DBP66 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: my bad...but you would equate Putin to Biden and Zelensky??....the guy who started the war vs. the guy fighting for his life and life of his country??.....and Biden has blood on his hands for helping a country from getting wiped off the map??...you missed the boat once again...🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, DBP66 said: my bad...but you would equate Putin to Biden and Zelensky??....the guy who started the war vs. the guy fighting for his life and life of his country??.....and Biden has blood on his hands for helping a country from getting wiped off the map??...you missed the boat once again...🙄 It’s all 3 of their faults. Ask yourself this question and be honest. Would Putin have invaded Ukraine had Biden and Zelensky said for a 100 percent fact Ukraine won’t join NATO? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Biden and Zelensky violated a peace treaty. They wanted to put tanks on Russias border. It’s an act of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: It’s all 3 of their faults. Ask yourself this question and be honest. Would Putin have invaded Ukraine had Biden and Zelensky said for a 100 percent fact Ukraine won’t join NATO? joining NATO wasn't the reason for the war...that talk started after he attached.... joining NATO is a false pretense for going to war...and look what happened...Finland and Sweeden joined NATO since the war started...and you can be certain when this war is over Ukraine will become a member of NATO....and rightly so...they earned it! Putin went 0-3....Putin made a fatal a mistake for his country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Biden and Zelensky violated a peace treaty. They wanted to put tanks on Russias border. It’s an act of war. peace treaty?...with who?...they guy trying to take over your country?.....Selensky is in a war...and he could and should put tanks wherever he wants to survive the aggressor country's assault....🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, DBP66 said: peace treaty?...with who?...they guy trying to take over your country?.....Selensky is in a war...and he could and should put tanks wherever he wants to survive the aggressor country's assault....🙄 They wanted to join NATO so they can be the aggressor against Russia. Russia said no that is an act of war. Biden and Zelensky said Ukraine should join NATO, and Putin said ok you must want the war. And they got what they wanted. Billions of dollars laundered to all the crooked politicians in Ukraine and America in exchange for civilian life. It’s disgusting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 43 minutes ago, DBP66 said: joining NATO wasn't the reason for the war...that talk started after he attached.... joining NATO is a false pretense for going to war...and look what happened...Finland and Sweeden joined NATO since the war started...and you can be certain when this war is over Ukraine will become a member of NATO....and rightly so...they earned it! Putin went 0-3....Putin made a fatal a mistake for his country. Why did Putin wait until now? Why not from 2016-2020? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Why did Putin wait until now? Why not from 2016-2020? He was too busy playing Trump like a fiddle.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 11/15/2022 at 11:31 AM, OldTerrapin said: This is the kind of dumb shit that sets off World Wars... Maybe in the pre-nuclear era. There will never be another world war similar to what we’ve experienced. There will continue to be conflicts though. I still feel like this is just a big experiment with Russia and China monitoring how hot the opposition will get. At some point China moves on Taiwan, Russia reclaims all the former USSR and maybe some bonus territory, and maybe they both let North Korea get in on the fun and slap the South Koreans and maybe even the Japanese around a bit. The US is simply no longer a land war threat to either of those two. Besides, we’re too busy chasing around domestic terrorism. The Chinese and Russians have a very different definition of New World Order and it ain’t what the “has been” old Europe and US guard, or the “never been” Canadian guard thinks. The picture will become much clearer once the dollar is supplanted by Chinese currency and the economic impact of the conflicts is more devastating to western powers, than emergent ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, DBP66 said: He was too busy playing Trump like a fiddle.... I missed that part 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Nolebull813 said: I missed that part Yeah vs what Xi is doing to potatoe head 😂 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 28 minutes ago, On2whls said: Maybe in the pre-nuclear era. There will never be another world war similar to what we’ve experienced. There will continue to be conflicts though. I still feel like this is just a big experiment with Russia and China monitoring how hot the opposition will get. At some point China moves on Taiwan, Russia reclaims all the former USSR and maybe some bonus territory, and maybe they both let North Korea get in on the fun and slap the South Koreans and maybe even the Japanese around a bit. The US is simply no longer a land war threat to either of those two. Besides, we’re too busy chasing around domestic terrorism. The Chinese and Russians have a very different definition of New World Order and it ain’t what the “has been” old Europe and US guard, or the “never been” Canadian guard thinks. The picture will become much clearer once the dollar is supplanted by Chinese currency and the economic impact of the conflicts is more devastating to western powers, than emergent ones. Ozzy said it best in his song “ thank god for the bomb” with out nuclear capabilities we would be on WW 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: I missed that part you did?...go watch Trump's Helsinki speech again...when he threw our country under the bus because he believed Putin and not our intelligence....he was Putin's bitch....wake-up! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, DBP66 said: you did?...go watch Trump's Helsinki speech again...when he threw our country under the bus because he believed Putin and not our intelligence....he was Putin's bitch....wake-up! Why would he believe a bunch of partisan operatives who were orchestrating a backstage coup against him? 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Why would he believe a bunch of partisan operatives who were orchestrating a backstage coup against him? Nole, because it fits what he wants to be true so bad - plus it's the easy way. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Warrior said: Nole, because it fits what he wants to be true so bad - plus it's the easy way. sort of like you clowns and Trump's "stolen election"??.....he couldn't lose...so it had to be stolen!...🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 15 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: It’s all 3 of their faults. Ask yourself this question and be honest. Would Putin have invaded Ukraine had Biden and Zelensky said for a 100 percent fact Ukraine won’t join NATO? Yes. Putin wants back what they lost at the breakup of the union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 14 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: They wanted to join NATO so they can be the aggressor against Russia. Russia said no that is an act of war. Biden and Zelensky said Ukraine should join NATO, and Putin said ok you must want the war. And they got what they wanted. Billions of dollars laundered to all the crooked politicians in Ukraine and America in exchange for civilian life. It’s disgusting. Who told you that preposterous story? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: Why would he believe a bunch of partisan operatives who were orchestrating a backstage coup against him? Because it was not a red vs blue issue. Because it was a matter of national security. Because there was a consensus amongst the Intel community, not just a single entity. Contrary to what he told you, he does not know Intel better than they do. He does not know the world as they do. He does not know THEIR job as good as they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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