imaGoodBoyNow Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Okay can you explain what the trailer has to do with a sports Academy I certainly can't operate an Academy out of a trailer In fact there isn't many business ventures I can operate out of one Why can’t you ? There’s plenty of sports academies using trailers and training and playing on a community field, if stuff was that easy in life I would have got investors and bought 10 garbage trucks and 30 dumpsters with 10 dumpster trucks and I start a giant Demolition and garbage hauling company but unfortunately it’s not that easy you gotta start small and build up if you really wanna make money start a storage company, there’s 0 stress in it just sit and collect filthy amounts of money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Was there something specific that put it at risk and maybe that means I would want to get the best contractors for building a Stadium so I don't get thrown into a similar situation Iirc I think the the folks that built it kind of rushed it and didn't reinforce the foundation properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Why can’t you ? There’s plenty of sports academies using trailers and training and playing on a community field, if stuff was that easy in life I would have got investors and bought 10 garbage trucks and 30 dumpsters with 10 dumpster trucks and I start a giant Demolition and garbage hauling company but unfortunately it’s not that easy you gotta start small and build up if you really wanna make money start a storage company, there’s 0 stress in it just sit and collect filthy amounts of money That last sentence is lieeeeeeeee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Why can’t you ? There’s plenty of sports academies using trailers and training and playing on a community field, if stuff was that easy in life I would have got investors and bought 10 garbage trucks and 30 dumpsters with 10 dumpster trucks and I start a giant Demolition and garbage hauling company but unfortunately it’s not that easy you gotta start small and build up if you really wanna make money start a storage company, there’s 0 stress in it just sit and collect filthy amounts of money Because what would I have that would sell players on joining a program when they could go to a St Thomas Aquinas or an IMG How can the program ever get better if there is no profit and no sell point Me personally I only want to see the idea get off the ground, I personally never wrote up the entire idea on paper with the thought process "oh I wanna get rich off this" To me I just want to make a product that can be successful, if it is any investor can have the damn money I have other focus in the program as I'm pretty hands on and I can't accept sitting in some office I would want to have a more direct involvement in the program if that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 And what happens if your school fails? do you have that capital to payoff all the investors that want out? This can easily put you in a whole THAT YOU WILL NEVER DIG OUT OF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Frosty4024 said: That last sentence is lieeeeeeeee. Whattttt BLASPHEMY say you got 500 5x5 units and your renting at $100 a unit right there is 50k a month that’s not counting the bigger units outside that go for $200-250 a month that’s not counting all the late fees most of the units get, that’s not counting the thousands a week from aunctioning units off that are locked out thats not counting the money Uhaull pays you to let them rent their trucks , that’s not counting all the Tape, Cardboard boxes , bubble wrap, mattress covers, 🔒 locks that they sell weekly im telling you that’s a big business in highly populated areas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 I wish I had as much time to waste as it would take to help you with this endeavor. There is absolutely too much that goes into this. You're talking thousands in permits, tens or hundreds of thousands in concrete, tens and hundreds of thousands in steel, and that doesn't even scratch the surface. If I had to price the concrete job, it would be $20-30 per square foot just for the foundation of the buildings; that's being extremely conservative and assuming a basic design and minimal grade work to the land. Driveways, sidewalks, and curbs would be additional. There is a reason why schools spend tens of thousands of dollars just to pay people to organize the brainstorming of these projects. Colquitt County probably has upwards of 60 or 70 million in our school and athletic facilities if that helps at all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: And what happens if your school fails? do you have that capital to payoff all the investors that want out? This can easily put you in a whole THAT YOU WILL NEVER DIG OUT OF Okay that's a fair point So maybe the most logical approach would be for me to have as little involvement as possible with the financial side of it correct? Again you have probably followed similar ventures in the past and honestly my heart would be more in the athletics side because like I said I ain't wanting this idea to make money from it, the profit can go to someone else (as well as the financial risk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: I wish I had as much time to waste as it would take to help you with this endeavor. There is absolutely too much that goes into this. Your talking thousands in permits, tens or hundreds of thousands in concrete, tens and hundreds of thousands in steel, and that doesn't even scratch the surface. There is a reason why schools spend tens of thousands of dollars just to pay people to organize the brainstorming of these projects. Well I got the brainstorming part down (minus the actual