Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 23 minutes ago, concha said: By your standard of "being handed" anything, Harbaugh was gifted the talent for 2 of his 3 best seasons and his 3rd 10-win season was a fluke. Talent that went 5-7 in the year prior to his arrival. You denying this is almost as funny as you denying that Trump is an imbecile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, RedZone said: That guy was respectfully fired.... Winning percentage doesn't mean as much at LSU as it does Michigan....beating Alabama and winning a National Championship matter just a little more. O got one! Miles got one at LSU, but the game had passed Les by and he wasn't changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: That guy was respectfully fired.... And? Good people get fired all the time and incompetent people replace them. Simply the fact of firing someone doesn't change the objective truths that I mentioned. You have no counter to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: He objectively was. But I know that you just hate admitting objective truths. Address the whole post, coward. 😂 As HC, the choices to fill other coaching positions are his. Offensive and defensive philosophies to use are his choices. And as it is a game of Jimmies and Johnnies, those are his also. Are you going to lie and say that high school players don't consider the head coach they'll play for? To act like he is handed a fast machine and simply needs to change the oil and filters is stupid and dishonest. But you are Andy, so hardly a shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: Winning percentage doesn't mean as much at LSU as it does Michigan.... So now math is irrelevant at LSU. 😄 Scrambling like he's never scrambled before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, concha said: Address the whole post, coward. 😂 Your first line is an an objective lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: ....beating Alabama and winning a National Championship matter just a little more. O got one! I haven't denied that. I've merely explained what it was. Even you know it but you're too much of a pussy to admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, RedZone said: Miles got one at LSU, but the game had passed Less by and he wasn't changing. Les tried to change the offense as much as Orgeron has. Orgeron rolled snake eyes. Good for him but has nothing to do with what Les Miles did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Good people get fired all the time I liked Les Miles, but NOT as much as you like Jim Harbaugh.....Les did a good job at LSU, but his time had expired. Jim Harbaugh's time at Michigan needs to expire......that is if Michigan is serious about being a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, concha said: As HC, the choices to fill other coaching positions are his. Offensive and defensive philosophies to use are his choices. And as it is a game of Jimmies and Johnnies, those are his also. Are you going to lie and say that high school players don't consider the head coach they'll play for? And hiring the right assistants in one season can be luck too. Every indication is that was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, concha said: To act like he is handed a fast machine and simply needs to change the oil and filters is stupid and dishonest. But that's exactly what happened. I don't have a hard time identifying that and admitting it. You seem to be having trouble with both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: So now math is irrelevant at LSU. They hired a loser to replace Les, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: I liked Les Miles, but NOT as much as you like Jim Harbaugh.....Les did a good job at LSU, but his time had expired. I like the truth regardless of who it benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: He was handed a team that had gone 70-21 (.770%) in the previous 7 seasons. Harbaugh, as you already know, inherited a team that had gone 46-42 (.523%). I love watching you two bozos try to claim that inheritance has nothing to do with it. 🤡 No. The teams change from year-to-year and coaching changes also. You are a compete bozo trying to argue that a program that Orgeron controlled for the better part of 3 years and using starting players overwhelming recruited under his tenure and using coaching and strategy Orgeron chose was lucky to win a title. 🤡 But Harbaugh uses talent brought in by anther man to produce 2 of his 3 best seasons and is 13-11 in 3 of his last 4 is the result of being a great coach. 🤣 Your sense of shame bypass surgery was a raging success. STILL waiting to hear in what area Harbaugh has returned Michigan to the FBS top 10. Sounds like a shameless lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: Jim Harbaugh's time at Michigan needs to expire......that is if Michigan is serious about being a contender. Oh, yes. If they're serious about being a contender they'll fire one the best coaches, objectively, in the sport. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Les tried to change the offense as much as Orgeron has. 😂 Just stop, Finch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: They hired a loser to replace Les, right? Yes, they got lucky. What are you not understanding about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: No. Yes. Again, I love watching you deny objective truths. It's like the old days of you lying and denying objective truths on the OT board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: If they're serious about being a contender they'll fire one the best coaches, objectively, in the sport. ...0-5 vs Ohio St is not the work of a contender. Pretend you didn't see that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: But that's exactly what happened. I don't have a hard time identifying that and admitting it. You seem to be having trouble with both. 🤣 Except that it isn't. You are arguing that these programs operate on cruise control forever. No such thing as bad/good/great coaching. You think you are saying something rational until someone makes the slightest effort to open the kimono. Then you look stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binko_Binks Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, RedZone said: I liked Les Miles, but NOT as much as you like Jim Harbaugh.....Les did a good job at LSU, but his time had expired. Jim Harbaugh's time at Michigan needs to expire......that is if Michigan is serious about being a contender. Jim Harbaugh has done a horrible job at Michigan. To argue is insane or Andy. Harbaugh had Andrew Luck playing QB 3-4 yrs he coached at Stanford. The one year he didn't have luck He finished 4-7. He was ran out of San Francisco, so what really has Jim done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: 😂 Just stop, Finch... Another objective truth. In fact Orgeron failed miserably in the beginning. He made Ensminger the OC during his interim year but then demoted him and hired Matt Canada in 2017. Then he fired Canada after one year and made Ensminger the OC again in 2018. Then he credited a 30-year-old grad assistant for the offense in 2019. It's incredible how slapdash it all was. Which just proves that sometimes things just work out regardless of how obviously incompetent the leader is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, concha said: The teams change from year-to-year and coaching changes also. Yeah and when Michigan's coach changed so did their record. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: Except that it isn't. It is. I'm sorry that you're one of the worst college football analysts around here. But that's a you problem. Has nothing to do with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 3, 2020 Report Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: ...0-5 vs Ohio St is not the work of a contender. Again, with irrelevant nonsense to avoid the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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