Track and Field

[954gator]

16 hours ago, nptb17 said:

Norman came in 7th in his heat in the 400m.  I still think the record could fall in the 400 tomorrow.

Damn what happened?    Push too hard early?

[MA Fan]

2 hours ago, 954gator said:

Damn what happened?    Push too hard early?

Said he felt something in one of his legs and eased up:

https://olympics.nbcsports.com/2019/10/02/michael-norman-world-championships-injury/

Incredible women's 400 today.

[Texasball]

Here we go.  400m finals

come on Fred Curley

[Texasball]

Fred Kerley gets third

Gardner from Bahamas wins going away 

photo type finish for 2nd and 3rd

 

[nptb17]

2 hours ago, Texasball said:

Fred Kerley gets third

Gardner from Bahamas wins going away 

photo type finish for 2nd and 3rd

 

And we almost didn't make the finals of the 4x100 because of Rogers and some dude who I've never heard of.  I am wondering if Holloway has gone home yet.  We could put him on the 3rd leg with Lyles anchoring.

[954gator]

3 hours ago, nptb17 said:

And we almost didn't make the finals of the 4x100 because of Rogers and some dude who I've never heard of.  I am wondering if Holloway has gone home yet.  We could put him on the 3rd leg with Lyles anchoring.

that would be interesting.

[Exocet 98]

Great US Men's 4x100 relay Championship. 

[DevilDog]

On 10/4/2019 at 4:37 PM, nptb17 said:

And we almost didn't make the finals of the 4x100 because of Rogers and some dude who I've never heard of.  I am wondering if Holloway has gone home yet.  We could put him on the 3rd leg with Lyles anchoring.

@TexasballWe know who didn't make the finals.  The team that I said would be a non factor.  Jamaica ran their season best in the Heat and every team except 7th place in GERMANY in heat 2 ran faster 🤣

POS BIB ATHLETE COUNTRY MARK REACTION TIME 1 GBR GREAT BRITAIN & NI GBR 37.56 Q WL 0.143 2 BRA BRAZIL BRA 37.90 Q AR 0.139 3 USA UNITED STATES USA 38.03 Q SB 0.150 4 ITA ITALY ITA 38.11 NR 0.143 5 JAM JAMAICA JAM 38.15 SB 0.146 6 GHA GHANA GHA 38.24 SB 0.137   TUR TURKEY TUR DQ 0.138   QAT QATAR   Heat 2  🤣 POS BIB ATHLETE COUNTRY MARK ms* REACTION TIME 1 RSA SOUTH AFRICA RSA 37.65 Q AR   0.157 2 JPN JAPAN JPN 37.78 Q SB   0.140 3 CHN PR OF CHINA CHN 37.79 Q NR   0.146 4 FRA FRANCE FRA 37.88 q SB   0.141 5 NED NETHERLANDS NED 37.91 q NR .901 0.139 6 CAN CANADA CAN 37.91 SB .906 0.127 7 GER GERMANY GER 38.24 SB   0.148   NGR NIGERIA NGR DQ   0.160 QAT DNS

[DevilDog]

@Texasball  @954gator

Dudes look at that 3rd leg the kid from Japan ran.  Sani Brown got eaten up on Anchor.

 

[DevilDog]

On 8/2/2019 at 12:04 PM, nptb17 said:

So Jamaica who's been a relay threat since I've been alive all of the sudden is going to go away.  The US will get the record back but Jamaica won't go away.  If they took the top 4 from Kingston and Calabar, they smoke anything Texas can put together.

