DBP66 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: We don't believe....We KNOW!! And you turning a blind eye is Unamerican. and what does Bozo know?...who's money did they get?...American tax dollars??...NO..or did they get back money we confiscated that BELONGED to Iran aka..what we stole from them in the first place...you guys are out of your minds crazy and ill informed...PLEASE turn off Fox news for a while and get away from the world of "alternative facts"....Unamerican??..LOL..#toofunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, DBP66 said: we "gave" them back money we stole from them...get it now champ?..stop embarrassing yourself....🤡 Strictly Going by your incoherent sentences you attempt to construct, it would take you months to read the amount I have about the Iran deal. You didn’t answer my Q, why didn’t any of the aforementioned presidents give Iran back the money we allegedly “stole” from them? Please answer this question .... most liberals have no answer to it? IE. Why didn’t bush make the payment pre Obama? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: Strictly Going by your incoherent sentences you attempt to construct, it would take you months to read the amount I have about the Iran deal. You didn’t answer my Q, why didn’t any of the aforementioned presidents give Iran back the money we allegedly “stole” from them? Please answer this question .... most liberals have no answer to it? IE. Why didn’t bush make the payment pre Obama? you're not worth a sentence...and it wasn't a payment...Obama gave them their money back as part of a multi-nation anti-nuke agreement they complied with...will you now stop embarrassing yourself?...PLEASE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, DBP66 said: you're not worth a sentence...and it wasn't a payment...Obama gave them their money back as part of a muti-nation anti-nuke agreement??...will you now stop embarrassing yourself...PLEASE! You, like most liberals, cannot answer the Q why Obama was the one that sent the money. Shocking. Just Imagine if your son was one of the 19 Air Force members killed in the 1996 Khobar Tower bombings which Iran admitted responsibility. Twenty years later, YOUR president is sending said country billions in cash in unmarked cargo planes. I’m sure you’d feel differently .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 Here’s a small piece even a shmendrick like you can comprehend: There is law against providing material support to terrorists, Section 2339A of the federal penal code. It says that anyone who provides resources — including “currency or monetary instruments” — to a person or entity with knowledge that they are to be used in the preparation or carrying out of terrorism offenses is guilty of a serious felony. I’ve italicized “knowledge” to underscore that intent is not required; to be guilty, you just need to know. As we note above, the Obama administration has just reaffirmed that Iran remains a state sponsor of terrorism. Moreover, as our editors recounted in Friday’s National Revieweditorial: [Secretary of State] John Kerry even admitted in January that funds channeled to Iran as part of the nuclear deal would “end up in the hands of the IRGC [Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps] or other entities, some of which are labeled terrorists.” No doubt: The IRGC’s Quds Force is a formally designated terrorist organization, as, of course, is Hezbollah, Iran’s forward jihadist militia with which the IRGC colludes. And as Tom Joscelyn recently pointed out, Iran continues to harbor members of al-Qaeda (three of whom were just formally designated as terrorists). In sum, the Obama administration has provided Iran with $400 million under circumstances in which it well knows that at least some of this cash will be used for terrorism. Indeed, as the editors point out, by providing the money in cash, Obama makes it more likely that it will be used for terrorism: Iran likes to deny its complicity in jihadist acts; so now, flush with cash, it can fund atrocities without leaving a paper trail. The second law involves money laundering, criminalized by Congress in Section 1956 of the penal code. There are several prohibited varieties of money laundering. It can be a crime, for example, to conduct a financial transaction involving money used to facilitate unlawful activity. And if money is transferred outside the United States, it can be illegal to use it to promote criminal activity. related#As we’ve seen, both currency transmissions to Iran and the provision of material support to terrorism are unlawful activities. The administration has conducted a financial transaction (in fact, several transactions: the issuance of the assets, their conversion into foreign currency, and the transmission to Iran) which facilitated both currency transfers to Iran and Iran’s certain use of the money to support terrorism. Plus, the money was shipped outside the United States before being transferred to Iran and before Iran will use it to promote terrorism. Money-laundering cases often boil down to proof of intent; but there clearly are multiple grounds on which to investigate whether the laws have been transgressed. The circumstances of Obama’s enormous cash transfer to our terrorist enemies raise serious questions about whether American policy against paying ransoms to terrorists has been flouted. But that should not obscure a more fundamental issue: The president has violated the law. