ECHS05 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: The Stache broke BG 57 game win streak, they Bergened the Highly touted NJ state champs and beat SJB twice. SJB is arguably a top 5 national team itself. then MD almost running clocked a DLS team that their coach said was BETTER than the '16 team Yeah... Miami Central beat BG too... AT BG, not at home like MD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 59 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: No way. I'd agree with you if they beat IMG instead of BC. And mater Dei would beat img The img team i saw last year was better than this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, ECHS05 said: Yeah... Miami Central beat BG too... AT BG, not at home like MD. Yes.... The week after MD physically beat the crap out of The Bishop. #Bangedup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, nptb17 said: I don't care about what some computer says a schedule is rated. I'm going off of what I've seen. IMG had the toughest schedule in the country. SJB was the best team on Mater Dei's schedule. Mater played them twice and then BG and DLS. The rest of the schedule doesn't matter and remember this is a national board. Miami Central played IMG, Northwestern twice, who imo is better than SJB, and BG. The rest of their schedule doesn't matter here either. I still think Mission Viejo was better than people think... But your right outside of SJB x2, BG, DLS, BC, and MV the rest are computer-propped up trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Theres no debating this... Mater Dei was the best team, this year. By a good bit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: N Nobody is talking about CalPreps. Where SoCal teams pretty much pick & choose their ranking. That said MD played on of the Top 3 schedules from what I can see... St. John Bosco (×2) Bishop Gorman NV Mission Viejo CA Bergen Catholic NJ De La Salle CA These 5 teams/6 games are really the only ones that count. The rest are so propped up by CaliforniaPreps its ridiculous. For example, SM is at 50 when they are truthfully no better than a Avon IN, a Gonzaga DC or a Saguaro AZ. SM is better than Avon IN. That's all I have to add to this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 What was Mater Dei's toughest road game? That's something to ponder. They played both OOS games at home and many of their league and local games are played at local colleges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, ECHS05 said: Theres no debating this... Mater Dei was the best team, this year. By a good bit. I think they should win the NC but whether they were better than IMG is certainly up for debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, PrepGridiron said: Any team that is going to be considered better will have to have a ridiculous D-Line that can bring pressure into the face of JT. I have had this arguement with Sammy. I'd give a slight edge to the Bosco 2011 team because of just what you said and their entire defense overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Theres no debating this... Mater Dei was the best team, this year. By a good bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Yes.... The week after MD physically beat the crap out of The Bishop. #Bangedup Bishop Gorman struggled for almost the entire first month of season Dematha played them tough then mater Dei and Miami Central beat them Was the Bishop still in the figuring out the team mode early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: The Stache broke BG 57 game win streak, they Bergened the Highly touted NJ state champs and beat SJB twice. SJB is arguably a top 5 national team itself. then MD almost running clocked a DLS team that their coach said was BETTER than the '16 team DLS is on the upswing from a 2 year down cycle just like Colquitt was. Claiming them for some huge victory this year is claiming the name only. Not trying to take a jab at DLS at all. I think it's pretty obvious this is the case. Sell the bull to someone that just reads the USAToday. Bergen... hmph. Ask GSB. Shoulda played Rome instead. Haha at breaking the huge win streak. Still happened on a notably down year. Very notably down for them. They're living the polls on name alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Guccifer said: What was Mater Dei's toughest road game? That's something to ponder. They played both OOS games at home and many of their league and local games are played at local colleges. Did you have any better luck looking for flaws in the Mona Lisa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, HawgGoneIt said: DLS is on the upswing from a 2 year dowb cycle just like Colquitt was. Claiming them for some huge victory this year is claiming the name only. Not trying to take a jab at DLS at all. I think it's pretty obvious this is the case. Sell the bull to someone that just reads the USAToday. Bergen... hmph. Ask GSB. Shoulda played Rome instead. Haha at breaking the huge win streak. Still happened on a notably down year. Very notably down for them. They're living the polls on name alone. Not claiming a "huge" victory. But it was a better win than any team in Ga or Texas had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Guccifer said: I think they should win the NC but whether they were better than IMG is certainly up for debate. While your debating with yourself about this, let us know how much D-1 talent the STA coaches will squander in 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, Guccifer said: I think they should win the NC but whether they were better than IMG is certainly up for debate. The thing i notice with img is they usually don't look like they trying very hard in these games Really wish these 2 would play though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, Sammyswordsman said: My claiming a "huge" victory. But it was a better win than any team in Ga or Texas had. Bro, you are trying to sell this team as the greates ever. Top 5 schedule. Take this mess of a piece of the argument to the Mater Dei for natty champ thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 I wouldn't say greatest ever It's ridiculous to compare teams from 10+ years ago to now But as for 2017 mater dei is best this year and any legit poll will have them number 1 in final rankings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, HawgGoneIt said: Bro, you are trying to sell this team as the greates ever. Top 5 schedule. Take this mess of a piece of the argument to the Mater Dei for natty champ thread. It's not just me "selling" this MD team as the best ever.... Crack a newspaper sometime. I'll wait for your response for another 10 days, until the papers arrive in South Ga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted December 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, Columbiafan said: I wouldn't say greatest ever It's ridiculous to compare teams from 10+ years ago to now But as for 2017 mater dei is best this year and any legit poll will have them number 1 in final rankings So your saying the teams 10 years ago were better? How about 30 years ago or 50 years ago? Were they better as well? You.Are.Nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, aZjimbo said: I have had this arguement with Sammy. I'd give a slight edge to the Bosco 2011 team because of just what you said and their entire defense overall. Although not known as a running QB, he did extend series with his legs. Best team this year, yes. Best all time? You can't argue that they would be in the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: So your saying the teams 10 years ago were better? How about 30 years ago or 50 years ago? Were they better as well? You.Are.Nuts This happens all the time, we look at a team that wins this year and say goat We did same with teams like Bishop Gorman last year There are great teams every year so we can't just assume they would beat all these top teams from previous years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Sammyswordsman said: So your saying the teams 10 years ago were better? How about 30 years ago or 50 years ago? Were they better as well? You.Are.Nuts No I think he's just saying it's hard to compare which I don't think it is from 10 years ago. I can still remember going to games and Nippert Stadium or Paul Brown stadium. I think JT is the best hs qb i've seen since Brian Brohm and if you remember I said that last season when I jumped on the Mater Dei bandwagon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, old_e said: Although not known as a running QB, he did extend series with his legs. Best team this year, yes. Best all time? You can't argue that they would be in the discussion. Extremely good team for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, nptb17 said: No I think he's just saying it's hard to compare which I don't think it is from 10 years ago. I can still remember going to games and Nippert Stadium or Paul Brown stadium. I think JT is the best hs qb i've seen since Brian Brohm and if you remember I said that last season when I jumped on the Mater Dei bandwagon. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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