eddiev Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, frankyjames said: The number is actually 11 if you bothered to look it up. Most didn't even play or make contributions. What do you think @Texasfrog? Did I prove my point? Same dudes calling out a public school in NorCal for transfers when they are the HOLY GRAIL of transfers! LOL "We can do it but you can't!" 11 is still better than the 71 Mater Dei had last season! Mater Dei- 71 OLDU- 63 SM- 51 JSerra- 49 SJB- 27 Servite- 26 On other note- How does Servite get 26 transfers and still suck!? Pull your head out . They are private schools and can have any kid from literally anywhere come play for them. If they choose to attend a private school for higher education and play sports there then there should be nothing holding them back from that. The transfer rules for public is different because it is a government funded school with limited resources and they try to keep the student population to a limit based on the demographic build up. Public schools can not budget for 15 transfers at one time and keep up with the current demographic population without higher attrition rates. So they make transfer rules not to just prevent sports teams from being dominant but they try to limit the transfers for yearly budget purposes.Privates on the other hand cannot just pull from one local region and stay in business so they have to reach out further than just 1 or 2 cities close to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, eddiev said: Pull your head out . They are private schools and can have any kid from literally anywhere come play for them. If they choose to attend a private school for higher education and play sports there then there should be nothing holding them back from that. The transfer rules for public is different because it is a government funded school with limited resources and they try to keep the student population to a limit based on the demographic build up. Public schools can not budget for 15 transfers at one time and keep up with the current demographic population without higher attrition rates. So they make transfer rules not to just prevent sports teams from being dominant but they try to limit the transfers for yearly budget purposes.Privates on the other hand cannot just pull from one local region and stay in business so they have to reach out further than just 1 or 2 cities close to them. So you agree that public and private should be in separate divisions due to the different rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, frankyjames said: So you agree that public and private should be in separate divisions due to the different rules? That I don't agree with. Based on the amount of private schools vs public schools, there would not be enough competition for privates to play competitively. Remember playing at a private or a public is a choice. These kids and parents choose what school they attend either there local High school in which boundaries they live in or a private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, eddiev said: That I don't agree with. Based on the amount of private schools vs public schools, there would not be enough competition for privates to play competitively. That is a choice as you say. And there is more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, eddiev said: Pull your head out . They are private schools and can have any kid from literally anywhere come play for them. If they choose to attend a private school for higher education and play sports there then there should be nothing holding them back from that. The transfer rules for public is different because it is a government funded school with limited resources and they try to keep the student population to a limit based on the demographic build up. Public schools can not budget for 15 transfers at one time and keep up with the current demographic population without higher attrition rates. So they make transfer rules not to just prevent sports teams from being dominant but they try to limit the transfers for yearly budget purposes.Privates on the other hand cannot just pull from one local region and stay in business so they have to reach out further than just 1 or 2 cities close to them. That article has already proven to be full of inaccuracies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 The article is spot on per the CIF numbers. Look at the SoCal guys trying to deflect! Next thing you know, they will be pointing the finger at public schools for having 10 transfers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, Ararar said: That article has already proven to be full of inaccuracies I did not say this from any article regarding the CIF. This is and always has been a politically financial issue. Nothing to do with sports transferring. The public school system, especially in over populated California, has to find any means possible to control student population due to funding. Each school district is allocated a budget based on growth in the districts demographic. So when one school gets more transfers that puts even more financial stress in an already under funded district. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, eddiev said: I did not say this from any article regarding the CIF. This is and always has been a politically financial issue. Nothing to do with sports transferring. The public school system, especially in over populated California, has to find any means possible to control student population due to funding. Each school district is allocated a budget based on growth in the districts demographic. So when one school gets more transfers that puts even more stress in an already under funded district. Except your not taking into consideration non sports transfers.So there is no reason to believe one school is getting more transfers than another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Ararar said: Except your not taking into consideration non sports transfers.So there is no reason to believe one school is getting more transfers than another Post the proof. I have offered proof via article. Prove otherwise, don't just make wild claims that can't be backed up. That is the SoCal way! Duck and dodge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiev Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 47 minutes ago, Ararar said: Except your not taking into consideration non sports transfers.So there is no reason to believe one school is getting more transfers than another And that is exactly