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18 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

 

So whattaya think, DB?

Validity or no?

There is instances of conservatism shut down on campuses notably Cal Berkeley. 

BGW

Personally, I am for free speech across a broad spectrum. The only type of speech I would consider regulating is that which openly advocates attacking other groups of people. For when that is done, it is an incitement to violence. 

I believe one of the biggest challenges facing the USA today is the fact that they are really very few individuals, whether on the right or left, that truly believe in a free, open society, where all points of view can be debated. In fact, most don't wish to debate; rather they would prefer to ram their point of view down the throats of others. 

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44 minutes ago, DarterBlue said:

Personally, I am for free speech across a broad spectrum. The only type of speech I would consider regulating is that which openly advocates attacking other groups of people. For when that is done, it is an incitement to violence. 

I believe one of the biggest challenges facing the USA today is the fact that they are really very few individuals, whether on the right or left, that truly believe in a free, open society, where all points of view can be debated. In fact, most don't wish to debate; rather they would prefer to ram their point of view down the throats of others. 

I'm for free speech also but in cases like the Berkeley incident, who wants to hear some asshole talking about hating on people?  

There is not much worth listening to or debating when a speaker just has stupidity and ignorance pouring out of his mouth.  They won't convince me that being an ignorant bigot is a good thing and I won't convince them to not be a dick.  

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2 hours ago, DarterBlue said:

Personally, I am for free speech across a broad spectrum. The only type of speech I would consider regulating is that which openly advocates attacking other groups of people. For when that is done, it is an incitement to violence. 

I believe one of the biggest challenges facing the USA today is the fact that they are really very few individuals, whether on the right or left, that truly believe in a free, open society, where all points of view can be debated. In fact, most don't wish to debate; rather they would prefer to ram their point of view down the throats of others. 

DB, I respect you. But the left has a firm sack grip on the scrotum of the suppression of free speech. Can you please give me an example or two of the right surpressing free speech? I see an attempt at suppression every friggin’ day by the left. Every day. Seriously. Please don’t include “everyone” so the left can feel good about themselves.

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16 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

DB, I respect you. But the left has a firm sack grip on the scrotum of the suppression of free speech. Can you please give me an example or two of the right surpressing free speech? I see an attempt at suppression every friggin’ day by the left. Every day. Seriously. Please don’t include “everyone” so the left can feel good about themselves.

1. Let's take the video linked by Buford at the beginning of this thread. Taken to its logical conclusion, it would lead to the suppression of free speech. 

2. Let's also look at the right's approach to Public Television, which tends to lean left. Up to and through the 2012 elections, the philosophy of the right was to defund public TV. Thus Romney in his campaign made cutting funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting central despite the fact that such funding is a literal ant in the grander scheme of government expenditures. Now since then, the right's approach to public television has changed. In fact the Koch brothers now provide major funding. In so doing, my feeling is that they will attempt to influence what is broadcast to remake it to some degree in a right leaning image. 

3.  A final example, though I could list many more. The whole nature of what is acceptable to debate has narrowed over the years. Thus, intelligent, learned individuals such as a Noam Chomsky have been totally shut out of the debate because his views are deemed to be too far left. Now true, it is not the right per se that have censured people like Chomsky. Rather it is the entire media complex which finds such views inimical to what is considered acceptable politics and economics. 

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31 minutes ago, DarterBlue said:

1. Let's take the video linked by Buford at the beginning of this thread. Taken to its logical conclusion, it would lead to the suppression of free speech. 

2. Let's also look at the right's approach to Public Television, which tends to lean left. Up to and through the 2012 elections, the philosophy of the right was to defund public TV. Thus Romney in his campaign made cutting funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting central despite the fact that such funding is a literal ant in the grander scheme of government expenditures. Now since then, the right's approach to public television has changed. In fact the Koch brothers now provide major funding. In so doing, my feeling is that they will attempt to influence what is broadcast to remake it to some degree in a right leaning image. 

3.  A final example, though I could list many more. The whole nature of what is acceptable to debate has narrowed over the years. Thus, intelligent, learned individuals such as a Noam Chomsky have been totally shut out of the debate because his views are deemed to be too far left. Now true, it is not the right per se that have censured people like Chomsky. Rather it is the entire media complex which finds such views inimical to what is considered acceptable politics and economics. 

Interesting, I would think the media to be left of center in general. 

Thanks DB. 

BGW

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32 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

Interesting, I would think the media to be left of center in general. 

Thanks DB. 

BGW

The media is very different today than in the 1960s -1980s. There was once a time when both an Ayn Rand and Noam Chomsky would get interviewed on one of the then networks (NBC, CBS, ABC). Not so today. If Rand were alive, her only hope for a national voice would be Fox News. In the case of Chomsky or for that matter a Ralph Nader, they have been banished to the nether regions. 

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