You still believe this after I said before  that Japan, GB, USA are better and that China would be the emerging team?   Bolt was the exception. They didn't perform well in the sprints either.  They are not elite just as I said they wouldn't be.  If he ran on the Anchor of this team in DOHA they would have been a threat.  They ran their seasons best and it was the 13th fastest out like 16 teams. 😂  When has that happened.  Their women will stay elite.  Though Brazil looked great I still say China will be right there just below the BIG 3 and Jamaica is not one of them.  And unless you are 12yrs old  they have not been a threat in the 4x100 historically.   Here is the Truth about the World Championships since 1983 which are ran every 2 years.  From 1983 - 2006 they only got on the Podium in 1987 with a Bronze Medal (Fact) 😂 and it wasn't till 2007 that they made another appearance and guess who came on the scene Usain Bolt they got a Silver behind the USA. So from 1983 to 2007 they medaled twice. 🤣 Not one victory.

2009, 2011, 2013, 2015 They won all 4.  Take a guess why.   In 2017 he's aging and hurt.  Bear in mind most of the time the USA was dropping Batons like a hot skillet.    

Last 2 World Championships.  Where are they 🤣  @Texasball knows this as well as I do. 

2017 London details	Great Britain (GBR) Chijindu Ujah Adam Gemili Danny Talbot Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake	United States (USA) Mike Rodgers Justin Gatlin Jaylen Bacon Christian Coleman BeeJay Lee*	Japan (JPN) Shuhei Tada Shōta Iizuka Yoshihide Kiryū Kenji Fujimitsu Asuka Cambridge*
2019 Doha details	United States (USA) Christian Coleman Justin Gatlin Mike Rodgers Noah Lyles Cravon Gillespie*	Great Britain (GBR) Adam Gemili Zharnel Hughes Richard Kilty Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake	Japan (JPN) Shuhei Tada Kirara Shiraishi Yoshihide Kiryū Abdul Hakim Sani Brown Yuki Koike*

 

 

Yes they went away all of a sudden because this went away all of a sudden 🤣

 

 

[DevilDog]

Jamaica  were a Johnny come lately to the 4x100 elite.   Since 2015 they have been no greater then USA, GB, JAPAN AND CHINA.   Bolt changed the dynamics in 2007 he's gone and they suck again. 😂

 

