954gator Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pops said: I wasn’t making a case for DLS that game should have ended the Norcal streak — DLS was down 14-7 with about 3 minutes left and Serra kicking a FG serra is a good team that plays DLS as well as anyone (pound for pound) — their coach held DLS rushing record for 20 years and was star of first streak team (I know you know this but FYI for the crowd) ive already said many times this DLS team very talented but didn’t ever hit on all cylinders — I think top 6 fair but wouldn’t argue 7 or 8 was clearly speaking about SJB But isn't SJB's big win a close one vs DLS? BTW best win is a team that also did something. The teams they beat did something, and those teams did something. What did DLS do or any of their opponents? You're clueless. Did DLS travel cross country to play multiple OOS powers? Did SJB? I got them beating Chandler at home. What else we got? ON PAPER that is of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 minute ago, 954gator said: A stud or two? We are talking stacked teams. CP should have missed on DLS then, but no, they had superior SOS's back then. Such and such Valley were monstars nobody wanted to play. Please. University school (AKA easy opponent) DE Brian Burns NFL RB Jordan Scarlett NFL DB Quincy Wilson NFL WR Sam Bruce Miami QB Sean WHite Auburn DE Richard Yeargin III Clemson CB Rashard Causey UCF DL Brandon Boyce Duke CB Marco Wilson UF RB Lajuan Hunt Utah st LB Brandon Russell Rutgers LB Bradley Clement FAU Oline was big too and also had some guys go on to play. Give me the boynton roster — I know I niversitu was a talented team (that didn’t beat anyone) CP shits on DLS for the local competition too relative to your perception of CP and CA they has DLS 9th in the state at start of 2012 playoffs they won the comp poll that year and their 4th straight Open dls gets juiced when they play socal champ and/ or good OOS team just like everyone else — dls’s advantage that frustrates the guru and you is they have played the best team in socal for their last game the last 14 years — that’s the sort of built in poll advantage someone getting s big win in September enjoys — hell, JC won most of the human pills that year by beating Plant which wasn’t near FL’s top 10 but somewhat highly regarded in September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, 954gator said: DLS state champ gets blown out by STA in 2011, then hides against quality OOS until they are stacked in 2015. LOSES. Yet we are supposed to believe that they were great in those years they hid OOS? In 2013 they were busy scheduling Clayton Valley, Serra, St, Mary's, Del Oro, Servite and Logan. The usual collection of slapdicks that are sold as world-beaters. In the meantime, BTW scheduled Norcross, Bishop Gorman and Central all away from home and won all of them by double figures. The Central game was a national #1 vs #2 . Pop thinks this is a minor point because the game was played in September. You know it's called the Pop rule: If you don't play your best opponent in the last game then it doesn't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Pops said: a stud or two doesn’t make a great team — joe mixon Gained 4 yards on DLS as a junior in a 70-7 loss and he wasn’t even their best offensive skills guy — that was a senior WR that I think went to UW but forgot his name — he returned the kick off at 70-0 for a TD — I remember because he was towing the goal line and had to eelreach above his head to even make it returnable — 2 best players on the field and they get crushed worse than league teams that usually have more capable players on field Here we go. Bringing up one good player on a sorry ass NorCal team to make some kind of dumb point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, Pops said: CP misses some for sure, but it’s usually because they didn’t play anyone to show themselves better (ie JC ‘12) But this is not the case for BTW. They beat three top 100 teams by double digits. CP misses on teams that don't have a lot of overrated filler opponents like DLS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, 954gator said: No it wasn't lol. Well, upon your post, I can certainly acknowledge a case for IMG bit SJB went from nowhere to MNC thru Jason negro and a massive talent infusion which created a socal arms race which is fueling much of the emerging national academy Tier (basically USAT’s top 7 — not north shore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Pops said: I wasn’t making a case for DLS Pops *not* making the case for DLS 3 hours ago, Pops said: Add allen, de Soto, and DLS and those 6 were all in someone’s top 5 and no one else was 2 hours ago, Pops said: SJB beat the most talented DLS team that had ever been beaten after navigating the toughest playoffs in country 2 hours ago, Pops said: the 2013 DLS team was MUCH bigger than 2011 and had the 2nd most D1s of any DLS team (behind only 2003) — I think they would have beat SJB if they had come together half as well as most DLS teams but they had a lot of egos and didn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Pops said: that game should have ended the Norcal streak — DLS was down 14-7 with about 3 minutes left and Serra kicking a FG Yeah, and Serra is garbage. Yet somehow you're trying to claim that DLS would've beaten "clearly the best team" that year if not for ego issues? None of this computes. Either De La Salle was overrated because they almost lost to Serra or SJB was overrated for almost losing to *that* De La Salle team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, Pops said: Give me the boynton roster — I know I niversitu was a talented team (that didn’t beat anyone) Honestly don't know as much about them. I know they had Lamar Jackson and a lot of talented kids and bunch were D1. Here's the little bit of film I can find that shows the type of team they were. I'm not saying they were amazing, but you act like because such and such Valley team was ranked as a good opponent, that it's the reality, It's really not. I admittedly know a lot more of University because it's a lot closer so easier to look up all the kids. Not