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Problems with the catholic schools...not just in NJ apparently


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7 hours ago, aZjimbo said:

Too much whining. Go out and get better. How many states seperate the Catholics from the publics in the playoffs? I bet overall its not many.

I've researched this topic a little being from Maryland and frustrated with the inability for private schools to ever play for a state championship.

Full Separation

- Maryland

- Virginia (VA allows 1 private school (Liberty Christian) to play in the public school league)

- Texas (TX allows the 2 largest private schools to play in the public school league)

- DC (regular season only, public champ plays private/charter champ for city championship)

Total Separation for Playoffs

- New Jersey

Partial Separation

- Georgia (small privates separated from small publics)

- Florida (small privates play 2A, small publics play 1A)

NC, SC, AL, MS and others all have separate leagues for small private schools but it's a voluntary situation in those cases so I don't count them.

 

IMO, full separation like MD would be awful for public school talent unless you have a football culture in the public schools like TX. In MD the top talent flocks to the MIAA A and WCAC schools. If you deny the privates the right to compete for a true state championship, what's keeping them from breaking off and forming their own league like what happened in MD. When that happens, any control or regulation the public school governing body had over the privates is out the window.

Private schools in MD recruit like colleges. Every coach has an assigned recruiting area among the local youth leagues. They spent their Saturdays at these games actively recruiting kids. Some even have their assistants coach youth teams in spring football leagues.

Schools could openly give athletic scholarships. Set kids up in apartments. Give a kid's mother a job. Send a driver to pick a kid up at his house every day and bring them to school. This has all happened in MD.

Full separation may sound good for the publics but you're gambling with them becoming irrelevant like in MD. How many of you could name one MD public school? Probably not many at all. You all know DeMatha, Good Counsel, Saint Frances and Gilman though.

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FWIW my understanding is that the PA legislature takes a fairly activist role in PIAA issues (they forced them to accept the Catholic schools in the first place), and that attempts to separate Catholics (and charters, which are a big force in basketball) have been shut down pretty quickly.

There's also issues with different parts of the state enforcing transfer rules with different levels of strictness, with the WPIAL taking a particularly hard line.

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