why I posted this. The public school system has to find a means to control this in all aspects. One way they do it is through CIF regulations. Other ways they attempt is economic sanctions . And there are slew of other political restrictions they attempt to enforce but then again the budget can't afford to have someone or a department that can monitor that legitimately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, eddiev said: And that is exactly why I posted this. The public school system has to find a means to control this in all aspects. One way they do it is through CIF regulations. Other ways they attempt is economic sanctions . And there are slew of other political restrictions they attempt to enforce but then again the budget can't afford to have someone or a department that can monitor that legitimately. BS- Just make the rules for athletically motivated transfers the same across the board and we shall put this to rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 59 minutes ago, frankyjames said: Post the proof. I have offered proof via article. Prove otherwise, don't just make wild claims that can't be backed up. That is the SoCal way! Duck and dodge! I proved it the last time you posted this nonsense you’re just to stupid to accept the facts. the CIF has a website where you can check every schools transfers and their status try using it sometime then maybe you won’t look like such an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ararar said: I proved it the last time you posted this nonsense you’re just to stupid to accept the facts. Posting a small town newspaper article from Lincoln is not as strong us USA Today HS Sports with a credible reporter. You guys truly amaze me. #71 BTW- Why don't you post anything from the CIF? We shall wait And I mean your numbers, not diverting to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, frankyjames said: Posting a small town newspaper article from Lincoln is not as strong us USA Today HS Sports with a credible reporter. You guys truly amaze me. #71 Wtf are you even talking about? 😂 what a moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, frankyjames said: Prove otherwise, don't just make wild claims that can't be backed up Pot, meet the kettle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Ararar said: Wtf are you even talking about? 😂 what a moron The difference between you and I in a nutshell: You copy and paste Googled opinion quotes from soccer mom's and present them as facts. I post actual factual numbers, and include the referenced course for transparency. Only a SoCal dude would state, "those numbers are wrong!" and offer zero factual, sourced, rebuttal. What a goon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Rippers said: Pot, meet the kettle. Still want to thank you for proving my point earlier about the whole two kids living near DLS You helped me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, frankyjames said: Still want to thank you for proving my point earlier about the whole two kids living near DLS And exactly how did pointing out two players that live in Concord prove your claim that no DLS players "live in district"? And before you try to spin out of it, I never remotely said, or even implied, that they were the only two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 38 minutes ago, Rippers said: And before you try to spin out of it, I never remotely said, or even implied, that they were the only two. Well since you are such an expert, how many do you think there are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 20 hours ago, Texasfrog said: So again... is Mater Dei and St.John Bosco going to split 50-50 the D1 recruits from Narbonne? I figure Mater Dei might have the inside track to most of the Narbonne prospects since they already stole the RB-Yettes kid this year from Narbonne. dude...just try to read before you post... 21 hours ago, Bodysurf said: Rumor is that Jake Garcia’s likely landing spot is La Habra. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 37 minutes ago, frankyjames said: Well since you are such an expert, how many do you think there are? I don't give a shit and it is irrelevant to this discussion because as a private school, everyone knows they can and do draw from a large area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Ararar said: That article has already proven to be full of inaccuracies MD has 2 starters on O that transferred in and 2 on D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colonel Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 “Foolsome” has 15 football transfers this year alone. LOL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEOC89 Posted November 27, 2019 Report Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 hours ago, eddiev said: Public schools can not budget for 15 transfers at one time and keep up with the current demographic population without higher attrition rates. So they make transfer rules not to just prevent sports teams from being dominant but they try to limit the transfers for yearly budget purposes.Privates on the other hand cannot just pull from one local region and stay in business so they have to reach out further than just 1 or 2 cities close to them. Apparently Folsom Can.... Here is the Link: http://cifsjs.org/coaches_and_administrators/transfereligibility/TransferRulings Here is the List of Folsom Football Transfers (15): Anderson, Broussard, Arnds, Burke, Eklund, Frey, Gage, Hendrick, Jeffs, Higgins, Lyons, Perkins, Turbin, Patu, Koi.... 44 Total Transfers and 15 Football Transfers... Folsom is the #1 Transfer School In Nor Cal.... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted November 28, 2019 Report Share Posted November 28, 2019 Ah, and right back to diverting the attention away from the SoCal transfer express. It's funny, I got this dude to look up every Folsom transfer AND cross reference that with the roster to see who transferred and played football. I am playing this dude like a flute to post the exact information I wanted him to post. A little context for you all. I will break it down Barney Style for you. 44 transfers across ALL sports, for one of the largest HSs in the entire region. 15 transfers for football. SIX played Mater Dei had SEVENTY ONE transfers for football just for the 2018 season. SEVENTY ONE! Let that sink in! Mater Dei is the #1 transfer school in the nation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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