Championships	Gold	Silver	Bronze
1983 Helsinki details	United States (USA) Emmit King Willie Gault Calvin Smith Carl Lewis	Italy (ITA) Stefano Tilli Carlo Simionato Pierfrancesco Pavoni Pietro Mennea	Soviet Union (URS) Andrey Prokofyev Nikolay Sidorov Vladimir Muravyov Viktor Bryzhin
1987 Rome details	United States (USA) Lee McRae Lee Vernon McNeill Harvey Glance Carl Lewis	Soviet Union (URS) Aleksandr Yevgenyev Viktor Bryzhin Vladimir Muravyov Vladimir Krylov	Jamaica (JAM) John Mair Andrew Smith Clive Wright Ray Stewart
1991 Tokyo details	United States (USA) Andre Cason Leroy Burrell Dennis Mitchell Carl Lewis	France (FRA) Max Morinière Daniel Sangouma Jean-Charles Trouabal Bruno Marie-Rose	Great Britain (GBR) Tony Jarrett John Regis Darren Braithwaite Linford Christie
1993 Stuttgart details	United States (USA) Jon Drummond Andre Cason Dennis Mitchell Leroy Burrell Calvin Smith*	Great Britain (GBR) Colin Jackson Tony Jarrett John Regis Linford Christie Jason John* Darren Braithwaite*	Canada (CAN) Robert Esmie Glenroy Gilbert Bruny Surin Atlee Mahorn
1995 Gothenburg details	Canada (CAN) Donovan Bailey Robert Esmie Glenroy Gilbert Bruny Surin	Australia (AUS) Paul Henderson Tim Jackson Steve Brimacombe Damien Marsh	Italy (ITA) Giovanni Puggioni Ezio Madonia Angelo Cipolloni Sandro Floris
1997 Athens details	Canada (CAN) Robert Esmie Glenroy Gilbert Bruny Surin Donovan Bailey Carlton Chambers*	Nigeria (NGR) Osmond Ezinwa Olapade Adeniken Francis Obikwelu Davidson Ezinwa	Great Britain (GBR) Darren Braithwaite Darren Campbell Douglas Walker Julian Golding Dwain Chambers*
1999 Seville details	United States (USA) Jon Drummond Tim Montgomery Brian Lewis Maurice Greene	Great Britain (GBR) Jason Gardener Darren Campbell Marlon Devonish Dwain Chambers Allyn Condon*	Brazil (BRA) Raphael de Oliveira Claudinei da Silva Édson Ribeiro André Domingos
2001 Edmontondq1 details	South Africa (RSA) Morné Nagel Corné du Plessis Lee-Roy Newton Mathew Quinn	Trinidad and Tobago (TRI) Marc Burns Ato Boldon Jacey Harper Darrel Brown	Australia (AUS) Matt Shirvington Paul Di Bella Steve Brimacombe Adam Basil
2003 Saint-Denis details	United States (USA) John Capel Bernard Williams Darvis Patton Joshua J. Johnson	Brazil (BRA) Vicente de Lima Édson Ribeiro André Domingos Cláudio Roberto Souza	Netherlands (NED) Timothy Beck Troy Douglas Patrick van Balkom Caimin Douglas Guus Hoogmoed*
2005 Helsinki details	France (FRA) Ladji Doucouré Ronald Pognon Eddy De Lépine Lueyi Dovy Oudéré Kankarafou*	Trinidad and Tobago (TRI) Kevon Pierre Marc Burns Jacey Harper Darrel Brown	Great Britain (GBR) Jason Gardener Marlon Devonish Christian Malcolm Mark Lewis-Francis
2007 Osaka details	United States (USA) Darvis Patton Wallace Spearmon Tyson Gay Leroy Dixon Rodney Martin*	Jamaica (JAM) Marvin Anderson Usain Bolt Nesta Carter Asafa Powell Dwight Thomas* Steve Mullings*	Great Britain (GBR) Christian Malcolm Craig Pickering Marlon Devonish Mark Lewis-Francis
2009 Berlin details	Jamaica (JAM) Steve Mullings Michael Frater Usain Bolt Asafa Powell Dwight Thomas* Lerone Clarke*	Trinidad and Tobago (TRI) Darrel Brown Marc Burns Emmanuel Callender Richard Thompson Keston Bledman*	Great Britain (GBR) Simeon Williamson Tyrone Edgar Marlon Devonish Harry Aikines-Aryeetey
2011 Daegu details	Jamaica (JAM) Nesta Carter Michael Frater Yohan Blake Usain Bolt Dexter Lee*	France (FRA) Teddy Tinmar Christophe Lemaitre Yannick Lesourd Jimmy Vicaut	Saint Kitts and Nevis (SKN) Jason Rogers Kim Collins Antoine Adams Brijesh Lawrence
2013 Moscow details	Jamaica (JAM) Nesta Carter Kemar Bailey-Cole Nickel Ashmeade Usain Bolt Warren Weir* Oshane Bailey*	United States (USA) Charles Silmon Mike Rodgers Mookie Salaam Justin Gatlin	Canada (CAN) Gavin Smellie Aaron Brown Dontae Richards-Kwok Justyn Warner
2015 Beijing details	Jamaica (JAM) Nesta Carter Asafa Powell Nickel Ashmeade Usain Bolt Rasheed Dwyer*	China (CHN) Mo Youxue Xie Zhenye Su Bingtian Zhang Peimeng	Canada (CAN) Aaron Brown Andre De Grasse Brendon Rodney Justyn Warner
2017 London details	Great Britain (GBR) Chijindu Ujah Adam Gemili Danny Talbot Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake	United States (USA) Mike Rodgers Justin Gatlin Jaylen Bacon Christian Coleman BeeJay Lee*	Japan (JPN) Shuhei Tada Shōta Iizuka Yoshihide Kiryū Kenji Fujimitsu Asuka Cambridge*
2019 Doha details	United States (USA) Christian Coleman Justin Gatlin Mike Rodgers Noah Lyles Cravon Gillespie*	Great Britain (GBR) Adam Gemili Zharnel Hughes Richard Kilty Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake	Japan (JPN) Shuhei Tada Kirara Shiraishi Yoshihide Kiryū Abdul Hakim Sani Brown Yuki Koike*

[954gator]

7 hours ago, DevilDog said:

@Texasball  @954gator

Dudes look at that 3rd leg the kid from Japan ran.  Sani Brown got eaten up on Anchor.

