whls said: Chandler tier 3? Why wouldn't they be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Why wouldn't they be? Their premier OOL opponent Liberty NV played them fairly tightly. I like just about any of the tier 5 teams vs them head to head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Fixed. Had some computer issues in the algorithems Is this Tier 3 results.. I think not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, On2whls said: Their premier OOL opponent Liberty NV played them fairly tightly. I like just about any of the tier 5 teams vs them head to head. Your point is valid, however I wouldn't call that game "fairly tight". Especially since Chandler was on the road in week 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Is this Tier 3 results.. I think not If you are referring to Good Counsel....yes I would call them a Tier 3 team *They played SFA tough in their scrimmage by all accounts *Their style is to play tough Defense (which they have), which holds scores down by design. *I saw them in person and was impressed compared to other teams I have watched in person. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Your point is valid, however I wouldn't call that game "fairly tight". Especially since Chandler was on the road in week 0. 14pt mov vs 49, 56,63 over the rest of the scorpion stomping crowd they’ve played thus far. The revised state playoffs will ultimately let us know where they stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, On2whls said: 14pt mov vs 49, 56,63 over the rest of the scorpion stomping crowd they’ve played thus far. The revised state playoffs will ultimately let us know where they stand. You have to consider the variables. If Chander or OLGC winning by 14 points a negative, then we also have to penalize Cen10 for giving up 29 points to Liberty which is the most points Liberty has achieved. Even more than they got vs. Mililani. Cen10 also gave up 14 points to OLU which was shut out by Tier 6 Narbonne. Maybe we should go back and look at that as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREYHOUNDALUM Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Tier one, Mater Dei and Bosco. Not IMG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, GREYHOUNDALUM said: Tier one, Mater Dei and Bosco. Not IMG. I was debating that. But didn't want to appear a homer, plus we will find out soon about IMG when they play SFA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: DV and IMG must be the same tier based on results of common opponents. Not if the common opponent is currently in a Tier below them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 I agree DV should be in Tier 1. They were impressive against SJC, even though it’s looking like SJC isn’t as good as we thought they would be going into the season. Regardless its a quality win for DV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, GardenStateBaller said: My point was DV should be 1 IMO. There is an argument for that. Let's wait and see what happens next weekend. I am more inclined to move IMG down to Tier 2. I just don't see any teams on the same level as MD and SJB. It was only last week when everyone was calling SFA a JUCO team and "unbeatable" and unfair advantages, and polls even ranked SFA #1. MD victory was several levels more impressive than Duncanvilles over a suspect SJC team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: My point was DV should be 1 IMO. IF you can get down to watch SJC host The Stache next week, then you would be the only person in the country that has seen (SJC, MD, Duncanville, SJB) play in person. If you could then give us your un homer take of how these teams stack up, it would be of great benefit to the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 USA Today is finally catching on about Tiers in HS football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 This clown dropped Georgia teams because he watched Milton and figured they must be the same team as last year 😂 Sour grapes because the #3 Trinity team almost lost to a nonTop 30 GA team. JSerra was a -19.5 favorite & won by 3 in the last 1:30 ... Poor look sammy. Erase this trash & be on your way. Put $50 on it that JSerra beats Servite? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Put $50 on it that JSerra beats Servite? Not with you since you have lost multiple bets and never paid off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: This clown dropped Georgia teams because he watched Milton and figured they must be the same team as last year 😂 Sour grapes because the #3 Trinity team almost lost to a nonTop 30 GA team. JSerra was a -19.5 favorite & won by 3 in the last 1:30 ... Poor look sammy. Erase this trash & be on your way. Put $50 on it that JSerra beats Servite? I’m take a avatar 1 week , of winners choice.. my my bank account is lacking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Not with you since you have lost multiple bets and never paid off. When did this happen? Ive never agreed to a bet on here at all yet. Why do you people lie like nonstop? If you can find where I said deal... ill send you $25 for free. Ask THS if I pay, if I say I will. I just said Id send you $25 if you can find where I agreed to a bet, not just offered, in front of everyone. So if I do not, you can easily smear me & my credibility. If not. All youve done is lie, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: When did this happen? Ive never agreed to a bet on here at all yet. Why do you people lie like nonstop? If you can find where I said deal... ill send you $25 for free. Ask THS if I pay, if I say I will. I just said Id send you $25 if you can find where I agreed to a bet, not just offered, in front of everyone. So if I do not, you can easily smear me & my credibility. If not. All youve done is lie, again. It’s the RedZone Effect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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