Pops Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 hours ago, nptb17 said: I was wrong they have lost 2 games in 3 years but when teams like Eastside Catholic WA and Phoenix City AL are getting ranked, some people go hmmm I don’t know Phoenix City but know from this comment you don’t know eastside Catholic I don’t want to turn into their defender but they’re certainly worthy of top 25 consideration based on whatever criteria you want to use — accomplishments, roster, recent history (shutout centennial (az) in geico), returning players (Inc #1 junior in country) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 hours ago, nptb17 said: Based on what? Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 hours ago, abbatt said: If Arch Bishop Hoban played in the WCAC......Trinity League...they would most likely lose every game by 4--5 Td`s plus lol I think that's just a little exaggerated. There are solid teams out there that don't have intense schedules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Pops said: I don’t know Phoenix City but know from this comment you don’t know eastside Catholic I don’t want to turn into their defender but they’re certainly worthy of top 25 consideration based on whatever criteria you want to use — accomplishments, roster, recent history (shutout centennial (az) in geico), returning players (Inc #1 junior in country) Centennial AZ is a barometer now? I can't go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, 954gator said: lol I think that's just a little exaggerated. There are solid teams out there that don't have intense schedules. No that is what he truly believes. He doesn't understand dog mentality. There are teams out there that have players who don't care where you're from. They will let you know they are on the field with them. I've seen it the most from Florida and Ohio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, nptb17 said: Centennial AZ is a barometer now? I can't go. Go with #1 player in country if it makes you feel better you just attacked them because they’re from WA — you don’t know anything about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, nptb17 said: No that is what he truly believes. He doesn't understand dog mentality. There are teams out there that have players who don't care where you're from. They will let you know they are on the field with them. I've seen it the most from Florida and Ohio. Hater of Ohio- end of discussion Don't see anyone here bashing Illinois HSFB- fact! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 (For anyone) Last year Phenix City vs Gonzaga neutral site. Who you take and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, 954gator said: (For anyone) Last year Phenix City vs Gonzaga neutral site. Who you take and why? Gonzaga... last time I’d take a Al team against DMV prolly season 2 of TwoADays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: Gonzaga... last time I’d take a Al team against DMV prolly season 2 of TwoADays Ok so your reasoning is because SJC beat Hoover correct? Two completely different teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Pops said: Go with #1 player in country if it makes you feel better you just attacked them because they’re from WA — you don’t know anything about them I watched the geico series and thought they were solid. What past accomplishments are we to go on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, nptb17 said: I watched the geico series and thought they were solid. What past accomplishments are we to go on? Which geico series? This one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Based on this game I declare Eastside Catholic to NEVER be very good! (Joking obviously, but sometimes it's how some people on here really think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, 954gator said: Which geico series? This one? I watched that game as well but I'm talking last seasons game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, nptb17 said: I watched that game as well but I'm talking last seasons game. I know I was being sarcastic because it just seems everyone knows so definitively that certain teams are trash or are the best. I never got to see Hoban play, but I watched Phenix City and they were a damn good squad too. Who cares what league they were in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, 954gator said: I know I was being sarcastic because it just seems everyone knows so definitively that certain teams are trash or are the best. I never got to see Hoban play, but I watched Phenix City and they were a damn good squad too. Who cares what league they were in. I can dig it. I know you call it like you see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, nptb17 said: I can dig it. I know you call it like you see it. Yeah and if last years Hoban team were in the WCAC they'd probably been competitive IMO. Too much "hype" nowadays. Less rational thinking. Gonzaga beat 6-3 Peddie NJ 30-20 at home last year. They aren't world beaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, nptb17 said: Centennial AZ is a barometer now? I can't go. Since they knocked off STA...yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 6 hours ago, nptb17 said: I watched the geico series and thought they were solid. What past accomplishments are we to go on? WA state championships beating top 25 bellevue teams check out their roster i don’t remember seeing any that could match it in WA history and WA isn’t Rhoad Island again, not saying they’re for sure that team but they’ll test themselves this year and have enough bona fides to not warrant being pointed out as a flaw in a preseason poll imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Pops said: WA state championships beating top 25 bellevue teams check out their roster i don’t remember seeing any that could match it in WA history and WA isn’t Rhoad Island again, not saying they’re for sure that team but they’ll test themselves this year and have enough bona fides to not warrant being pointed out as a flaw in a preseason poll imho Bellevue hasn't had a top 100 squad since Budda Baker and Myles Jack walked on that field. Washington is a state that has a bunch of athletes. I'm just questioning Washington having a top 25 squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 9 hours ago, 954gator said: Which geico series? This one? Trinity Christian played like fools that day and still won by 2 touchdowns and should've won by 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 9 hours ago, 954gator said: Yeah and if last years Hoban team were in the WCAC they'd probably been competitive IMO. Too much "hype" nowadays. Less rational thinking. League hype is one of the dumbest things this board does. Sure, when looking at schedules it might be important. But Santa Margarita and Good Counsel aren't automatically good because of the leagues they're in. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: Since they knocked off STA...yes. So dumb. 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, nptb17 said: Bellevue hasn't had a top 100 squad since Budda Baker and Myles Jack walked on that field. True but remember who you're interacting with. Bellevue beat DLS once so they're top 25 for at least the next decade after that, according to Pops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abbatt Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 For the Ohio posters..... I have never said or implied that i hate Ohio football... I have a great deal of respect for it.. It has great tradition.....legacy ......history.....coaching.......players....etc...etc..etc..... What i am QUESTIONING..... is why Hoban is so highly ranked when they don`y play a schedule proving that they are worthy of their ranking.You can`t tell me that many of their opponents are very challenging...they have maybe 3-4 tough games per year.......their toughest play-off opponent last year was Washington Massillion......the equivalent of ESL....the proof was the 46-40 game won by Massillion in the last minute on their home field..Chicago Mt. Carmel has handled ESL pretty easily 2 years in a row in the play-offs and then got knocked out in the later rounds.The Chicago Catholic league is the oldest high school football Conference in the country.....look it up if you don`t believe me....but it doesn`t get the respect on the national stage that it should. Hoban is a good team....but not top 15 worthy nationally. They haven`t proven themselves against a schedule that would confirm this.Most likely they will win the state again this year......because the level of competition doesn`t test them enough. I see that they are playing 2 Canadian teams this year.......Why don`t they try to reach out to teams like Christian Brother`s.. MO......Detroit King.......Nazarath Academy IL.......it would provide a clearer baseline for evaluating them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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