blueprints and costs) lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: I wish I had as much time to waste as it would take to help you with this endeavor. There is absolutely too much that goes into this. You're talking thousands in permits, tens or hundreds of thousands in concrete, tens and hundreds of thousands in steel, and that doesn't even scratch the surface. There is a reason why schools spend tens of thousands of dollars just to pay people to organize the brainstorming of these projects. Colquitt County probably has upwards of 60 or 70 million in our school and athletic facilities if that helps at all. There is a guy in backwoods Alabama that has written a book on how not to do it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Because what would I have that would sell players on joining a program when they could go to a St Thomas Aquinas or an IMG How can the program ever get better if there is no profit and no sell point Me personally I only want to see the idea get off the ground, I personally never wrote up the entire idea on paper with the thought process "oh I wanna get rich off this" To me I just want to make a product that can be successful, if it is any investor can have the damn money I have other focus in the program as I'm pretty hands on and I can't accept sitting in some office I would want to have a more direct involvement in the program if that makes sense Sounds like you want /need someone to built this thing for you and then they just pay you to run it. Reality is most successful people who invest their quid in things are pretty hands on with their their product run the way they want it run. Not sure what you would be offering them in return? The idea of a sports academy? That’s already out there and has been for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Well I got the brainstorming part down (minus the actual blueprints and costs) lol Stamped blueprints on a small home cost hundreds of dollars. I can't even tell you what a project of this magnitude would cost. Engineers and architects don't come cheap and you are not going to walk into any permit office with hand drawn novice drawings for a school without getting laughed at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Cossacks said: Sounds like you want /need someone to built this thing for you and then they just pay you to run it. Reality is most successful people who invest their quid in things are pretty hands on with their their product run the way they want it run. Not sure what you would be offering them in return? The idea of a sports academy? That’s already out there and has been for years. Okay let me ask you this Your a billionaire CEO with 5 or 6 major ventures you have your hands on Are you really gonna have time to focus on every detail on a venture this size? That's the idea I'm thinking, I would see myself as the type of person who would know who I need to bring into the program (coaching staff type stuff) to make it successful Since I follow the athletics more closely then a rich business investor would I would be far better in tune with what I would want to bring into the program for each program to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, CCBlackhatter said: Stamped blueprints on a small home cost hundreds of dollars. I can't even tell you what a project of this magnitude would cost. Engineers and architects don't come cheap and you are not going to walk into any permit office with hand drawn novice drawings for a school without getting laughed at. I suppose a visual picture of the template would get a blank stare then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, Columbiafan said: I suppose a visual picture of the template would get a blank stare then? I don't understand what you even mean by this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cossacks said: Sounds like you want /need someone to built this thing for you and then they just pay you to run it. Reality is most successful people who invest their quid in things are pretty hands on with their their product run the way they want it run. Not sure what you would be offering them in return? The idea of a sports academy? That’s already out there and has been for years. Honestly the more I think of this idea the more I realize the best role I would fit in is probably like an atheltic director because that's where I could contribute the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, CCBlackhatter said: I don't understand what you even mean by this... Most of my design ideas for the write-up I did were basically Google images that I found that is a rough depliction of the design I would have in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, Columbiafan said: Most of my design ideas for the write-up I did were basically Google images that I found that is a rough depliction of the design I would have in mind They may be somewhat beneficial to an architectural firm... Probably going to cost more than you can pay to even schedule a consultation however. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Honestly the more I think of this idea the more I realize the best role I would fit in is probably like an atheltic director because that's where I could contribute the most One suggest I would make would be to hire the radio crew away from Colquitt County. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Okay let me ask you this Your a billionaire CEO with 5 or 6 major ventures you have your hands on Are you really gonna have time to focus on every detail on a venture this size? That's the idea I'm thinking, I would see myself as the type of person who would know who I need to bring into the program (coaching staff type stuff) to make it successful Since I follow the athletics more closely then a rich business investor would I would be far better in tune with what I would want to bring into the program for each program to win Ok, is your track record in headhunting? I’m guessing your a business major? How many successful hires do you have on your resume. I don’t think many billionaires are jumping at the idea of Sports Academy to further their portfolio. They can find many other much more profitable options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Cossacks said: Ok, is your track record of headhunting? I’m guessing your a business major? How many successful hires do you have on your resume. I don’t think many billionaires are jumping at the idea of Sports Academy to further their portfolio. They can find many other much more profitable options. Okay well let me ask you this What would be the best approach What type of people would most likely consider this kind of venture? What kind of control would those people want? How many investors could be brought in before the potential profit would be stretched too thin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Okay well let me ask you this What would be the best approach What type of people would most likely consider this kind of venture? What kind of control would those people want? How many investors could be brought in before the potential profit would be stretched too thin? My guess is that a chance to turn a profit is slim to none. Therefore, any investor would balk at the idea from the beginning. I don't think you realize how limited the number of people even interested in sports academies from the beginning really is. There's a reason why IMG academy is essentially the only "successful" venture in this area, and they were not born overnight. Honestly, I doubt IMG academy as ever turned a profit, and they survive off of state funding when it comes down to it. Remember how much you've bitches about FL investing in them? Sometimes you just need to realize that all "dreams" are not feasible. I can appreciate your enthusiasm, but you may want to consider dedicating such time and effort into a different venture. Honestly, you could spend however many hours a day you've already put into this idea, and find commercial concrete jobs for me online to bid on, and make more money than you would pursuing this particular "dream". If you want to be an AD, CEO, or whatever... There are plenty more achievable dreams than starting a sports academy from scratch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Okay well let me ask you this What would be the best approach What type of people would most likely consider this kind of venture? What kind of control would those people want? How many investors could be brought in before the potential profit would be stretched too thin? I don’t think it’s a venture many would even want to get into honestly. Way more downside than upside. Plus the country is in the middle of a pandemic, a presidential election and an unknown economic future for the time being. People might hold off to see what the future holds before looking spending cash. Honestly, can’t believe I’m saying it, but I’d listen to @imaGoodBoyNow now. Start small. Shit opening a pre-school at this time* would be a much better option. Get a track record of success for 5 or so years and then look for bigger options to expand on with your proven resume and credentials. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted August 26, 2020 Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Cossacks said: I don’t think it’s a venture many would even want to get into honestly. Way more downside than upside. Plus the country is in the middle of a pandemic, a presidential election and an unknown economic future for the time being. People might hold off to see what the future holds before looking spending cash. Honestly, can’t believe I’m saying it, but I’d listen to @imaGoodBoyNow now. Start small. Shit opening a pre-school at this town would be a much better option. Get a track record of success for 5 or so years and then look for bigger options to expand on with your proven resume and credentials. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted August 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: My guess is that a chance to turn a profit is slim to none. Therefore, any investor would balk at the idea from the beginning. I don't think you realize how limited the number of people even interested in sports academies from the beginning really is. There's a reason why IMG academy is essentially the only "successful" venture in this area, and they were not born overnight. Honestly, I doubt IMG academy as ever turned a profit, and they survive off of state funding when it comes down to it. Remember how much you've bitches about FL investing in them? Sometimes you just need to realize that all "dreams" are not feasible. I can appreciate your enthusiasm, but you may want to consider dedicating such time and effort into a different venture. Honestly, you could spend however many hours a day you've already put into this idea, and find commercial concrete jobs for me online to bid on, and make more money than you would pursuing this particular "dream". If you want to be an AD, CEO, or whatever... There are plenty more achievable dreams than starting a sports academy from scratch. IMG definitely has received state funds but they wouldn't be expanding so often if they weren't at least making some profit While being an AD is fine I definitely would be extremely restricted at a public school because the funds are next to nothing so I at that point would just be some suit walking the halls Can't put a stamp on a program with nowhere to approach any idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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