RedZone Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 WTF???? https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics/endangered-species-act-animals-saved-from-extinction-trnd/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=2018-07-26T00%3A47%3A25&utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 16 hours ago, RedZone said: WTF???? https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics/endangered-species-act-animals-saved-from-extinction-trnd/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=2018-07-26T00%3A47%3A25&utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNN No reason for this. Just being an ass. Don't forget his wanting to open up drilling in Alaska bc money is far more important than leaving the environment pristine for future generations. And to think we need this is to not think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 I read this, and I’m all for it. If these animals were too weak and stupid to survive and thrive on their own do we really want the nanny state to protect them? Where does it end? WIC and Section 8 for these creatures? “Animal Rights” being read into the Constituton by a runaway SCOTUS? Perhaps the GOP congress could institute a “workfare” program where we ensure their survival if they get a job? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 There is no balance to the Administration, capitalism drives everything. The environment is simply an inconvenience to that goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterBlue Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Horsefly said: There is no balance to the Administration, capitalism drives everything. The environment is simply an inconvenience to that goal. Sadly, this will end tragically for the animals, and for us. Ignorance, a lack of stewardship, blind greed ... I could go on and on ... but I will pass. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 Ehhhhhhh the bald eagle was on the list thats the national symbol of America. I can understand if there are plenty of them than do what you gotta do but when the numbers dwindle again they are gonna what be put on the list. I understand things like this get in the way of progress and making money but this move will not help him make any new friends let's say. I can say this is one move I cannot back him on the issue until more details come out 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Ehhhhhhh the bald eagle was on the list thats the national symbol of America. I can understand if there are plenty of them than do what you gotta do but when the numbers dwindle again they are gonna what be put on the list. I understand things like this get in the way of progress and making money but this move will not help him make any new friends let's say. I can say this is one move I cannot back him on the issue until more details come out 😳. I'm truly shocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 26, 2018 Report Share Posted July 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, Horsefly said: 😳. I'm truly shocked I was too typing it. But since I fish and would like to keep the population of fish healthy and my family hunts and yea that part of a responsible animal control in terms of hunting permits and how many tags your allowed. I also dont like that people including myself hate that there are deer everywhere and are constantly being hit on the road but there is no land left for them to be in. Also over development of houses makes neighborhoods look horrible. So there is a responsibility factor in this decision when it comes to this topic 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 9 hours ago, HSFBfan said: I was too typing it. But since I fish Ocean or freshwater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 7 hours ago, On2whls said: Ocean or freshwater? Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, HSFBfan said: Both In So Cal, freshwater fishing is not very good. We’re having another really good year offshore though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, On2whls said: In So Cal, freshwater fishing is not very good. We’re having another really good year offshore though. Here in NY there are some very good fishing lakes for freshwater and some not so good lakes. I haven't been out saltwater this year so not sure how the action has been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 21 hours ago, Hardcore Troubador said: I read this, and I’m all for it. If these animals were too weak and stupid to survive and thrive on their own do we really want the nanny state to protect them? Where does it end? WIC and Section 8 for these creatures? “Animal Rights” being read into the Constituton by a runaway SCOTUS? Perhaps the GOP congress could institute a “workfare” program where we ensure their survival if they get a job? Some of these endangered animals are on the list because of hunting by man... Survival is important but at the same hunting an animal to near extinction isnt a good idea... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 21 hours ago, Horsefly said: There is no balance to the Administration, capitalism drives everything. The environment is simply an inconvenience to that goal. Those pesky trees and this obnoxious fresh air is keeping money out of my pocket... Get rid of it all... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 To be clear, what's happening are changes. Not elimination of the Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 22 hours ago, Hardcore Troubador said: I read this, and I’m all for it. If these animals were too weak and stupid to survive and thrive on their own do we really want the nanny state to protect them? Where does it end? WIC and Section 8 for these creatures? “Animal Rights” being read into the Constituton by a runaway SCOTUS? Perhaps the GOP congress could institute a “workfare” program where we ensure their survival if they get a job? They could be weak and stupid OR their being encroached upon by people or business wanting to drill for oil. Either way, it's shortsighted. Is it just these animals that don't deserve protection? Are there animals worthy of your support? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 50 minutes ago, concha said: To be clear, what's happening are changes. Not elimination of the Act. Why the changes? Maybe bc Trump can't destroy the environment in one single act and it will take several. Well on his way though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, World Citizen said: Why the changes? Maybe bc Trump can't destroy the environment in one single act and it will take several. Well on his way though. I understand that the secret plan to destroy all plant life on the planet is well underway. Stockpiles of Agent Orange are growing every day. What are the catastrophic changes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, concha said: I understand that the secret plan to destroy all plant life on the planet is well underway. Stockpiles of Agent Orange are growing every day. What are the catastrophic changes? I don’t know if most Americans understand that it’s going to be a long and brutal fight against that bitch-of-all-bitches, Mother Nature. But I’ll be damned if we let her beat us for control of the planet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, World Citizen said: They could be weak and stupid OR their being encroached upon by people or business wanting to drill for oil. Either way, it's shortsighted. Is it just these animals that don't deserve protection? Are there animals worthy of your support? No. To both questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, concha said: I understand that the secret plan to destroy all plant life on the planet is well underway. Stockpiles of Agent Orange are growing every day. What are the catastrophic changes? Screw the Agent Orange. Pretty sure I heard then candidate Trump say in a debate with Bernie that we should use our nukes and turn every forest into glass. We got ‘em just lying around and haven’t used them since 1945! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, concha said: I understand that the secret plan to destroy all plant life on the planet is well underway. Stockpiles of Agent Orange are growing every day. What are the catastrophic changes? Again I'll ask. Why the change then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, World Citizen said: Again I'll ask. Why the change then? Don't know. But rhe Hysterical Middle School Girl Posse reaction was noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 35 minutes ago, Hardcore Troubador said: I don’t know if most Americans understand that it’s going to be a long and brutal fight against that bitch-of-all-bitches, Mother Nature. But I’ll be damned if we let her beat us for control of the planet! We already are top of the food chain and do control the planet. Mother Nature is not an enemy. Do You think National Parks are a good thing? Are streams and lakes important? Or is it just animals that you don't care about? Not trying to be judgemental, I'm just trying to understand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, concha said: Don't know. But rhe Hysterical Middle School Girl Posse reaction was noted. You seem to know it's no big deal so I thought you might have an actual idea. My bad though, didn't realize you were just defending your hero without any idea why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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