 

Sani Brown was pretty fast for NCAA, but I’m not sure he’ll ever be “world elite”.    He might nip into the 9s, but he has some improving to do to make an impact in the next level IMO.   

[nptb17]

10 hours ago, DevilDog said:

You still believe this after I said before  that Japan, GB, USA are better and that China would be the emerging team?   Bolt was the exception. They didn't perform well in the sprints either.  They are not elite just as I said they wouldn't be.  If he ran on the Anchor of this team in DOHA they would have been a threat.  They ran their seasons best and it was the 13th fastest out like 16 teams. 😂  When has that happened.  Their women will stay elite.  Though Brazil looked great I still say China will be right there just below the BIG 3 and Jamaica is not one of them.  And unless you are 12yrs old  they have not been a threat in the 4x100 historically.   Here is the Truth about the World Championships since 1983 which are ran every 2 years.  From 1983 - 2006 they only got on the Podium in 1987 with a Bronze Medal (Fact) 😂 and it wasn't till 2007 that they made another appearance and guess who came on the scene Usain Bolt they got a Silver behind the USA. So from 1983 to 2007 they medaled twice. 🤣 Not one victory.

2009, 2011, 2013, 2015 They won all 4.  Take a guess why.   In 2017 he's aging and hurt.  Bear in mind most of the time the USA was dropping Batons like a hot skillet.    

Last 2 World Championships.  Where are they 🤣  @Texasball knows this as well as I do. 

2017 London details	Great Britain (GBR) Chijindu Ujah Adam Gemili Danny Talbot Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake	United States (USA) Mike Rodgers Justin Gatlin Jaylen Bacon Christian Coleman BeeJay Lee*	Japan (JPN) Shuhei Tada Shōta Iizuka Yoshihide Kiryū Kenji Fujimitsu Asuka Cambridge*
2019 Doha details	United States (USA) Christian Coleman Justin Gatlin Mike Rodgers Noah Lyles Cravon Gillespie*	Great Britain (GBR) Adam Gemili Zharnel Hughes Richard Kilty Nethaneel Mitchell-Blake	Japan (JPN) Shuhei Tada Kirara Shiraishi Yoshihide Kiryū Abdul Hakim Sani Brown Yuki Koike*

 

 

Yes they went away all of a sudden because this went away all of a sudden 🤣

 

 

So what about the Jamaican women?  How did they do?  I can't see anything about the Jamaican women.  How many Texans were on the US 4 x 100 that got gold?  Surely the US couldn't have got a gold medal without a Texan on the squad.

[DevilDog]

13 hours ago, nptb17 said:

So what about the Jamaican women?  How did they do?  I can't see anything about the Jamaican women.  How many Texans were on the US 4 x 100 that got gold?  Surely the US couldn't have got a gold medal without a Texan on the squad.

That's because 1/2 of the 4X400 was Texans they couldn't be on every relay 🤣 1st and 3rd leg and we never discussed Jamaican women. You professed the men would not drop off.  Nice deflection.  Go back and read the thread and find where we were discussing the Jamaican women it was about the men and I even said which teams would dominate them and those did just that.   Without Bolt they have been less than Brazil historically.

[nptb17]

5 hours ago, DevilDog said:

That's because 1/2 of the 4X400 was Texans they couldn't be on every relay 🤣 1st and 3rd leg and we never discussed Jamaican women. You professed the men would not drop off.  Nice deflection.  Go back and read the thread and find where we were discussing the Jamaican women it was about the men and I even said which teams would dominate them and those did just that.   Without Bolt they have been less than Brazil historically.

