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11 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

concha peddling Afghan propaganda.

First, it's Augusto Pinochet.

Now this.

Pathetic.

 

"Propaganda" pushed literally hours after the US left the base and before the Afghan military collapsed.

It's hilarious watching you try to defend Biden's shit show.

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Just now, concha said:

"Propaganda" pushed literally hours after the US left the base and before the Afghan military collapsed.

concha now just realizing that his "major news outlets" all cited one source: the Afghan military.

He won't slink away in shame like he did after daddy Trump got humiliated. No, he'll stick around to embarrass himself some more.

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2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

concha now just realizing that his "major news outlets" all cited one source: the Afghan military.

He won't slink away in shame like he did after daddy Trump got humiliated. No, he'll stick around to embarrass himself some more.

 

Seeing as it was the Afghan military that were left high and dry, who else were they supposed to quote?

You - on the other hand - are frantically carrying water for the folks who have overseen a clusterfuck of epic proportions that has shocked the world to the point that our closest allies are even having a hard time believing it.

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8 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

concha now just realizing that his "major news outlets" all cited one source: the Afghan military.

He won't slink away in shame like he did after daddy Trump got humiliated. No, he'll stick around to embarrass himself some more.

 

The funny thing is that Afghan Andy seems to think he's doing well.

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12 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

Once again, concha utterly fails to make a rational argument on his own.

He keeps appealing to authority as if that's going to save him.

Shouldn't you be putting out press releases for the Afghan security forces? Or the Pinochet regime?

 

Anyone else notice how Andy ignores the facts that others put forth, tends to rely on his opinions, and then seems to be convinced that his opinions are actually facts?

 

Funny shit.

 

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3 minutes ago, concha said:

The funny thing is that Afghan Andy seems to think he's doing well.

I *know* I am.

You're failing to provide any support whatsoever for you claims (as usual).

When someone just screams loud then they're losing.

"People falling off planes!"

"Abandoning Bagram!"

"Leaving people behind!"

Zero substance.

Just hysterical screaming. 

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2 minutes ago, concha said:

Anyone else notice how Andy ignores the facts that others put forth, tends to rely on his opinions, and then seems to be convinced that his opinions are actually facts?

You put forth no facts.

You repeat a bunch of boilerplate claims about Taliban forces celebrating on the runway as if that's supposed to mean something.

You've put forth nothing other than reports by the Afghan security forces that sold us out.

Congrats on that.

Keep up the propaganda.

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10 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

I *know* I am.

You're failing to provide any support whatsoever for you claims (as usual).

When someone just screams loud then they're losing.

"People falling off planes!"

"Abandoning Bagram!"

"Leaving people behind!"

Zero substance.

Just hysterical screaming. 

 

All of those things are actual facts.  🤣

Literally every one of them.

 

Here's what semi-reasonable folks have been saying:

Disbelief and betrayal: Europe reacts to Biden’s Afghanistan ‘miscalculation’

‘This does fundamental damage to the political and moral credibility of the West,’ says senior German lawmaker.

How the World Sees America Amid Its Chaotic Withdrawal from Afghanistan

United States’ standing falls in 7 out of 14 foreign countries tracked by Morning Consult since Aug. 14

Majority of U.S. public favors Afghanistan troop withdrawal; Biden criticized for his handling of situation

World Leaders Criticize President Biden Over Afghanistan Withdrawal

Parliament holds Joe Biden in contempt over Afghanistan

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17 minutes ago, concha said:

 

All of those things are actual facts.  🤣

Literally every one of them.

 

Here's what semi-reasonable folks have been saying:

Disbelief and betrayal: Europe reacts to Biden’s Afghanistan ‘miscalculation’

‘This does fundamental damage to the political and moral credibility of the West,’ says senior German lawmaker.

How the World Sees America Amid Its Chaotic Withdrawal from Afghanistan

United States’ standing falls in 7 out of 14 foreign countries tracked by Morning Consult since Aug. 14

Majority of U.S. public favors Afghanistan troop withdrawal; Biden criticized for his handling of situation

World Leaders Criticize President Biden Over Afghanistan Withdrawal

Parliament holds Joe Biden in contempt over Afghanistan

The world wasn't a big Trump supporter either. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/10/01/trumps-international-ratings-remain-low-especially-among-key-allies/

1 year later and no improvement.  