even going to try for Boynton. Shoot you haven't given me ONE roster lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, Pops said: serra is a good team that plays DLS as well as anyone (pound for pound) — their coach held DLS rushing record for 20 years and was star of first streak team (I know you know this but FYI for the crowd) No, they're not. They lost to #1312 St. Francis (and gave up 41 points) and nearly lost to #2689 St. Ignatius. Yeah, say hi to Pat "7-4" Walsh if you see him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, 954gator said: No it wasn't lol. Solipsim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, 954gator said: But isn't SJB's big win a close one vs DLS? Ding, ding, ding. Pops: SJB was clearly the best team. Also Pops: But DLS would've beaten them if not for ego issues. Pops, again: DLS should've lost to Serra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Did I wake up to the year 2013? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 minute ago, RedZone said: Did I wake up to the year 2013? Yup! Good times eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, 954gator said: What did DLS do or any of their opponents? Only one team that DLS beat had a top 225 win. That was 6-loss Servite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Guru said: Only one team that DLS beat had a top 225 win. That was 6-loss Servite. Funny because he's all about University not beating anyone lol. Cocoa's trash too apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Shoot this Homestead team has a bunch of NFL players on it (I guess a bunch moved to BTW for 2014) Devante Davis Texas (Seahawks), Antonio Callaway (Browns), Ermon Lane cut from the Saints (FSU). Even the QB was a future BTW player in 2014 lol. Nobody though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, 954gator said: Shoot this Homestead team has a bunch of NFL players on it (I guess a bunch moved to BTW for 2014) Devante Davis Texas (Seahawks), Antonio Callaway (Browns), Ermon Lane cut from the Saints (FSU). Even the QB was a future BTW player in 2014 lol. Nobody though. That 2014 BTW was one of the most slept on teams in the polls. Went undefeated and all, but was still looked over for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 19 hours ago, 954gator said: But isn't SJB's big win a close one vs DLS? BTW best win is a team that also did something. The teams they beat did something, and those teams did something. What did DLS do or any of their opponents? You're clueless. Did DLS travel cross country to play multiple OOS powers? Did SJB? I got them beating Chandler at home. What else we got? ON PAPER that is of course. You are babbling you want to impeach SJB because MC was a more worthy opponent (they weren’t) when both are top 10? while ignoring fact that SJB played 8 more competent opponents and then call me clueless my advice: increase your meds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 20 hours ago, 954gator said: How did I miss this. You are clueless. You think because some of Cali's best are playing great schedules these last few years that that is what is was like in 2013?? Oh man. FL has split their dozen best team into a half dozen different paths/ brackets for decades this is cause of biggest SOS deficit CA’s top dozen teams all in one bracket CA emphasizes playing well in December — FL emphasizes having the most transfers in August Different games and approaches but indicative of why CA has way more NFL coaches 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 20 hours ago, 954gator said: DLS state champ gets blown out by STA in 2011, then hides against quality OOS until they are stacked in 2015. LOSES. Yet we are supposed to believe that they were great in those years they hid OOS? Don't get me wrong they have stepped up their game in recent years, but don't make me laugh. STA the most under-achieving team in America Nobody does less with more! dont know why you’re even speaking about DLS — not the subject and your comments self inflict you with a perception of lacking erudition 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 20 hours ago, The Guru said: In 2013 they were busy scheduling Clayton Valley, Serra, St, Mary's, Del Oro, Servite and Logan. The usual collection of slapdicks that are sold as world-beaters. In the meantime, BTW scheduled Norcross, Bishop Gorman and Central all away from home and won all of them by double figures. The Central game was a national #1 vs #2 . Pop thinks this is a minor point because the game was played in September. You know it's called the Pop rule: If you don't play your best opponent in the last game then it doesn't count. I was only ever talking about SJB vs BTW and you two STA dudes are jerking yourself off about DLS i get that it’s the greatest moment in STA football, but stay on point if you want to talk about DLS, explain to me how this forum favors them in August despite a 30-2 D1 disadvantage (or something like 20-0 for P5 programs)? The perceived incompetence of the STA staff is beyond what I’d thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 20 hours ago, The Guru said: Here we go. Bringing up one good player on a sorry ass NorCal team to make some kind of dumb point. The point was that one good player doesn’t make a team (nor two) man, you are dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAllThewaY Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pops said: STA the most under-achieving team in America Nobody does less with more! dont know why you’re even speaking about DLS — not the subject and your comments self inflict you with a perception of lacking erudition AUGUST 23 2019 CONCORD CA SEE YOU THERE!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, Pops said: You are babbling No, he's accurately describing the incoherence of your claims. So SJBs big victory, their coup de grace, was a 6-point win over DLS but you think that DLS should've lost to crappy Serra. Somehow, despite this, you think SJB was clearly the best team and that DLS was clearly in the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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