How many Texans were in the 100m finals?  What about the 200m finals?  400m finals?  You get where I'm going?  Anytime the US doesn't win the 4 x 400 relay it's an upset.  The US can put a E team out in the 4 x 400 and medal.  Jamaican man were terrible in all of the events I described.  But wait, they finished second in the 4x400.  I forget where the long jump world champion was from.  They got young guns just like the US that will probably announce there selves to the world in Eugene in 2021 and now Jamaican men are getting good at things outside of sprints.

[DevilDog]

13 hours ago, nptb17 said:

How many Texans were in the 100m finals?  What about the 200m finals?  400m finals?  You get where I'm going?  Anytime the US doesn't win the 4 x 400 relay it's an upset.  The US can put a E team out in the 4 x 400 and medal.  Jamaican man were terrible in all of the events I described.  But wait, they finished second in the 4x400.  I forget where the long jump world champion was from.  They got young guns just like the US that will probably announce there selves to the world in Eugene in 2021 and now Jamaican men are getting good at things outside of sprints.

Texans are prominent in any Track event.  Hell the fastest kid in America can be from Arkansas.  Does that mean Ark is faster than Texas.  Plenty of Texans have ran on 4X100, 4X400's dominated sprints 100, 200 & 400.  So out of 8 guys running on the premier relays the 4x100 and 4x400  2 of the 8 were from Texas but you seem to be trying to make some point about Texas Sprinters. 🤘 So one guy from Va faster than the fastest TEXAN means what.  America has over 350Mil people finding 4 fast people can be from any State even though the rest of the State can be slow as hell Like OHIO. 🤣As a matter of fact  Texas,  Georgia and Florida had at least 2 Men to win medals. (The real Sprinting States)  Where was Ohio?

Jamaica men won 3 damn medals in the whole event.   They really showed out. 😎Texans won 3 medals as well 💥

Tajay GAYLE    M    Long Jump gold

JAMAICA    M    4x400 Metres Relay    Silver 

Fedrick DACRES    M    Discus Throw    Silver

 

 

[nptb17]

9 hours ago, DevilDog said:

Texans are prominent in any Track event.  Hell the fastest kid in America can be from Arkansas.  Does that mean Ark is faster than Texas.  Plenty of Texans have ran on 4X100, 4X400's dominated sprints 100, 200 & 400.  So out of 8 guys running on the premier relays the 4x100 and 4x400  2 of the 8 were from Texas but you seem to be trying to make some point about Texas Sprinters. 🤘 So one guy from Va faster than the fastest TEXAN means what.  America has over 350Mil people finding 4 fast people can be from any State even though the rest of the State can be slow as hell Like OHIO. 🤣As a matter of fact  Texas,  Georgia and Florida had at least 2 Men to win medals. (The real Sprinting States)  Where was Ohio?

Jamaica men won 3 damn medals in the whole event.   They really showed out. 😎Texans won 3 medals as well 💥

Tajay GAYLE    M    Long Jump gold

JAMAICA    M    4x400 Metres Relay    Silver 

Fedrick DACRES    M    Discus Throw    Silver

 

 

There are 4 million people in all of Jamaica.  I don't see how that hasn't sunk in for you yet.  Jamaicans got 4 silvers in the 4x400 mens race and then 2 more in the mixed.  

[DevilDog]

12 hours ago, nptb17 said:

There are 4 million people in all of Jamaica.  I don't see how that hasn't sunk in for you yet.  Jamaicans got 4 silvers in the 4x400 mens race and then 2 more in the mixed.  

There  are only 360,000 people in Iceland.  But their big Frozen asses seem to always be among the strongest in all of those damn Car Pulling and Keg Tossing over Objects and Atlas Stone lifting called the strong man competition. 🤣 If you are dominate  at something you are good at it.  My contention is they have never been dominate as men till Bolt.