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: http://www.thewashingtonpundit.com/blank-1/2018/11/19/Mexicans-Becoming-Pro-Trump-in-Areas-where-Migrant-Caravan-Left-Path-of-Destruction The rest of the world is latching on!!! #winning the rest of the world is laughing at us... Trump says while he standing in rubble that he spoke with the pres. of Finland he told trump they have no problems with forest fires because they rake!!...only problem??...the Pres. of Finland said he never talked with Trump about this and the climate in Finland is very different form Cal. and they don't have fire problems to begin with...so in today news people in Finland are posing with their rakes to goof on Trump...as the world laughs a little louder at our lying clown President.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, DBP66 said: ......as the world laughs a little louder at me.... FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted November 20, 2018 Report Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 6:23 AM, Horsefly said: I thought this was an invasion and as a nation we were on high alert? Has anybody noticed that now that the midterms are over heavy coverage about the caravan has decreased? Even over at old Fox News I couldn’t find much about it. Funny how WEEKS later, there is still front page news on this DAILY... Guess you did not think this thread title thru too much...or realize how much more stupid it would look for you every day.... TODAY's front page seems to be a rousing call for support for the caranotvanished. All gay and gay sympathizing people take note... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/dream-come-true-migrant-caravan-lgbtq-couples-celebrate-mass-wedding/ar-BBPSM1Q?ocid=spartanntp And of course your whole thread premise, is one that this whole issue is all manufactured from the right...….🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 11/20/2018 at 5:01 AM, Troll said: Funny how WEEKS later, there is still front page news on this DAILY... Guess you did not think this thread title thru too much...or realize how much more stupid it would look for you every day.... TODAY's front page seems to be a rousing call for support for the caranotvanished. All gay and gay sympathizing people take note... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/dream-come-true-migrant-caravan-lgbtq-couples-celebrate-mass-wedding/ar-BBPSM1Q?ocid=spartanntp And of course your whole thread premise, is one that this whole issue is all manufactured from the right...….🤣 Here’s the link made easy for you. (Using the state sponsored propaganda machine...Fox) Now entertain me and show me the stories about the caravan that’s just as attention grabbing and urgent as labeling this an INVASION? we have more troops on the border than we do In Syria. I expect around the clock coverage for such a significant deployment of our military to the border. https://www.foxnews.com/ And my premise is the national urgency of this event is manufactured. It’s overblown, this was never a major crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/trump-troops-border-caravan-stunt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/trump-troops-border-caravan-stunt Yep. Even the Army Times is reporting the possible drawdown. https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/11/20/border-deployment-was-a-racially-motivated-stunt-new-hasc-chair-says/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Yep. Even the Army Times is reporting the possible drawdown. https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/11/20/border-deployment-was-a-racially-motivated-stunt-new-hasc-chair-says/ The guy who gave the quote is a Democrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: The guy who gave the quote is a Democrat. I’m talking about the possible drawdown and that is quoted directly from Army North. Bottomline it’s not a robust mission and if they aren’t redirected elsewhere they will come home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I’m talking about the possible drawdown and that is quoted directly from Army North. Bottomline it’s not a robust mission and if they aren’t redirected elsewhere they will come home. They are were they are until dec 15. They should be moved next to California or the next big entry that these illegals are coming in from and help fix that up too. The reports that President Trump is planning to withdraw some of the troops he sent to the border two weeks ago indicate just how empty, demagogic and racially motivated this political stunt was,” said Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash. “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 hour ago, HSFBfan said: They are were they are until dec 15. They should be moved next to California or the next big entry that these illegals are coming in from and help fix that up too. The reports that President Trump is planning to withdraw some of the troops he sent to the border two weeks ago indicate just how empty, demagogic and racially motivated this political stunt was,” said Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash. “ Let these soldiers go home and enjoy their families and get prepared for real deployments. They are scurrying around to legitimize this mission when these soldiers could be training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 29 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Let these soldiers go home and enjoy their families and get prepared for real deployments. They are scurrying around to legitimize this mission when these soldiers could be training. They are training. Says it right in the article that you posted Mattis visited the border briefly last week and used the opportunity to stress that he considered the deployment as a training opportunity, that the forces would not be in a law enforcement role, and that they would modify how they communicated the mission since they were still on U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: They are training. Says it right in the article that you posted Mattis visited the border briefly last week and used the opportunity to stress that he considered the deployment as a training opportunity, that the forces would not