westbankeagle Posted August 26, 2019 Report Share Posted August 26, 2019 If the top national program each year, for funzies, stayed together another 4-5 years, could that team win an FCS conference, or maybe even a G5 conference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, westbankeagle said: If the top national program each year, for funzies, stayed together another 4-5 years, could that team win an FCS conference, or maybe even a G5 conference? Nope. /Thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 I disagree. I think they could definitely compete to win at least the HBCU conferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, westbankeagle said: I disagree. I think they could definitely compete to win at least the HBCU conferences. Maybe the HBCU conferences yeah. If they were given college level facilities & staffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 I think this is a great question just a few years ago answer was hell no now, I’m not so sure Let me put it this way, I think there are big-time programs — probably even most, that would be happy to take ALL kids from one of these academy teams instead of the measly 3* guys most P5 teams fill their roster with i think it’s very possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 These academy teams like Mater Dei, SJB, SFA, SJC, IMG... Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: These academy teams like Mater Dei, SJB, SFA, SJC, IMG... Sure. That's what I mean. Top national HS team. How good would that team be 5 years later? Probably could also beat Ivy league too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 No way in hell. What do the top programs have? About 2 dozen guys at most with FBS offers? They might have a better athletes at some positions but are completely fucked with a lack of depth. If they have a few injuries, they'd be fucked even harder. Remember they're facing a team with 3-4 times the guys on scholarship. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, bigrobstercraws said: No way in hell. What do the top programs have? About 2 dozen guys at most with FBS offers? They might have a better athletes at some positions but are completely fucked with a lack of depth. If they have a few injuries, they'd be fucked even harder. Remember they're facing a team with 3-4 times the guys on scholarship. There are starters on some FBS teams that didn't even have recruiting profiles. Not everyone on an FBS team was an amazing high school athlete. Some were just good role players and every high school program that can compete for an MNC has those kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, westbankeagle said: There are starters on some FBS teams that didn't even have recruiting profiles. Not everyone on an FBS team was an amazing high school athlete. Some were just good role players and every high school program that can compete for an MNC has those kids. Correct on some. That's the exception to the rule. As far as the rest, they're still amazing HS athletes. Even if they're not the top dog. You have to be a top HS athlete to just get a D1 offer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, bigrobstercraws said: Correct on some. That's the exception to the rule. As far as the rest, they're still amazing HS athletes. Even if they're not the top dog. You have to be a top HS athlete to just get a D1 offer. One of the 5 teams above might not compete at an FBS level... But if they were upgraded to college level facilities & staffs... They could wipe the floor with some of these lower level teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, bigrobstercraws said: Correct on some. That's the exception to the rule. As far as the rest, they're still amazing HS athletes. Even if they're not the top dog. You have to be a top HS athlete to just get a D1 offer. But we're also talking about those teams being able to keep all their 4 and 5 star kids too versus some of those small schools who think getting a 3 star is a major recruiting coup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 If Clemson or Alabama stayed together for 4 or 5 years could they beat the NOLA Saints or New England Patriots? Oh Hell no. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15yds4gibberish Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, bigrobstercraws said: No way in hell. What do the top programs have? About 2 dozen guys at most with FBS offers? They might have a better athletes at some positions but are completely fucked with a lack of depth. If they have a few injuries, they'd be fucked even harder. Remember they're facing a team with 3-4 times the guys on scholarship. What if we modify the question a bit to make it more of an apples to apples comparison. Colleges have 4-5 years of recruits on their rosters. What if a team was comprised for 4-5 years of MD players, or IMG players? How high could that college team go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 If we're talking FCS, looking at last years rankings, the majority of teams signed less than 10 3 star recruits and no 4-5 star recruits. Some of these top programs have 10 kids who start who will be 4-5 star recruits at some point in their high school career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 According to 247, Mater Dei has had 16 4-5 star recruits in the past 4 years plus this year and literally dozens of 3 star kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 No way in hell, not even close. So using the past few years, Tate Martell (who was the QB for a few #1 teams in America) is the QB for this supposed team. 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Just now, westbankeagle said: According to 247, Mater Dei has had 16 4-5 star recruits in the past 4 years plus this year and literally dozens of 3 star kids. And the reality is maybe 1/3 will actually make significant contributions to college programs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Cossacks said: And the reality is maybe 1/3 will actually make significant contributions to college programs. I think you are thinking P5 which is not the point of this thread. Most FCS schools have never had a 4 star recruit in their history, much less 16 in a 5 year span. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, westbankeagle said: I think you are thinking P5 which is not the point of this thread. Most FCS schools have never had a 4 star recruit in their history, much less 16 in a 5 year span. Still seems like a big jump and still don’t see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted August 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Well it's meant to be hypothetical, but I think since from my original post I mentioned FCS or G5, I think these programs could definitely pick off the bottom tier programs and win at least 3 different conferences and probably finish 500 in at least half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 According to some of the polls Mater Dei is the #1 team in the nation. Could be, might not be, who knows. Point is I'm not sure Mater Dei could beat North Shore High School from Houston let alone start whooping FCS college teams in 4 years. I have North Shore #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Pops said: I think this is a great question just a few years ago answer was hell no now, I’m not so sure Let me put it this way, I think there are big-time programs — probably even most, that would be happy to take ALL kids from one of these academy teams instead of the measly 3* guys most P5 teams fill their roster with i think it’s very possible Agree. Schools like IMG could possiably go on to win a championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Between 2011 and 2014 STA produced 9 NFL players... I'm sure they could compete as a team in College at a high level in 2016, that would be a 5 year field to choose from. Add 2010 in and you push it up to 12 NFL players from STA. Of course that would mean that a few would have to be held back a yaer in HS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHSFAN33 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 No chance. Even the most recruited up transfer all star teams don’t have the depth of talent to field a high level FBS team. Think rationally about the logistics and numbers involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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