BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/opinion/trump-courageous-iran-decision.html I like this decision, probably only one I’m comfortable with. Simply put, I feel we as a nation have capitulated to the Iranians beginning with the hostage crisis. Rogue terrorist nation. Fuck em, C.A. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 What do you expect will now occur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, noonereal said: What do you expect will now occur? What is the Iranian economy now? 6000 rials to the dollar and labor unrest? Hopefully implode which is unlikely... but certainly the pressure will be on the Iranian regime, may have to sell more crude. Let the Iranian's buck until tired. Don't really have an answer except to say hopeful this will undo 30 years of ass kissing. Doubtful any immediate impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Don't really have an answer This is the problem and why I felt we should have left the treaty in place and start to pressure Iran on stopping their rock developments. Plus I really don't like a complete dismantling of a previous administration's work for political gain. I think this has lasting repercussions. We need to be one country not wingnuts and left loons. Thanks for the reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, noonereal said: This is the problem and why I felt we should have left the treaty in place and start to pressure Iran on stopping their rock developments. Plus I really don't like a complete dismantling of a previous administration's work for political gain. I think this has lasting repercussions. We need to be one country not wingnuts and left loons. Thanks for the reply. I don't have an answer as to what exactly is going to happen next. The right thing to do was dismantle the agreement. I don't agree as to it being a political move. Don't piece out my response and twist it to your end. I'll stop engaging in your little bitch girlfriend session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 41 minutes ago, noonereal said: What do you expect will now occur? You will wet yourself on a daily basis over it. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Don't piece out my response and twist it to your end. I'll stop engaging in your little bitch girlfriend session. what on earth are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 Just now, concha said: You will wet yourself on a daily basis over it. . No concha, you are the coward who is scared of immigrants, needs a gun to feel safe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, noonereal said: what on earth are you talking about? Let the Iranian's buck until tired. Don't really have an answer except to say hopeful this will undo 30 years of ass kissing. You pieced out a part of my response to twist it to your end. NOT fucking cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, noonereal said: No concha, you are the coward who is scared of immigrants, needs a gun to feel safe. Yeah... I kinda married an immigrant. My father is an immigrant... You're kinda circling around the toilet of stupidity and looniness lately, nooner. Grab the edge and pull yourself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Let the Iranian's buck until tired. Don't really have an answer except to say hopeful this will undo 30 years of ass kissing. You pieced out a part of my response to twist it to your end. NOT fucking cool. What is not cool is you being paranoid and so defensive that a normal respectful conversation cannot be had. I thought I was in a very civil and polite exchange. stupid Fuckin' me. I am over it. Trump wins. People can no longer talk. You win, I am out of here. Cesspool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, concha said: Yeah... I kinda married an immigrant. My father is an immigrant... You're kinda circling around the toilet of stupidity and looniness lately, nooner. Grab the edge and pull yourself out. later dude, it's been fun. I was gonna shoot you a PM, I still may. Hope all is well in your life. Peace brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, concha said: Yeah... I kinda married an immigrant. My father is an immigrant... You're kinda circling around the toilet of stupidity and looniness lately, nooner. Grab the edge and pull yourself out. We have no issue with legal immigration. We have a huge problem with Illegal immigration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, noonereal said: What is not cool is you being paranoid and so defensive that a normal respectful conversation cannot be had. I thought I was in a very civil and polite exchange. stupid Fuckin' me. I am over it. Trump wins. People can no longer talk. You win, I am out of here. Cesspool. Oh just stop, dude. You sound like my teenager daughter. You’re better than that. Seriously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Blueliner said: Oh just stop, dude. You sound like my teenager daughter. You’re better than that. Seriously. Yes he is actually better than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Drummer61 said: We have been capitulating since the Korean War....'This could be an opportunity to stomp Iran....We ran right over Iraq,let's run over Iran...Appeasement never stops a bully and we could ,with resolve,return to our status after WW 2.... Its now or never....If we continue to appease, after, 68 years without a show of real force,we die a slow death....I assure you,nobody will ever appease us..👽👽 Good point! Or even further back, we didn’t push the Russians back to their border. WWII We could start there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, noonereal said: No concha, you are the coward who is scared of immigrants, needs a gun to feel safe. He needs more than a gun to stay safe where he lives! Homelessness and poverty everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, noonereal said: What is not cool is you being paranoid and so defensive that a normal respectful conversation cannot be had. I thought I was in a very civil and polite exchange. stupid Fuckin' me. I am over it. Trump wins. People can no longer talk. You win, I am out of here. Cesspool. Cmon brother. Take a breath and lace up your sneakers and get back in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Good point! Or even further back, we didn’t push the Russians back to their border. WWII We could start there. Lol@ good point. Really? Pushing Russia back to their border wasn't possible. Today we could be doing more I think. Sanctions is where I would start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, World Citizen said: Lol@ good point. Really? Pushing Russia back to their border wasn't possible. Today we could be doing more I think. Sanctions is where I would start. General Patton and McArthur would have disagreed vehemently. At the close of WWII Cost McArthur career wise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, concha said: Yeah... I kinda married an immigrant. My father is an immigrant... My, man! So WHAT? If you are going to use that card every other week explain to us why it matters and who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, World Citizen said: Lol@ good point. Really? Pushing Russia back to their border wasn't possible. Today we could be doing more I think. Sanctions is where I would start. In WWII, push Russians back after annihilating Nazi's and Japan while we had the capability was my point. Today, sanctions obviously. I see your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 9, 2018 Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 4 hours ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: He needs more than a gun to stay safe where he lives! Homelessness and poverty everywhere. Hmmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 8 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: In WWII, push Russians back after annihilating Nazi's and Japan while we had the capability was my point. Today, sanctions obviously. I see your point. Imo, it was not possible to push Russia back. We couldn't push and they couldn't resist a push. Both of us were completely at the end of what we could do. If we could have we would have done so rather than have to deal with the Berlin blockades and having to airlift food into East Berlin. They were also our ally during WW2 and the country had no desire to continue fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 8 hours ago, World Citizen said: Imo, it was not possible to push Russia back. We couldn't push and they couldn't resist a push. Both of us were completely at the end of what we could do. If we could have we would have done so rather than have to deal with the Berlin blockades and having to airlift food into East Berlin. They were also our ally during WW2 and the country had no desire to continue fighting. Why wasn't it possible? Russians were shooting their own troops in the back to get them to advance, shortage of ammo food, medical, fuel, decrepit equipment, and troop morale was low, and the Russians were led by Josef Stalin a brutal asshole, their only ally was the harsh winters. Which the Russians used against the Germans, allowed the Germans to overrun their supplies and fueling capabilities executing blitzkrieg. We had nuclear capability. Russians had vodka and dancing bears. If McArthur says push the Russians back, I'm putting my money on the decorated war general who was actually there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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