be in a law enforcement role, and that they would modify how they communicated the mission since they were still on U. They’re building fences. Mattis is doing a good job of toeing the line and legitimizing this mission. There is no robust training going on, that’s why he called it an “opportunity” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: They’re building fences. Mattis is doing a good job of toeing the line and legitimizing this mission. There is no robust training going on, that’s why he called it an “opportunity” He is considering this training. They are doing their job of protecting the country from people that dont belong in this country. Border patrol requested this help and they got it. As you know when you join the military or be a cop firefighter nurse etc their is no guarantee you will be home for any holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 1 minute ago, HSFBfan said: He is considering this training. They are doing their job of protecting the country from people that dont belong in this country. Border patrol requested this help and they got it. As you know when you join the military or be a cop firefighter nurse etc their is no guarantee you will be home for any holiday. We all understand the holiday thing, but this is a fake crisis and a costly measure for “protection” its a training opportunity. Meaning there is a chance to make training POSSIBLE not probable nor definitive. This is code speak b/c Mattis is an articulate and loyal warrior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: We all understand the holiday thing, but this is a fake crisis and a costly measure for “protection” its a training opportunity. Meaning there is a chance to make training POSSIBLE not probable nor definitive. This is code speak b/c Mattis is an articulate and loyal warrior. It's not a fake crisis. Idk why your ok with thousands of illegals coming over our border.....please explain the liberal mindset on that. My family couldnt just come on into this country. There were procedures. Also we are not in a position to question a general in the Marine Corps or any other general in any other branch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: It's not a fake crisis. Idk why your ok with thousands of illegals coming over our border.....please explain the liberal mindset on that. My family couldnt just come on into this country. There were procedures. Also we are not in a position to question a general in the Marine Corps or any other general in any other branch I’m not denying there is a caravan but it’s nothing our border control couldn’t handle on their own when it’s all said and done. The crisis is overblown and that has been stated by many Generals out of uniform who can speak freely unlike those on AD. How many miles is the main group of “invaders” from our borders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 Just now, Horsefly said: I’m not denying there is a caravan but it’s nothing our border control couldn’t handle on their own when it’s all said and done. The crisis is overblown and that has been stated by many Generals out of uniform who can speak freely unlike those on AD. How many miles is the main group of “invaders” are from our borders? Obv they cant handle it when they requested the military help. So no they cant. So far what is the number of illegals 12 million and counting everyday. So obv border patrol as much as they are trying do not have the man power to do their job nor the resources. They are at the crossing which is why the crossing has been shut down. Also Mexico is fed up with the caravan and want them to go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Obv they cant handle it when they requested the military help. So no they cant. So far what is the number of illegals 12 million and counting everyday. So obv border patrol as much as they are trying do not have the man power to do their job nor the resources. They are at the crossing which is why the crossing has been shut down. Also Mexico is fed up with the caravan and want them to go home. “R. Gil Kerlikowske, Customs and Border Protection commissioner from 2014 to 2017, said the military cannot stop asylum seekers who show up at border crossings to seek protection, and that Border Patrol agents have had no trouble apprehending people who cross illegally. "I see it as a political stunt and a waste of military resources and waste of tax dollars," Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted November 21, 2018 Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: “R. Gil Kerlikowske, Customs and Border Protection commissioner from 2014 to 2017, said the military cannot stop asylum seekers who show up at border crossings to seek protection, and that Border Patrol agents have had no trouble apprehending people who cross illegally. "I see it as a political stunt and a waste of military resources and waste of tax dollars," Than why has 12 million illegals entered this country??? Doesnt seem like he did a good job at all as a commissioner. Seems like he did a terrible job in my opinion. This country is so soft on illegals it should disgust every american citizen in the country 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted November 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: Than why has 12 million illegals entered this country??? Doesnt seem like he did a good job at all as a commissioner. Seems like he did a terrible job in my opinion. This country is so soft on illegals it should disgust every american citizen in the country That 12 mil are not the number of people that have crossed the border illegally, most of these are those that have overstayed visas. The number of illegally crossings have decreased by about 80% the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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