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/09/12/only-4-of-europeans-trust-donald-trump/?sh=31da2c976a5f

 

Everybody knew of the withdrawal back in April of last year.  NATO and Europe.  Initiated by Trump and implemented by Biden.  A clusterfuck of a withdrawal to be sure and I'm sure a review by all agencies concerned will show where we did things wrong and what we did right.  No plan survives the enemy.  Ever.  No matter how well planned the withdrawal out it was not going to be without mistakes and this has proven to be true.   Some things went better than they thought they would as well I'm sure.  They got a lot of people out in a short amount of time but you can't bring yourself to acknowledge any of that.  

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_183086.htm

You think you are winning anything?  You have forever lost any credibility on absolutely everything.  Morals and honesty?  You have abandoned those a long time ago, so go sell your outrage to someone who might believe you.  

 

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concha claims he's posting facts but they're just the opinions of others including public opinion polls showing that Americans wanted to leave Afghanistan and that, in fact, nobody cares about this issue in the long run.

Nothing to support his claim of a "clusterfuck" or "shitshow."

Still nothing about the airlift or that the *actual* outcome was what he wanted and was celebrating 18 months ago.

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5 minutes ago, World Citizen said:

The world wasn't a big Trump supporter either. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/10/01/trumps-international-ratings-remain-low-especially-among-key-allies/

1 year later and no improvement.  

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/09/12/only-4-of-europeans-trust-donald-trump/?sh=31da2c976a5f

 

Everybody knew of the withdrawal back in April of last year.  NATO and Europe.  Initiated by Trump and implemented by Biden.  A clusterfuck of a withdrawal to be sure and I'm sure a review by all agencies concerned will show where we did things wrong and what we did right.  No plan survives the enemy.  Ever.  No matter how well planned the withdrawal out it was not going to be without mistakes and this has proven to be true.   Some things went better than they thought they would as well I'm sure.  They got a lot of people out in a short amount of time but you can't bring yourself to acknowledge any of that.  

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_183086.htm

You think you are winning anything?  You have forever lost any credibility on absolutely everything.  Morals and honesty?  You have abandoned those a long time ago, so go sell your outrage to someone who might believe you.  🤣

 

See above.

I've bolded all that needed to be said.

 

And thanks for the laugh at the end, you dimwit.

 

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4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

concha claims he's posting facts but they're just the opinions of others including public opinion polls showing that Americans wanted to leave Afghanistan and that, in fact, nobody cares about this issue in the long run.

Nothing to support his claim of a "clusterfuck" or "shitshow."

Still nothing about the airlift or that the *actual* outcome was what he wanted and was celebrating 18 months ago.

 

In Afghan Andy world,  leaving the Afghanis without US air support was good, I guess.  Not even planning for, let alone foreseeing, the collapse of an army we've worked with for 20 years?  Moving along...  Having to rely on the Taliban for security? No biggie.  Thousands of Americans left at the mercy of the Taliban to be able to leave, including school children still abandoned there? Just fine.

What an asshat.

And then there's Afghan Andy lying that I was somehow "celebrating" Trump's plans to withdraw. Describing something as "good, bad or indifferent" is "celebrating"?  

On 3/5/2020 at 7:06 AM, concha said:

Good, bad or indifferent, ending the war in Afghanistan is huge news.

The MSM has indeed not spent much time on it, which means one thing:  They think most of the American public would react favorably.

Andy is a dishonest, bootlicking shit stain.

But good for a laugh. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

Here you are celebrating.

👇

Which is what I re-posted earlier.

More lies from concha.

 

No. 

It's pointing out he got it done as he said he would. 

Distinguishing between rah-rah support and pointing out that  the man did as promised shouldn't be tough.

But it's you I'm talking to.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

Still no answers for concha's "good bad or indifferent" line and how it no longer applies.

 

This is where things go from funny to just bizarre with you.

What is there to answer? What no longer applies?

You get humiliated trying to argue and defend ridiculous stuff and then descend into this weirdness.

Please spell it out.

What don't you understand about that phrase?

😂

 

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NBC reporting the US evacuated 8,500 out of an eligible 265,000 Afghans - along with leaving Americans behind.  The lower figure of Americans left behind cited by Blinken does not include a larger number of green card holders.  While Democrats in Congress who served there continue to piss all over the absurd claims of success, and foreign allies remain appalled, our very own Baghdad Bob continues to live in fantasy world.  The fact that Biden carried out a needed withdrawal started by Trump does not excuse his fucking it up beyond belief.

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